Story arc has been banned?


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A single mission MA mission that i created was banned. With ZERO explanation of why.

I really would like to know why this was banned. I have read the EULA and as the end user do not see how anything that was in the mission that i created and submitted to be published would violate the agreement.

There were no emails (in game), not private messages, simply a message at the mission architect control board stating that my mission had been banned by a GM. No explanation was given for why it was banned. This is all that I want. Why? Did i cross some mission architect lines? What parameters were breached that resulted in the conclusion that my mission shall be banned?

I enjoy the fact that I can create my own story arcs that other player characters can utilize. I am truely puzzled at this time.


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A single mission MA mission that i created was banned. With ZERO explanation of why.

I really would like to know why this was banned. I have read the EULA and as the end user do not see how anything that was in the mission that i created and submitted to be published would violate the agreement.

There were no emails (in game), not private messages, simply a message at the mission architect control board stating that my mission had been banned by a GM. No explanation was given for why it was banned. This is all that I want. Why? Did i cross some mission architect lines? What parameters were breached that resulted in the conclusion that my mission shall be banned?

I enjoy the fact that I can create my own story arcs that other player characters can utilize. I am truely puzzled at this time.

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How about you provide us with some details? You're complaining about "zero explanation" here, and yet you're not explaining what your arc was.

I'll bet a halfway complete description will reveal the problem.


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Since you aren't being forthcoming wiht what th arc was about it is impossible to speculate.

Unless of course you know why and that is why you aren't saying.


 

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I believe that if enough people report a mission for content, it gets removed automatically (with a review later). It could also be a bug.

The only other thing I could think of is perhaps you used a term which isn't a slur to you, but it is to someone else. Kind of like how saying Bloody in the U.K. is like dropping an F-bomb here.


 

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I'm actually surprised Bloody isn't in the word filter then. Practically everything else is.


 

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Six minutes for two replies. Nice!

I shall give all of the details of the arc. (as i did not want this message to seem liek an advertisement for the mission itself, i kept details vague)

-Single mission story arc
-map type outdoors (city, one of the maps that you must unlock with tickets)

Custom enemy group (the group's name was "Easy Kills" if you must know though in numbers they would not be)

Mission objective: Kill the bosses (the bosses to kill were 5 Nemisis Faction and two of the custom enemy group (so seven bosses to kill to complete the mission))

I will not give the mission #

the message said that a GM banned the mission. I want to know why!


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I believe that if enough people report a mission for content, it gets removed automatically (with a review later). It could also be a bug.

The only other thing I could think of is perhaps you used a term which isn't a slur to you, but it is to someone else. Kind of like how saying Bloody in the U.K. is like dropping an F-bomb here.

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You are correct; thou i believe that i kept the dialog clean.

I will "fine tooth comb" the dialog right now to make certain that i didnt step on any toes.

With luck i used "colorful metaphors" where they did not belong


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If 6 minutes impresses you then prepare to be amazed I guess. I'm reading forums now. I kee up on Topics I post in.


You still haven't given us enough information. Advertise away. If it has been banned we can't play it in any event.


 

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Truth be told, i was shocked that anyone was reading the forums at this time.

I was hoping that the GM that banned the mission would be able to shed some light on why the mission was locked.

My only recourse is to resubmit the mission to be published (after i make bloody sure that i do not curse in the text of the mission!)


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Yup. Definitely need more information to see if it could have been content.

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I will "fine tooth comb" the dialog right now to make certain that i didnt step on any toes.

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Whenever you worry about making people mad, think of this. No matter what you do, there are over 6 billion people in the world; and you're probably doing something right now that would get at least one of them angry.

Besides, good writing is supposed to do that.


 

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Six minutes for two replies. Nice!

I shall give all of the details of the arc. (as i did not want this message to seem liek an advertisement for the mission itself, i kept details vague)

-Single mission story arc
-map type outdoors (city, one of the maps that you must unlock with tickets)

Custom enemy group (the group's name was "Easy Kills" if you must know though in numbers they would not be)

Mission objective: Kill the bosses (the bosses to kill were 5 Nemisis Faction and two of the custom enemy group (so seven bosses to kill to complete the mission))

I will not give the mission #

the message said that a GM banned the mission. I want to know why!

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Based on your description, it was probably banned because a GM believed it was a farm map, which is not an allowed use of the Architect. If you believe your mission was not a farm map, submit a petition asking (politely) for an explanation of the decision. It will probably be immediately escalated to a senior GM, who can explain the issue and work with you to resolve it.

The ban decision is likely reversible if you're willing to work with them and be very clear about your intent in creating the mission, provided that your intent is within the bounds of what they consider 'acceptable use'.


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Yup. Definitely need more information to see if it could have been content.

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I will "fine tooth comb" the dialog right now to make certain that i didnt step on any toes.

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Whenever you worry about making people mad, think of this. No matter what you do, there are over 6 billion people in the world; and you're probably doing something right now that would get at least one of them angry.

Besides, good writing is supposed to do that.

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For example. I know that right this very instant. My inhaling really ticks off Osama Bin Laden.


 

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Yup. Definitely need more information to see if it could have been content.

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I will "fine tooth comb" the dialog right now to make certain that i didnt step on any toes.

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Whenever you worry about making people mad, think of this. No matter what you do, there are over 6 billion people in the world; and you're probably doing something right now that would get at least one of them angry.

Besides, good writing is supposed to do that.

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I will not begin to argue with your wisdom! Though my writing (as far as this mission went) was pretty inert.

Here are the details:

Story title:

Demon farm Map with Fake Nemisis

Story description:

Do you want to kill demons and fake Nemisis? Then you are in the right place!

Story contact:

Commander Moonseed (custom.. he's a bright Nova)

Enemy group:

Custom: Easy Kills

Map type:

Unique maps

Outdoors

City map 02

Mission introduction dialog:


"So, i hear that you want to kill a bunch of things to get tickets. Well, you are in luck. This is the demon farm map (same as the family farm). It is loaded up with custom made demons (not the CoT ones) and a few Fake nemisis for fun. You must defeat the five fakies and two custom demon bosses to complete the mission. If all goes well, these demons will crumble in front of you faster than that duck can scream out that certain insurance company name!"

Mission send off dialog:

Enjoy the easy kills!

Compass active task text:

Kill the five fakies and the two Easy kill bosses

Still busy dialog:

You should go into the mission now.

Return success dialog:

Great work. Thank you for enjoying the misison that i have created! I hope that you will enjoy the mission again and again! Take care!

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what other details would you like?


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I assume people reported it for being a farming mission. Weather or not that is against the rules I don't know.

What power sets did you give these "easy kills"


 

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Story title:

Demon farm Map


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There's your answer right there...


 

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Six minutes for two replies. Nice!

I shall give all of the details of the arc. (as i did not want this message to seem liek an advertisement for the mission itself, i kept details vague)

-Single mission story arc
-map type outdoors (city, one of the maps that you must unlock with tickets)

Custom enemy group (the group's name was "Easy Kills" if you must know though in numbers they would not be)

Mission objective: Kill the bosses (the bosses to kill were 5 Nemisis Faction and two of the custom enemy group (so seven bosses to kill to complete the mission))

I will not give the mission #

the message said that a GM banned the mission. I want to know why!

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Based on your description, it was probably banned because a GM believed it was a farm map, which is not an allowed use of the Architect. If you believe your mission was not a farm map, submit a petition asking (politely) for an explanation of the decision. It will probably be immediately escalated to a senior GM, who can explain the issue and work with you to resolve it.

The ban decision is likely reversible if you're willing to work with them and be very clear about your intent in creating the mission, provided that your intent is within the bounds of what they consider 'acceptable use'.

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By definition, a "Farm map" is a mission or map that can be repeated for a purpose (be it power leveling, gaining influence/infamy, gaining prestige, gaining salvage /recipe drops). Every single MA story arc is a farm mission (if they follow this definition)


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I have already changed the name of the mission and have re submitted it for publish minus the word "farm"


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Which isn't against the rules.

This banning with no oversight is kinda chilling. People are worried about 1 star bandits. What if a group goes around and hits the report button x number of times? on an arc that has been getting 4 and 5 stars up to that point? Banned no oversight. Better luck in your repost?

Yeah this guys arc doesn't sound especially appealing to me. I don't like farming. some do. It's their thing. I find it hard to think that a alot of people entered his mission on the first day and reported this as explicit content. I also find it hard to believe a GM would manually close it down without sending and EMail (in game or out ofgame) Explaining why and possibly providing a warning about not doing X again.


 

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The power sets for the "easy kill" group were scrapper (fire melee (lowest setting) then altered it for the secondary settings (for minions it was scrapper claws (weak), for Lt's blaster (fire i think) and for bosses Scrapper claws but tougher than the minions

I think that the word "farm" got the mission banned.. time shall tell


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Hell make it an arc. Based on what you just told me change the name to Demon world.

Have a short sentence saying Nemesis has a new plot unleashing demons on the world and you have to stop him. Same objectives. maybe rename the enemies to simply "Demon"

Suddenly you have the same exact farming mission. This is absurd. Either way this is NOT explicit content. There is no rule anywhere on these damn boards that says farming missions are not allowed. It is impossible to prevent farming. People are going to figure out how many tickets on average they get from certain arcs. Are those arcs going to be randomly banned without explanation as well just because people are "farming" them?


 

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Which isn't against the rules.

This banning with no oversight is kinda chilling. People are worried about 1 star bandits. What if a group goes around and hits the report button x number of times? on an arc that has been getting 4 and 5 stars up to that point? Banned no oversight. Better luck in your repost?

Yeah this guys arc doesn't sound especially appealing to me. I don't like farming. some do. It's their thing. I find it hard to think that a alot of people entered his mission on the first day and reported this as explicit content. I also find it hard to believe a GM would manually close it down without sending and EMail (in game or out ofgame) Explaining why and possibly providing a warning about not doing X again.

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This is what is puzzling me. If i did something wrong, let me know so i won't do it again! As I said, I have resubmitted the mission with a changed non-farm name (I personally need the prestige, my SG has only four people in it.. super computers take a while to earn!!) perhaps that was the hold up.

Thank you everyone for your insight


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Story title:

Demon farm Map


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There's your answer right there...

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More than likely this is it. They made the Mission Architect with the hopes that people would make content, be creative and actually play the game; rather that turn it into another farmers tool.


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I know they can be picky about copyright stuff. The thing is EVERY game (WOW, CoH etc) does a certain amount of satire, tip of the hat, call it what you will to games, stories that have come before. In WOW I did an entire chain quest dealing with Link's Sword. Gee. I wonder who this "Link" is? (LOL...can you say "Zelda"?). And we've all met Peter Kent and Lois Watson and heard their funny dialogue about "I was expecting someone else" when you show up.

But one person's toMAYto is another's toMAto, so....


 

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Yep I just saw Peter Parkley hanging around Atlas the other day. He was looking for Lois Lankly.But they both left when Dr. Gloom showed up