I will soo sign up for this 
well should we eliminate powersets or certain combinations? like get rid of rad/psy only or get rid of rad primary and psy secondary? i dunno which way do u guys think is better?
I think we should look at with a committee. I nominate Ownage, Terp and Ajax to head up.
Ill help!!
If you guys are up for it and be on tonight I would be up for a discussion on it on Old School, VR, or Renegade vent tonight around 9pm CST?
once you take out the main things that are dominant, you'll end up with a new set of dominant things.
i agree though that the whole current environment of either be 3 shot by a blaster with 2 phases, or tked into a corner thing is pretty
for example, without perma tk and dual phase blasters cold could become the new hot [censored], without cold, maybe something else, and so on.
Might as well remove
Mind Doms
Dual Phase Blasters (maybe just Fire/Nrgs)
Rad/Psy (maybe Rad/Sonic, eh)
Ice/Rad (maybe Ice/Storm, but that's no more overpowered than a bunch of different colds and stuff)
Stalkers and Ice Tanks (more to promote duels that can even potentially go either way at all)
Maybe Poison MMs, I haven't dueled a lot so I don't know.
My storms would be so happy with a gimp duel ladder, I'm sure I'd still lose a lot, but right now if your build isn't set up to handle Ice/Rads, Mind/Fires, and Fire/Nrgs, its just a joke for dueling. Closer losses would be nice for a nub like me
I partially agree with Hans but I don't feel, for instance, that my Ice/Storm has ever had a really rock paper scissors fight with any colds, after fighting several ices and a couple of darks, seems to have always come down to skill. Nothing better than more of those kinds of duels.
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well should we eliminate powersets or certain combinations? like get rid of rad/psy only or get rid of rad primary and psy secondary? i dunno which way do u guys think is better?
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I'd say combinations or things like dual phase. Storm/Psy certainly isn't overpowered in duels and while Rad/Sonic may be, its certainly a different fight than a Rad/Psy.
ok so then a list of the the combos we should consider removing? ill start us off:
ice/em tank
fire/em blaster
ice/em blaster
rad/psy defender
ice/rad controler
ice/cold corr
dark/cold corr
mind, fire, ice/fire, ice, psy doms
poison MMs
spine/regen scrap
fire/em tank
em/elec brute
em/anything stalker
anything im missing? anything that should be taken out of that list?
Defender TK and double phase? Maybe just remove em as whole be cool to see some other toon duel blade tank or stalker. Fire/cold just as good as the others.
fire/fire doms still a go?!
no lol... mind fire ice primaries and fire ice psy secondaries i thought should be taken out. up for debate tho.
x/therm/mu
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x/therm/mu
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noooo!!!! i just worked out a build for my fire/thermal/mu 
lol so are you taking out everything good then? I think just taking out those 5 or 6 builds that make everyone sad would be enough Should I start prepping my Spines/Dark lol
gimp ladder ftw
pretty much,
as the current overpowered things are removed, you just end up with new things that will be overpowered
till its down to ff v dark miasma duels.
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pretty much,
as the current overpowered things are removed, you just end up with new things that will be overpowered
till its down to ff v dark miasma duels.
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Guess I will start on a IO build for my invul/ss tank 
I also expect Spines/SR to do well also
Has there ever been a gimp tourney on Test? I remember there being one on Champion that went by a point system. Each powerset was worth a certain amount of points, and you could only pair up sets that didn't go over the set limit.
It was like 6 points total for any build. Secondaries and primaries were listed as worth 1-5 depending on how good they are. So if it was a corr and ice was worth 5, and /dm was worth 1, you can use that. But /rad would be 5 and can only be paired with AR..
this is why this game is so entertaining.
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Has there ever been a gimp tourney on Test? I remember there being one on Champion that went by a point system. Each powerset was worth a certain amount of points, and you could only pair up sets that didn't go over the set limit.
It was like 6 points total for any build. Secondaries and primaries were listed as worth 1-5 depending on how good they are. So if it was a corr and ice was worth 5, and /dm was worth 1, you can use that. But /rad would be 5 and can only be paired with AR..
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long long time ago but the copy tool was down and alot of people ended up not being able tomake it (idk how many actually, I just know I missed =/)
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ok so then a list of the the combos we should consider removing? ill start us off:
ice/em tank
fire/em blaster
ice/em blaster
rad/psy defender
ice/rad controler
ice/cold corr
dark/cold corr
mind, fire, ice/fire, ice, psy doms
poison MMs
spine/regen scrap
fire/em tank
em/elec brute
em/anything stalker
anything im missing? anything that should be taken out of that list?
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lol take out em/elec brutes but not like storm/psi, non-ice colds etc?
i don't know why fire/ and ice/ doms are being removed... i thought mind/ was the only real problem
How about a lvl 4 tourney?
Better remove storms... or they will be overpowered without the toons on that list
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i don't know why fire/ and ice/ doms are being removed... i thought mind/ was the only real problem
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fire/fire is broken. It scares other doms.
What can we agree on?