HoF requires ratings average of 4.0 or 4.5?
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Blood_Beret,
Posted on: 2009-04-14 05:02 in Mission Architect
I can't point you to a quote, but I know the answer by experiment. "The Footsteps Initiative" was HoF and 5 stars when I saw it yesterday morning. A few minutes later, it was 4 stars, and not. An hour later, it was 5 stars, and was. Since then it hasn't been. The only way that makes sense, given that it already had 999+ ratings, was if the threshold is 4.5, and it was wobbling just barely back and forth across the round-off point.
I have a 999+ arc that has 4 stars(not sure if it is 3.5-4.5) but it is not HoF.
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I'm not sure I follow. Why could it not be wobbling between 4.0 and 4.1?
Dec out.
The visual display rounds itself to the nearest star amount. If it's 4.4, it's 4 stars displayed. If it's 4.6, it's 5 stars displayed. Since the display was wobbling, that means it was wobbling around 4.5, not around 4.0.
4.5 is not a feasible rating due to various factors I pointed out in the other thread. 4.0 I could see; it's more practical under real-world voting conditions and still ensures a pretty damn good arc.
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Is there somewhere where we can actually see the .x of an arc? I KNOW how regular math rounding works, but there are people who are asserting both that it's 4.1 and 4.5. Some people don't use the standard method of "rounding". The question here is, where is the official word on this? Sorry if you've already answered this, Two, I'm not disputing your theory or your math. I, like Cap'n Tigger up there, am just looking for source info.
Dec out.
Unfortunately no, there's no display of the exact rating -- but if it's visually **** and then ***** and back again, that logically means that it's average is wobbling between 4 and 5 when rounded, IE 4.4 and 4.6. If it was wobbling around 4.0 it'd be a solid four displayed stars without ever jumping as high as five.
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Logically, yes. But I've seen so many people stating so surely that the devs were using 4.1 that I want some verification. Are you positive that that's the way the display works or are you assuming? Again, not questioning you, just wanting to be sure since information is mixed (nothing new, of course...)
Maybe I've been living with lawyers too many years. 
Dec out.
It definitely was >4.0 on Test. But that was Test.
Empirical evidence seems to suggest 4.5 on Live.
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Hmmmm...then changed but not mentioned? That seems odd. At least I know now where the two figures are coming from. Thanks.
Dec out.
And it definitely rounds itself to the enarest star amount?
Pff, I wish we could get an official explanation of how the HoF is supposed to work 
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And it definitely rounds itself to the enarest star amount?
Pff, I wish we could get an official explanation of how the HoF is supposed to work
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Seconded. A lot of the confusion and debate would be instantly cleared up if a dev was to just lay it out and say "Here's how it works." Then we could at least all be talking about the same thing and could form an informed opinion.
All we can go by is the evidence from the one HOF arc that's up there as it wobbles on and off the HOF, between 4 and 5 stars.
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Based on addmitedly very old programming knowledge, it used to be much simpler to trunctuate a decimal than to actually round it accurately for display purposes.
So even based on the number switching from 4 to 5 and back it could still either be 4.1 or 4.5 as the threshold.
I lean toward 4.5 myself, cause the workaround was rather simple back then and should be no harder today.
Yeah, but if we were truncating the float, we'd NEVER see a 5 star rating. It's be impossible; every single vote an arc ever got would have to be a 5, because even a 4.99999 would display as 4 stars. And we do have confirmation of stories with 5's, including this one when it managed to keep its HOF, that are certainly not unanimously voted on.
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Good point. I stand corrected (Well, sit, but you get the point.)
Wait, an arc can lose HOF status due to voting? What happens to the player's publishing slots then? What if they filled their three normal ones as soon as the fourth hit HOF? O_O
N/M, I just went and read the other thread.
Though I swear the other thread had in it posts that were in this thread.
I'm pretty confused and can only assume that i've been trying too hard to block out some people's insipid whining. ^_^
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There's been some debate around about the ratings requirements for HoF. My search fu is weak, and I can't find a clear answer as to how many ratings are needed and what they are supposed to be.
Can anyone point me to the last direct quote from a dev on the subject?
Eco.
MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)