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Uberness, Thy Name is Illusion! Ill/Kin Guide v2.0

AWOL_Wallus

By AWOL_Wallus,
Posted on: 2005-01-15 23:44 in Player Guides

 

Posted

ok i need help with a giant problem. i need to take out two powers to put in fly. i also need to move two slots to fly so that i can have some speed in it.

im thinking of removing inertial reduction (cuz three travel powers seems rediculous) and increase density (cuz its such a situational power for me, only use it once someone gets held) but the problem is i don't know where to find the slots... i managed to find one slot cuz i had 3 hold enhancemets in my blind.. but what other slot before 41?

i use the group template that the OP posted

 

Posted

I have a problem, I want to use recall at a level prior to 15 but if I do so, I get a conflict in slotting: i dont want to move up PA, stamina and phantasm but if I move down recall (which provides slots for stamina) I have to move up a power that uses no slots. which should it be?

another thing is, I'm thinking of switching speedboost fir decieve, speedboost is only of use for my phantasms (limited) and I'll put soloing before teaming.

Below is my current build:

01 : Transfusion acc(01) hel(13)
01 : Spectral Wounds acc(01) dam(13)
02 : Blind acc(02) acc(3) hlddur(3) hlddur(5) hlddur(5) hlddur(34)
04 : Siphon Power acc(04) acc(17)
06 : Flash acc(06) acc(7) hlddur(7) hlddur(9) recred(9) recred(11)
08 : Superior Invisibility defbuf(08)
10 : Siphon Speed recred(10) recred(11) acc(15) acc(17)
12 : Hover endred(12)
14 : Fly fltspd(14) fltspd(15)
16 : Swift runspd(16)
18 : Phantom Army acc(18) dam(19) recred(19) recred(21) recred(21) recred(27)
20 : Health hel(20)
22 : Stamina endrec(22) endrec(23) endrec(23) endrec(25) endrec(25) endrec(27)
24 : Speed Boost endred(24)
26 : Spectral Terror acc(26)
28 : Hasten recred(28) recred(29) recred(29) recred(31) recred(31) recred(31)
30 : Recall Friend Empty(30)
32 : Phantasm acc(32) dam(33) dam(33) dam(33) dam(34) dam(34)

 

Posted

I hope everyone enjoyed Kinetics pre issue 4, because they gutted it in PVE and PVP. I would not reccomend it as a powerset anymore. Gee I'm glad I worked and spent the time to get to 50 with it before it was ruined.

 

Posted

How about some examples or observations? The little testing that I've done with Ill/Kin has been favorable...specifically to Siphon Speed.

Protector:
Hololad - Mutant Ill/Kin Controller
Stormy Satyr - Grav/Storm Controller
Lt. MacReady - AR/Dev Blaster
Holobad - Mind/Psi Dominator

 

Posted

With I4 out and the change to Superior invisibility, i opted for that instead of Group Invis (since I prefer to solo). Since SI is a toggle, would I have been better off with GI regardless?

 

Posted

Kick [censored] guide!

 

Posted

you can now use attacks and buffs whilst in invis mode!

 

Posted

ok i need some help here and check this build out i went off ofFf Spectral build but now that I4 is out i havent found any new ILL/Kin builds out there so i did my own i neeed some feedback..Thanks guys..


Primary Power Set: Illusion Control
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool Set: Fitness
Power Pool Set: Leadership
Power Pool Set: Speed
Power Pool Set: Medicine
Ancillery Pool Set: Psionic Mastery


Hero Profile
============
Level 1: Spectral Wounds Acc(A),Dmg(3),Dmg(3),Dmg(7)
Level 1: Transfusion Acc(A),Heal(9),Heal(9),Heal(11),Heal(11)
Level 2: Blind Acc(A),Hold(5),Hold(5),Hold(7)
Level 4: Siphon Power Acc(A)
Level 6: Hurdle Jump(A)
Level 8: Hasten RechRdx(A),RechRdx(13),RechRdx(15),RechRdx(15),Rec hRdx(17),RechRdx(17)
Level 10: Maneuvers EndRdx(A)
Level 12: Group Invisibility RechRdx(A),RechRdx(13),DefBuff(23)
Level 14: Super Speed Run(A)
Level 16: Increase Density ResDam(A),ResDam(46)
Level 18: Phantom Army RechRdx(A),RechRdx(19),RechRdx(19),RechRdx(21),Rec hRdx(21),RechRdx(23)
Level 20: Swift Run(A)
Level 22: Stamina RecInc(A),RecInc(25),RecInc(25),RecInc(27),RecInc( 27),RecInc(29)
Level 24: Flash Acc(A),Acc(29),Hold(31),Hold(31),Hold(37)
Level 26: Tactics ToHit(A),ToHit(31),ToHit(34),ToHit(34),ToHit(34),T oHit(36)
Level 28: Inertial Reduction Jump(A)
Level 30: Speed Boost EndRdx(A)
Level 32: Phantasm Acc(A),RechRdx(33),RechRdx(33),Dmg(33),Dmg(39),Dmg (39)
Level 35: Transference Acc(A),RechRdx(36),RechRdx(36),RechRdx(37),RechRdx (37)
Level 38: Fulcrum Shift Acc(A),Acc(39),RechRdx(40),RechRdx(40),RechRdx(40) ,RechRdx(43)
Level 41: Indomitable Will RechRdx(A),RechRdx(42),RechRdx(42),RechRdx(42),Rec hRdx(43),RechRdx(43)
Level 44: Mind Over Body ResDam(A),ResDam(45),ResDam(45),ResDam(45),ResDam( 46),ResDam(46)
Level 47: Psionic Tornado Acc(A),Dmg(48),Dmg(48),Dmg(48)
Level 49: Aid Other ActAcc(A),Heal(50),Heal(50),Heal(50)


Hero History
============

Level 1: Added Spectral Wounds (Primary)[Acc]
Level 1: Added Transfusion (Secondary)[Acc]

Level 2: Added Blind (Primary)[Acc]

Level 3: Added Enhancement Slot to Spectral Wounds[Dmg]
Level 3: Added Enhancement Slot to Spectral Wounds[Dmg]

Level 4: Added Siphon Power (Secondary)[Acc]

Level 5: Added Enhancement Slot to Blind[Hold]
Level 5: Added Enhancement Slot to Blind[Hold]

Level 6: Added Hurdle (Power Pool)[Jump]

Level 7: Added Enhancement Slot to Spectral Wounds[Dmg]
Level 7: Added Enhancement Slot to Blind[Hold]

Level 8: Added Hasten (Power Pool)[RechRdx]

Level 9: Added Enhancement Slot to Transfusion[Heal]
Level 9: Added Enhancement Slot to Transfusion[Heal]

Level 10: Added Maneuvers (Power Pool)[EndRdx]

Level 11: Added Enhancement Slot to Transfusion[Heal]
Level 11: Added Enhancement Slot to Transfusion[Heal]

Level 12: Added Group Invisibility (Primary)[RechRdx]

Level 13: Added Enhancement Slot to Hasten[RechRdx]
Level 13: Added Enhancement Slot to Group Invisibility[RechRdx]

Level 14: Added Super Speed (Power Pool)[Run]

Level 15: Added Enhancement Slot to Hasten[RechRdx]
Level 15: Added Enhancement Slot to Hasten[RechRdx]

Level 16: Added Increase Density (Secondary)[ResDam]

Level 17: Added Enhancement Slot to Hasten[RechRdx]
Level 17: Added Enhancement Slot to Hasten[RechRdx]

Level 18: Added Phantom Army (Primary)[RechRdx]

Level 19: Added Enhancement Slot to Phantom Army[RechRdx]
Level 19: Added Enhancement Slot to Phantom Army[RechRdx]

Level 20: Added Swift (Power Pool)[Run]

Level 21: Added Enhancement Slot to Phantom Army[RechRdx]
Level 21: Added Enhancement Slot to Phantom Army[RechRdx]

Level 22: Added Stamina (Power Pool)[RecInc]

Level 23: Added Enhancement Slot to Group Invisibility[DefBuff]
Level 23: Added Enhancement Slot to Phantom Army[RechRdx]

Level 24: Added Flash (Primary)[Acc]

Level 25: Added Enhancement Slot to Stamina[RecInc]
Level 25: Added Enhancement Slot to Stamina[RecInc]

Level 26: Added Tactics (Power Pool)[ToHit]

Level 27: Added Enhancement Slot to Stamina[RecInc]
Level 27: Added Enhancement Slot to Stamina[RecInc]

Level 28: Added Inertial Reduction (Secondary)[Jump]

Level 29: Added Enhancement Slot to Stamina[RecInc]
Level 29: Added Enhancement Slot to Flash[Acc]

Level 30: Added Speed Boost (Secondary)[EndRdx]

Level 31: Added Enhancement Slot to Flash[Hold]
Level 31: Added Enhancement Slot to Flash[Hold]
Level 31: Added Enhancement Slot to Tactics[ToHit]

Level 32: Added Phantasm (Primary)[Acc]

Level 33: Added Enhancement Slot to Phantasm[RechRdx]
Level 33: Added Enhancement Slot to Phantasm[RechRdx]
Level 33: Added Enhancement Slot to Phantasm[Dmg]

Level 34: Added Enhancement Slot to Tactics[ToHit]
Level 34: Added Enhancement Slot to Tactics[ToHit]
Level 34: Added Enhancement Slot to Tactics[ToHit]

Level 35: Added Transference (Secondary)[Acc]

Level 36: Added Enhancement Slot to Tactics[ToHit]
Level 36: Added Enhancement Slot to Transference[RechRdx]
Level 36: Added Enhancement Slot to Transference[RechRdx]

Level 37: Added Enhancement Slot to Transference[RechRdx]
Level 37: Added Enhancement Slot to Transference[RechRdx]
Level 37: Added Enhancement Slot to Flash[Hold]

Level 38: Added Fulcrum Shift (Secondary)[Acc]

Level 39: Added Enhancement Slot to Phantasm[Dmg]
Level 39: Added Enhancement Slot to Phantasm[Dmg]
Level 39: Added Enhancement Slot to Fulcrum Shift[Acc]

Level 40: Added Enhancement Slot to Fulcrum Shift[RechRdx]
Level 40: Added Enhancement Slot to Fulcrum Shift[RechRdx]
Level 40: Added Enhancement Slot to Fulcrum Shift[RechRdx]

Level 41: Added Indomitable Will (Ancillery)[RechRdx]

Level 42: Added Enhancement Slot to Indomitable Will[RechRdx]
Level 42: Added Enhancement Slot to Indomitable Will[RechRdx]
Level 42: Added Enhancement Slot to Indomitable Will[RechRdx]

Level 43: Added Enhancement Slot to Indomitable Will[RechRdx]
Level 43: Added Enhancement Slot to Indomitable Will[RechRdx]
Level 43: Added Enhancement Slot to Fulcrum Shift[RechRdx]

Level 44: Added Mind Over Body (Ancillery)[ResDam]

Level 45: Added Enhancement Slot to Mind Over Body[ResDam]
Level 45: Added Enhancement Slot to Mind Over Body[ResDam]
Level 45: Added Enhancement Slot to Mind Over Body[ResDam]

Level 46: Added Enhancement Slot to Mind Over Body[ResDam]
Level 46: Added Enhancement Slot to Mind Over Body[ResDam]
Level 46: Added Enhancement Slot to Increase Density[ResDam]

Level 47: Added Psionic Tornado (Ancillery)[Acc]

Level 48: Added Enhancement Slot to Psionic Tornado[Dmg]
Level 48: Added Enhancement Slot to Psionic Tornado[Dmg]
Level 48: Added Enhancement Slot to Psionic Tornado[Dmg]

Level 49: Added Aid Other (Power Pool)[ActAcc]

Level 50: Added Enhancement Slot to Aid Other[Heal]
Level 50: Added Enhancement Slot to Aid Other[Heal]
Level 50: Added Enhancement Slot to Aid Other[Heal]

 

Posted

I would question your sanity for waiting so long to get flash.

That power can save a group wipe if slotted as soon as possible. It will turn a large group encounter into a small one (if any resist) and allow you to kill at relative ease.

Its that important,

 

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[ QUOTE ]
Kick [censored] guide!

[/ QUOTE ]I'll second that!

There is an art, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

 

Posted

Got any suggestions for ill/ken pvp?

 

Posted

Amazing, amazing, comprehensive guide.
Can we get an I5 update? I'm thinking about this as my new main....

 

Posted

Seconding on dataset's comment, this guide really needs an update to reflect all the changes from I5 (Possibly with a name change to reflect the distinct loss Uber) and perhaps the ID changes as well.

Or maybe we need to muddle through the ID issue on our own for a little bit...

All that is planned fails. All that is born dies.
All that is built crumbles. This will always be true.

But memories remain, And that is beautiful.

 

Posted

this is my I8 proposed build, i'm only level 10 right now


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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Dreygon
Level: 50
Archetype: Controller
Primary: Illusion Control
Secondary: Kinetics
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01) --> Spectral Wounds==> Acc(1)Acc(3)Dmg(7)Dmg(11)Dmg(17)
01) --> Transfusion==> Acc(1)Acc(3)Heal(5)Heal(21)Heal(31)
02) --> Blind==> Acc(2)Acc(5)Hold(7)Hold(9)Rechg(9)Rechg(27)
04) --> Deceive==> Acc(4)Acc(11)ConfDur(13)ConfDur(15)Rechg(31)
06) --> Recall Friend==> Rechg(6)
08) --> Superior Invisibility==> EndRdx(8)EndRdx(13)DefBuf(17)DefBuf(31)
10) --> Siphon Speed==> Acc(10)Acc(15)
12) --> Swift==> Run(12)
14) --> Hover==> EndRdx(14)Acc(37)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16)
18) --> Phantom Army==> Rechg(18)Rechg(19)Rechg(19)Dmg(23)Dmg(29)Dmg(29)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(23)EndMod(34)EndMod(43)EndMod(48)
22) --> Speed Boost==> EndMod(22)
24) --> Hasten==> Rechg(24)Rechg(25)Rechg(25)
26) --> Spectral Terror==> Acc(26)Fear(27)
28) --> Teleport==> EndRdx(28)Range(50)
30) --> Flash==> Acc(30)Acc(34)Hold(36)Hold(37)Rechg(40)Rechg(40)
32) --> Phantasm==> Acc(32)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)Acc(33)Dmg(34)
35) --> Transference==> Acc(35)Acc(36)EndMod(36)EndMod(37)Rechg(43)Rechg(46)
38) --> Fulcrum Shift==> Acc(38)Acc(39)Rechg(39)Rechg(39)Rechg(40)Rechg(50)
41) --> Power Blast==> Acc(41)Acc(42)Dmg(42)Dmg(42)Dmg(43)
44) --> Temp Invulnerability==> EndRdx(44)EndRdx(45)EndRdx(45)DmgRes(45)DmgRes(46)DmgRes(46)
47) --> Power Boost==> Rechg(47)Rechg(48)Rechg(48)
49) --> Inertial Reduction==> Jump(49)Rechg(50)
---------------------------------------------
01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Containment==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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