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Originally Posted by firespray

Don't get me wrong, I kind of see your side too OP. It can be very annoying when you're asking your teammates to do something and they aren't listening (like the one guy who always insists on trying to save glacia and/or infernia on speed LGTFs), I just don't think you were justified in what you asked them to do this time around, and I don't think you handled it very well when they didn't listen.

Originally Posted by ViKtoricus

I've played alot of MMORPGs and have always been on teams. This game is heaven for people who loves to team-up.

A while ago, I was doing a level-22 mission with a group of 5 people (we were 6 total including me). Unfortunately for me, all of them were uncooperative. My request was simple.

SPAM THE MOBS WITH YOUR BEST ATTACKS.

The truth is, the team could have been "okay". Nothing really has to be perfect. Even if there are occasional disobediences from your members, you should be fine if those minor things are kept at minimum and not become annoyingly consistent. But in this group, two of the members were being very rude. Although I cannot guarantee you that I can provide a perfect, word-by-word, direct quotations from the chat box, I can assure you that what I am about to show you is how the conversation basically was:



Me: (Just arrived in the mission door.) Wait.

Jerk # 1: For?

Me: We have the strength in numbers. FULL ATTACK!

Jerk # 1: Are you like Captain Obvious or something?

Me: (Ignored the comment and kept going.)

(We were attacking some mobs. I got killed because no one helped me when 4 mobs aggressed towards me. No big deal.)

Me: Revive please.

(Revived by someone)

Me: Thank you.

Jerk # 1: I guess you didn't follow the plan did you?

Me: Don't give me that attitude.

Jerk # 1: Are you trying to command us like pets?

Jerk # 2: He can't. That's the beauty of it.

Me: (addressed to Jerk # 1) I'm kicking you out of the team you jackass.

(Kicked him out.)



Members of the party got a little shocked (so does the jackass). In all fairness, they all thought I was disrespectful and that I should have "respected the underlings before being respected back."

But I digress...

It is in my belief that RESPECT is something that is freely given and firmly assumed. People must respect other people. A janitor deserves respect just as much as the President, a waiter, a teacher, or a plumber. Earning respect is a matter of regally practicing your liberty to be treated with respect.

In this particulat case, I was the leader of the group, I was the one who created the group, and it is clear in the beginning that I have the power and freedom to kick out any member out of my own will, for any reason.

They all sided with the alleged *********...

What happened after then? I started recruiting members again on broadcast, ignored *********'s smart-alleck comment (on broadcast), and found two willing members who helped me with my mission.

How did it go? Much better. At first, the other one was AFK and told us to go ahead without her. There were only the two of us and yet we were doing much better and mowing mobs much faster compared to the 6-man group I was in, all because me and him were actually listening to each other.

It is here that the value of having quality members is shown to be a much better jewel than a legion of morons.

Originally Posted by Stormfront_NA

I know your pain...

I do the same, I pass the star to the next most experienced person and ask them to invite the 9th person and leave the group.



Sue

Originally Posted by Blood_Beret

It seems like everywhere you look someone is complaining about Lore Pets, Preatorians, No Ponies, etc. I just want to say thank you to the devs for all the work they have put into this game and i20. Yes I may not agree with all of it, but I do appreciate the work you guys and gals are doing.

Thank You
A Customer

PS - When can we buy the "My Little Nemesis Pony"

Originally Posted by slainsteel

Would love to see your tin mage times.
Our club has managed 15 minutes, I've heard of 13.5 minutes; I think your team might do better

Originally Posted by slainsteel

Would _really like to know the team composition and if any temps were used
Would help me do mine faster.

Originally Posted by slainsteel

That LGTF time is good but not great or amazing, but quite a few of the rest are I am still shaking my head at that 22m stf; now that is literally nuts.

Originally Posted by Ael Rhiana

Completely false. You may be getting 2 - 3 shards on a 20 minute ITF every time you run one, but not everyone is. One of my last ITF's was over an hour and a half (shard run) and I got a total of 5 shards. For an hour and a half.

Likewise my husband has done a kill all ITF and ended up with only 3 shards at the end. And I have also had times running 45 minute ITFs and getting 8 shards or more by the end. It's random and it varies.

Honestly...I have the best luck at Hami raids. I generally get 3 - 6 shards before the end reward, and Justice Hami raids tend to take about 15 - 25 minutes.

Originally Posted by Chaos Creator

Looking through the Silly NERF THESE PEOPLE NAO! thread on Justice it looks like they've managed a 30:17 Manticore so that's one you're beat on.
Here

Originally Posted by UberRod

What with needing shards I figure bragging about how fast you can run an ITF is like bragging about how fast you can have sex.

With the incarnate stuff out why would anyone want to do a speed ITF? Barring of course that it might be the WST and you want to cycle as many toons through it as possible. or it is late at night and you need to get to sleep.

Originally Posted by Roderick

"Properly slotted", of course, just means one End, two Def if you're using level 50 common IOs.

Originally Posted by Liz Bathory

I would say.. try a few other servers first...

Maybe even the EU community. That is possile soon.

Not all communities are the same. And if one has too many hassles it seems the time is ripe for a server switch!

Originally Posted by Roderick

The Envenomed Dagger, often available dirt cheap on the market, carries a -regen debuff, and can be quite helpful against Trapdoor, especially if his regen is only a tiny amount above your damage.

Originally Posted by Miss Chief

Sorry to say this, but while it is a good thing to have equality throughout the playerbase I can forsee Defiant becoming like a ghost town within a few weeks of the list merge. people may not wish to pay for character transfers between servers but I can see some of Defiant's players disappearing onto other servers and once they get settled then they'll make the occassional character transfer and before you know it they hardly play on the 'EU' servers at all. I suspect Union will be the same. The Lure of more populated servers will be strong.