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My tanker doesn't do damage quickly, but...

In I19, everyone will have Health and Stamina starting early on, making life much easier for just about everyone.

Oh, cool. Glad to have helped.

Thing is, it's not just knowing that the lowest price always sells first; it's realizing what this implies about "flippers".

The only time a flipper gets a sale is when there is not a single item for sale at a lower price. So if I'm buying at 20k and selling at 80k, that works only if there's no one listing anywhere between 20 and 80. Under 20, I can buy, over 80, I can undercut, but if you bid 21k and list at 79k, I get nothing -- I never get a single purchase or sale, because your bids are always higher than mine (and only the HIGHEST bid can ever fill), and your listings are always lower than mine (and only the LOWEST listing can ever fill).

My experience thus far is that it's slow but not usually fatal. In fact, he's impressively high mitigation compared to some other troller builds I've tried.

I try to aim for "disruptive enough to make things interesting". A lone minion getting knocked off a balcony and shooting at us from far away could be funny, or irritating, but won't kill us all. A single group ported in at the elevators is not going to be a big deal with 6 large robots waiting to gank them. So, you know... Enthusiastic stupidity, but carefully tweaked to tend to work out.

Irresponsible Captain Tylor, maybe.

That may be. I actually do enjoy it, but she's part of a duo with a SoA, whose player has been out of the loop for a bit, so she'll level slowly. Which may be livable.

I was thinking about working pretty hard on my dp/dev blaster, but I made a very poor slotting decision which has nerfed her substantially, and I think with I19 close I'll just wait for the freespec so I can extract the sorta pricey proc and put it to better use.

If that's true, though, it's just as true of a small market as a large one.

What controls prices is not absolute difference between supply and demand, but ratio.

I think I see where you've gone wrong. Imagine that we have 10 items available, and 8 are demanded. That's a 5:4 ratio, and 2 absolute excess. Now imagine instead 10,000 items available, and 8,000 demanded. That's still a 5:4 ratio, but it's now 2,000 absolute excess.

You're apparently assuming that the 2,000 absolute excess will push prices down further than the 2 absolute excess, but that's not how markets work; what's relevant is the 5:4 ratio.

That is indeed it. Since we group kids by age, there end up necessarily being pairs of kids 11 months apart in the same grade, and the older ones tend to do better, and be bigger.

What the !#@*!#?

Total supply and demand should be unchanged by the merger. We'd expect to see more stability, but no change at all in supply or demand per se. Why on earth would you expect a merger to change the supply/demand totals? It might even them out, but it wouldn't change them.

Before merger:
10 million things wanted red side, 8 million available things red side.
20 million things wanted blue side, 16 million available things blue side.

After merger:
30 million things wanted, 24 million available things.

This should not significantly change prices.

Stabilizing is exactly what we'd expect. However, the market merger was not alone event. At the same time, other things happened:

* Many people came back to the game and started playing new low-level characters.
* A-merits were introduced, massively increasing availability of many desireable high-end recipes like LotG +recharge.
* An AE exploit was found, and then another one which they haven't fixed yet, creating a HUGE flood of rare salvage (25-40 and 41-50) and a HUGE shortage of common salvage, plus a huge flood of inf.

Not when demand is also going up.

Do you understand that "supply" and "demand" are two things, and that both of them participate in setting prices? An increase in supply only lowers prices if demand is completely unchanged.

I would like to see someone build an alot out of common sense.

The problem is, people with "common sense" who "can see whats happening" [sic.] are often wrong. But, since they are relying on untrained and unsupported intuition (also called "common sense"), they have no argumentation, nor evidence, nor any way to check or verify their beliefs. So they remain firmly committed to something obvious that common sense supports.

Consider that "common sense" tells us that heavier than air flight should be impossible, that it should not be possible for a boat sailing down wind to make better time than the wind does (not just better speed in some other direction, but better time in the direction that the wind is going), and that there is no reason for a correlation between shoe size and spelling test scores. However, common sense is wrong about all of these.

"Don't like playing the market" isn't stupid.

"Marketeers have mind control powers allowing them to force other players to bid millions more than they need to" is stupid.

On this, I think, we are in very close to full agreement. I don't really dislike the market as such, but I find the shortage of recipe/salvage/market slots to be painful and disruptive. I do a lot of things to accommodate this, and many of them make the game less fun for me than one with larger limits. (I don't necessarily object to finite storage, but the storage is Too Small By Far.)

I don't think anyone thinks that people who merely don't want to play this way are "stupid".

The thing is... It's possible to dislike something, but be able to comprehend it. It's also possible to dislike something, and not be able to comprehend it. (You can also like something whether or not you comprehend it, although "like and not comprehend" isn't all that common.)

Some of the participants here clearly can't get their heads wrapped around the market. Most noticably, a lot of people do not fully understand the implications of the lowest listing price always selling first.

I have seen nothing to suggest that you're stupid, and a great deal to suggest that you find many of the same aspects of the game frustrating that I do, which means you must be exceptionally clever, because people who agree with me always are.

(This is, of course, completely logical; since we know that the argument "doesn't agree with me, therefore stupid" is wrong, it naturally follows that the truth is "does agree with me, therefore smart.")

Something to do?

It happens constantly to me if I actively play a character and try to sell drops I don't have storage space for.