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I have fought one....its not like your uber peacebringer.....i will admit that toon suprised me.


 

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Btw, PB has never affected boost range. Figured everybody knew that, but apparently not.


 

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I think powerboost effects the heal in hoarfrost, I will test tonight.


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It shouldn't, because Hoarfrost also has +res(toxic) and heal or defense powers that also have +res shouldn't be flagged to be affected by buffs (because if they were, the amount of +res you would get would be affected by your current damage bonus). Early in the I13 beta, World of Pain wasn't tagged to be unaffected by buffs, so the caster could chew a bunch of reds before casting it and greatly increase the amount of +res it granted.


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I think powerboost effects the heal in hoarfrost, I will test tonight.

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Already tested it. It doesn't.


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You can fix teh range with some hamis, probably not as good as having boost range running perma but it gets you through. If you are sonic, hold procs for scream and shriek are the bomb. BOTH Em and MM are very deadly when used right, don't throw away MM just because of a range issue.

Your shout can act as you big hitter instead of TF too, just work their res down a bit. I have a Fire/MM and a Sonic/EM, If I could be bothered I would probably roll a Sonic/MM... Although saying this I would probably take MM only with Sonic... It's fun having a big hitter to finish things.

edit: lol powerboost


 

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Yup yup. I'm thinking about dropping total focus and just putting some hecatombs and a KB io in powerthrust.


 

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Thing about Sonic/EM is Total Focus does a lot of damage by itself. Now factor in stacked -res and Defiance bonus from Shout, Scream, and Shriek (Screech too, if you have it) and Total Focus will really hurt. Ajax mentioned he'd hit Total Focus for over 1000 damage on his Rad/Sonic back before I13 - I know things are different now and the numbers will be less but that's an idea of the kind of havoc resistance debuffs can cause.


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if you want overkill yeah, shout works just fine as the big hitter... more damage is just showing off :P personally i'd prefer scare over that extra damage... But yeah I do admit you can pull some crazy numbers like that... I thought it was his cold/sonic though?


 

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overkill on damage? is that even possible on a blaster?


 

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overkill on damage? is that even possible on a blaster?

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ya what bitter said.


 

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From what I understand debuff classes are the way to go in i14 how ever I've not tested this myself.


 

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:S whats happening to blasters dmg? I thought they were safe this issue... well apart from psi gettin the tk one


 

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Thanks for the replies. I'm preparing myself for plenty of gasps perhaps....but I've decided to go against my usual ways. I tend to crunch numbers and compliment primary's to secondaries in the best possible ways etc. I don't have what it takes to stay on the level train in this game (which now belongs mostly to my villainous gf) So I build for PvP fun at 30. It looks as if the reasons for pushing EM over others is the Boost options. The more important, it seems, being post 30. And BP having no real adequate uses. Especially pre-30. So I have decided to go.......Electric (winces). NOT for -end mind you.

If there is one thing I hate most, personaly, it's being AS'd with no chance in heck of dishing it back out before I drop to my knees. I always look for some sort of "AS defense" in my builds. Wether I drop or not, I'd much rather see it coming. So LF edged out Energy for me in the end. I've always hoped a build would end up having Electric as a possibility to me. Electric is on par with Energy in dmg. More when I consider how much I would use Fence over Thrust. Endurance is worse with Electric and no conservation. And both have the high dmg melee.

My question now is a choice between 2; does Thunder Clap have its place in PvP at the moment? I would most likely only slot for Acc. Or Thunder Strike? Though it too would only be Acc enhanced. An AoE kb/disorient sounds better than a single target kb (Thrust). Of the 2 Im looking for the defensive capabilities. TS's dmg would be a bonus. But would take Clap if it proves to be the better defensive option.

Having fun with the character so far. So I will have to preach the "play what you enjoy the most" line. At least for now.....till I hit 30 and get planted like a carrot.


 

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Elec was one of the good secondaries in I12. It's not so much now. Better than others, sure. But don't rely on Lightning Field as your anti-Stalker defense because as soon as you get mezzed (and you will get mezzed) it'll detoggle. Also Thunder Strike does half the damage of Total Focus for the same end cost, recharge, and animation (because it's an AoE) and doesn't even guarantee a mez.


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Not looking to TS or Clap for dmg. Just a defensive/filler option. Whichever of the 2 works best. Also, TF is post 30. As far as Lightning Field goes; I rarely get mezzed unless my attacker is a mezzer. Never have I been mezzed before a trigger happy AS'r pops. So not terribly worried about that scenario. No doubt I will be mezzed THEN AS'd, but I'm looking to avoid some AS's while out of combat or my attacker IS an AS'r.


 

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Go /em over /elec. As everyone has stressed: boost range is amazing. It goes alot deeper than that though.

It used to be that the actual mele attacks in the /em and /elec set were on par with eachother (since not many good blasters bothered with TF's long animation time). Total Focus is actually worth taking in i13/14 pvp though (yes, take total focus over bone smasher; the damage is very potent now).

With /em you also get power thrust, which is extraordinary for such a fast animating level 1 power. Slotted with kinetic crash, you not only get a mag 45.5 KB attack, but you get some great set bonuses too. By the way: mag 45.5 will KB pretty much anything short of a few tanks/brutes/scrappers (stone tanks, invulns, regens, ice tanks, and will powers). Using power thrust is alot more effective than using electric fence, in that, with power thrust, you disrupt the target's ability to attack you; with electric fence you only make the target stand still for a second or two (if that).


 

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what noub take /elec


 

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Once again, folks.....this will be a lvl 30 build. TF and BR are NOT an option.

I'm far from a noob. Just so happens I was in original beta. In my time i have given near everything a chance. This includes nrg. I don't, however, do much with Blasters. I enjoy Thrust as much as the next /nrg. Although Im looking for some insight on Thunder Strike and Clap as possible comparable alternatives. "Most" characters I end up toe-to-toe with are going to have KB protections of sorts anyhow. Laying a short, but far more damaging, hold is suffice to me. And as I have mentioned, I DO enjoy a chance at uncovering stalks ie Lightning Field.


 

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Stalks dont stand around their targets within the 10 feet range of Lightning Field, they only get close for the kill.


 

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Field has a 20ft range and popping them before they get in for the kill is kinda the idea/hope


 

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Trust me: lightning field is a far from effective way to de-stealth a stalker. If you go /elec, I'd advise taking havoc punch over thunderstrike; maybe take charged brawl too because of the fast activation (I'm not sure how much damage charged brawl does anymore though).

Power thrust is very useful against any stalker who isn't running a t9 (in level 30 pvp there are no t9s). It is also usefull against many brute builds. If you go /em, take bone smasher since you wont have access to total focus.


 

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LF isn't gonna help you with any half competent stalker. Just move around...problem solved.


 

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Also I just remembered a reason that Lightning Field is about 10 times more pointless. All stalkers have SOFTCAPPED AoE defense from Hide.

(Hide gives so much aoe defense so you can remain hidden if a nearby teamate is hit with an AoE.)