Mutent Kind

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Dude, please use a spellchecker.

lol harkonen but ya it is mutant not mutent but it is a minor mistake

Aww, bless him.

Courtesy costs nothing, however some people instead go for snarkyness instead.

It would of been preferable, had people given you constructive criticism rather than just sarcastic superiority.

Though your apparent attitude isn't much better.

I don't agree with the way FFM worded his post, but:

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You actually started your reply with "Dude", but have the nerve to ask me to use a spellchecker. Interesting.

The word Dude dates back to 1876, and was spelt correctly, thus your point is moot.

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Actually, I do not use a spellchecker, because I have no intent of trying to publish any of this. I write it out for my own benefit, and the benefit of those that are in my group.

And? I don't clean my living area for 'Clean Living Area of the Year', but I don't half *** the job. I write for my own benefit and the benefit of those I share reading material with, and I try my best to write well and clearly because it reflects better on myself, and I feel happier with it.

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I never dreamed someone would so harshly critique it, because I think normal people would not even care, they tend to have more to do in life than critique things written on the boards like this.

I'll say this, while it wasn't worded well, it was hardly harsh. Now, if he told you to stop writing and go and chop your fingers off because nothing you committed to paper would ever be worth the effort of even a cursory glance, that'd be harsh. But he didn't, so it really isn't in the world of critiques, even on the internet.

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I write what I write, and usually do not even go back to check it, it is more of a history/log to keep things in order, for myself and those that play in my group.

I'd actually advise giving things a look over just in case, it's a handy skill not just in writing on the board, but elsewhere. Better you practice good spelling and editing/checking than not and miss something on say a job application/covering letter. Plus I keep stuff like this too, but mostly I keep it on my PC or on a cloud drive somewhere. If I posted all my musings or notes online, well, there'd not be space left for anything else. For sharing with friends, might I recommend Googledocs? All you need is a Gmail/Googlemail account, and you can share documents between all the members of your group, with collaborative editing and so on if you ever wished.

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I am sorry it did not appeal to you, but that gave you no right to hijack the thread. If my spelling was a true concern, you would have sent me a message instead. I would not have dreamed of doing this to someone elses thread, but, then again, I have common sense, and I have common courtesy that is definately lacking in your approach. I am asking you to stay off of my threads. If you follow my threads and continue trying to hijack them, I will report you. Thank you, have a great day.

I'd hardly call it a hijack, or a lack of common sense. Just one comment regarding your spelling, not that... diplomatically worded. Writing should always be polished though, it sets a good practice, and on the internet, where text is all we have to go by, it sets a good standard too.

Don't post stuff on a public board you don't wish to be read.

Seriously, your stuff wasn't terrible, but could live with improvement. Everyone's writing could do with improvement, up to and including published authors. It's a shame that you don't seem to want to improve.

What you post here is what people are going to think of you if they haven't met you. Misspelling a word which is on display in the game, constantly, gives the impression that you don't care. If you don't care that much, why bother?

I'm just going to say I think he understands our point of view. What he does with his writing is his business not ours IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DONT READ IT. so we shoud back off and give him his thread back. And ffm was the comment about him not grasping the language really nessesary? In my view was rude and uncalled for.

LukeMinhere, I am so sorry that you've had to remove your posts and feel compelled to apologise on behalf of certain people. Seriously guys, take a friggin chill pill. This is exactly the kind of intimidating behaviour that scares people away from the forums and indeed (union) roleplaying at large. Luke, as the original poster you are perfectly at liberty to deny by request any responses, comment, feedback or criticism of your work.

Sure he didn't display a disclaimer to this effect in the opening of the thread but is it really any wonder that he's taking this stance now? His work may not be up the standards expected by certain readers but it certainly doesn't warrant the blunt reception its been given. Luke's upset about it and has asked you to mind your own business and back off. That's perfectly understandable and I suggest we respect his wishes and disengage from his thread.

Garjzla and Cactus Brawler have said it too. Courtesy costs nothing and snarkyness is just not called for. I refuse to stand by and watch without saying anything in this guy's defence. Luke, if you want to write a story titled Mutent Kind, by the freedom of our countries, go for it. Limited skill or not, go for it. Practise makes perfect and if you want to progress in your own way, at your own pace, do just that. Don't let these guys shoot you down and don't let them shake your confidence.

I'm sure we all know who I speak of when I say the overbearing throwing around of weight is simply characteristic of this person and his words and actions must never to be taken to heart. He stands as no representation of us union roleplayers. Most of us are bloody nice chappies. Get on with your stories Luke and have your fun.

-- Pious.

Wait, I better spell check right? *rolls eyes*

Y'know... Once upon a time it was acceptable, even welcome, to post critique to people's fiction. Both good and bad critique, as long as it wasn't offensive it was welcomed.

I could have analysed the OP's story, taken it apart bit by bit and gone through every single sentence, but instead all I did was POLITELY suggest he use a spell checker.

But I guess that now the politically correct brigade have turned up, that's not allowed any more. I guess that now, no matter how good or bad the writing may be, the only thing we're allowed to do is say "It's great, keep up the good work."

Well, you know what? I don't hold to that idiotic viewpoint. Critique is intended to help the writer realise what mistakes they've made and hopefully improve on their skills. But you PC folks clearly don't WANT people to see their mistakes, and thusly never improve. Political correctness is probably the WORST thing that ever happened to civilised society and I flat out refuse to ascribe to its moronic standards. When something is bad, I will say its bad, simple.

If people post fiction to these forums, then that fiction is explicitly open to critique from anyone able to post in the forums. As long as the critique isn't offensive, there is NO rule that says I cannot call it good OR bad. Since when has "Dude, PLEASE use a spellchecker" been offensive? Unless someone changed the meaning of the word 'please' when I wasn't looking.

So then I get called a troll (which is a direct insult) by the OP because he took offense at my words. Well, sorry bud; but if you don't want to take criticism for your fiction, you shouldn't post it in a public place. I've taken far far worse critique (such as Pious's insults above) than my simple few words, and I use that to improve my writing. I suggest you do the same.

CB, the point is that he didn't ask for anything at all. He didn't ask for feedback, but neither did he ask for the thread to be left only for him. As such it's just like any of the other creative writing threads here: fair game for feedback.

I will say again: it is an open thread that anyone can read and post in. There was no indication from the OP that it was intended to be closed to him and his "group". At least not until after he edited his original posts to remove their content.

If he was offended by FFM's feedback, the correct course of action was to report the offending post and let NCSoft deal with it. Not to call FFM a troll in public and by pm.

Now, with the OP having stated that he wanted the thread to be closed to a limited group, I'm not commenting at all on the contents of his original posts, but on the way he responded to criticism, which is, to say the least, poor.

We should fall on the side of caution then Shadowe, particularly FFM.

It should be fairly obvious to him that criticism is not taken very well all the time, and since the OP wasn't asking for criticism, he should of taken his critique to PM, or you know not given it.

Given the multi-post format of the thread, it should of been fairly obvious the OP was setting something up.

Two words: Open Forum.

If the OP posts something publicly, then he should expect public replies and responses.

I am not, please note, defending what FFM said, but his right to do so when the OP had not indicated the closed nature of the thread, which was apparently his intention. "Get you hands off my thread" is not a reasonable response. Nor is "you're a troll". If the feedback had been positive, it should have garnered the same response, and I don't believe it would have.

To be blunt, screaming after the fact that someone has invaded "your thread", when you didn't indicate it was private just looks like throwing toys out of the pram, and the OP's unwillingness to accept that his creative writing can be improved stinks of arrogance.

So, to the OP, kindly resume your thread, and let us know what you expect and what we can expect from you.

Thanks.