khorak_EU

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im curious to what looks like a shield bash? I thought there was just that tp attack thing?

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They had to redo many animations to work with a shield. It's possible it's not actually a shield attack per se, but Punch from the Superstrength set with a retooled animation that makes it look like you smacked them with the shield.

What use are powers that call in any of the Scooby Doo gang? They'll just dismiss themselves as soon as trouble starts!

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So she's a hyper sensitive woman, impervious to pain but can be brought to her knees by chocolate?

Sounds like an ex of mine...

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Impervious to damage. She still feels pain, she does in fact feel it orders of magnitude more than any of us do, which is how she can be fought and defeated like anyone else. It just gets to the point where you cause her so much pain (or sensory input in general, like the strong taste example), she simply falls unconcious because her brain can't actually deal with it anymore.

It ties into the Willpower set being very bad at taking alpha strikes. You simply overwhelm her with too much to deal with all at the same time and you just knock her clean out. Otherwise you're giving her chance to concentrate on it and deal with it.....and then rip your damn arms off.

Depends on how you spin your invulnerability. As a play on the game mechanics Carnal Sin is entirely invulnerable, completely undestroyable thus far by any known force. You could use the woman as ammo in a c-fractional railgun and fail to damage her.

Which is entirely irrelevant to her because I took the 'Heightened Senses' in the Willpower set and ramped it up to lunatic levels. Loud noises she can just about cope with since she's kind of forced to get used to it, you can't realistically block the world out. But otherwise there's all sorts of ways to knock her out through sheer sensory overload. She eats the blandest food humanly possible and can be punched out simply via a pain overload. You could defeat the woman Discworld style (Thief of Time) by managing to land a chocolate in her mouth. She only wears the softest and lightest fabrics (with a preference for nothing) because otherwise it's like wearing a sandpaper suit (she has Vanguard armour pieces she hates), unrepresentable in the game would be her preferred grappling fighting style since striking damn well hurts, and she hovers everywhere. Doesn't even touch the floor.

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I spent the whole time until I could get another costume respec worrying I was going to get banned by a GM for corrupting any 12-year-olds that might be playing the game. (Then I realised I wasn't playing WoW... )

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Yeah? My favourite costume choice (because I'm a lonely 24 year old man) for the female model is Angelic Plus and Bikini 2 (I think...one of them anyway) both in black with a belt to hide the bits where it doesn't connect up well around the sides. Creates a nice kind of beach babe onesie I then start sticking pieces of armour all over. Oh, and for some reason I like making them albino freaks because it contrasts with the black costume better.

Now put a spiffy one shoulder veteran reward cape on so you don't notice her behind, accidentally leave the bikini bottom white so she looks completely naked down there, and spend a couple hours wondering why everyone keeps superspeeding back for a look after they pass by.

Somehow the lack of Age of Conan-esque anatomical correctness made it even worse.

EDIT: I should probably nominate this for the Dumbest Moment thread actually....

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As Dante said, Peacebringers are described as "masters of energy", so it wouldn't be any great stretch of the imagination for them to be able to vary the effect their attacks have. In fact, I can even DO that to some extent with IO's and their procs.

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Hacking through the in-universe equivalent of adamantium though, is a pointless personal empowerment and even worse, writes you into a corner. Now you have to make up reasons why you can't go anywhere and everywhere you want, or why you're not on speed dial for dealing with Kronos Titans, since you could cut through anything. All of a sudden there's a strange excess of exceptionally thick Impervium everywhere the bad guys need it despite its rarity, and where is everyone getting these Me-proof force fields?

Before you know it everyone is walking around in Kryptonite underpants until the writers get fed up and Infinite Crisis you into mortality.

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Oh... i have so many blonde moments in this game, and out of it ><

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You'd better be a natural blonde Missy, or I'm suing you for ruining the reputation our hair colour. Of course, if you are blonde however....*slap*....STOP MAKING THEM THINK WE'RE SO.....SO.....BLONDE!

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besides the more in-depth stuff mentioned by Khorak

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It's like an illness, I can't stop!

I'm pretty sure I can just do a search on my posting history for this one. Vodka for lunch doesn't make for good foruming kiddies.

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Energy tends to trump the densest of matter, so it passes between and disrupts molecular bonds much like Talsorian weapons apparently do.

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Everything you do to interact with matter is based on energy in some form, leaving that statement almost entirely pointless. It's blatantly obvious Impervium isn't dense at all, people are wearing full bodysuits of it, and the effect you described is nothing more than a monomolecular edge. Being thin enough to sidestep the problem of some sort of funky, obscenely strong molecular structure reduces your energy requirement to slice it somewhat.

Being a so called 'energy weapon' isn't some magic qualifier, it depends heavily on what you're using, what you're hitting, and when it really gets down to it, the sheer brute amount of energy you're using. A laser has to deliver vastly more energy into a human target in order to do the same damage as a bullet, because shooting a big bag of water with what amounts to a thermal energy beam is just a rubbish idea. Smacking it with a hypersonic pellet that simply bludgeons through the soft matter causing brutal hydrostatic shock? Ouchy.

Seeing as Impervium seems to maintain its tag of being virtually indestructible despite everyone toting Talsorian weapons, merely having a monomolecular edge seems to do squat to Impervium (or the Rikti wouldn't bother using utterly massive power weapons for the job). Those Vanguard soldiers won't be dying because of holes blown through their armour, they'll be dying because physics is a harsh b**** who will still horribly kill you with sheer concussive force and massive burns, since Rikti infantry weapons can apparently be used to level city blocks.

Where the hell was I going with this s***? Oh right. Even an M-16 is an 'energy weapon'. Cutting through any amount of Impervium like some sort of living lightsaber would make your character massively powerful, let alone a couple centimeters in one strike.

SUPERSTRENGTH SCRAPPERS. SUPER! STRENGTH! SCRAPPERS! ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!

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The FP are so old guard :P

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And yet each one will, one on one, smash you to pieces.

I wouldn't say we're a bit below them, I'd say we're largely the same, but with a frankly lunatic number of us (and lacking the random Thors, Hulks and having to make sure our most powerful hero is a neurotic freak so we can exclude him from easily mashing our latest plotline in five seconds flat). I'd love to see the Skrulls try to pre-emptively neutralise us lot. We've probably got more heroes in Paragon City alone than marvel has on the whole planet.

It's the sheer amount of us. Compared to the classic comicbook template, the CoX universe is a non-stop warzone. Just the other day I broke up an all out open war between the Council and Nemesis Army complete with a surprising and very grim dearth of civilian bodybags and poor policemen who had tried to defend them. I relaxed by getting involved in an area cordoned off due to another entirely unrelated total war with an extra-dimensional invasion force in the middle of the city, and then later considered stalking Golden Girl through the ruined future timestream of Atlas Park where, you guessed it, some sort of immense temporal war is taking place.

Skrull Invasion? Please. That's a Halloween event, at worst.

Pocket D for me I always thought of in the same way as the train station from Matrix Revolutions. There's no actual inability to fight each other, but it's Zeros personal little dimension, his power is supreme in it because it's all his, and he'll slap you silly if you start trying to fight each other in there. EDIT: Or more likely he'll eject you from it back into 'reality', probably at a speed high enough to hurt.

As to the canon, I also use the Freedom Phalanx, or more especially Statesman, as a bar for the abilities of our heroes. It's simple, at the very best your character might possibly manage to go toe to toe with Statesman, and certainly not easily. You are essentially the same power level as he is. More commonly, he will turn you into a greasy smear so fast you'll wonder why you bothered turning up. I find the idea of trying to talk yourself up like that in this game to be utterly laughable, if I were roleplaying my characters would be constantly laughing in the boastful face of such a person, and throwing out sarcastic comments about their supposed mighty abilities. I'd expect to recieve a lot of this with Khorak, who is a boastful barbarian by nature, and only notices defeats with irritable comments on being sucker punched or vowing never to go into battle drunk again. We all know better of course.

At the most I like to give my characters certain specialties, such as Carnal Sin being, as she claims of her time there before moving to Paragon City, "The fastest flier on the Rogue Isles", which I try to represent in game by slotting her Fly and Hover for speed and picking up a fair few movement speed increases from set bonuses. Sometimes I wonder if anyone else has put two extra slots in Fly to max out their speediness.

I actually encountered this 'God Modding' as you've all been putting it, a long time ago on the forums. Someone made a thread asking how powerful our heroes really are, especially compared to Marvel and DC counterparts. My response? Not very, especially based on the direct canon evidence of heroes having actually been tested in World War II and getting mashed up in open combat, and the most powerful single hero on the planet being downed by a tactical nuke (which hit a fast moving flying target, thus not big). We're Spidermen and Wolverines. We can change the world but not by being unstoppable titans of strength and power. Of course, this was contested by a lot of people whose characters had various absurd reasonings why they hadn't alternatively destroyed the planet or cured humanity of all its ills with their deific magnificence.

A heroic commander isn't something that's impossible to imagine. The problem is that if a comic concentrates on such a team of people then....well....obviously they've become bona fide heroes with character development and stuff in their own right.

It's not unreasonable to have a heroes pet class, the problem is that we truly think of them as pets and replaceable cannon fodder because of game mechanics instead of in a more heroic capacity; as our fellow heroes and brothers in arms. It would certainly be nice if the City of Heroes universe broke the mold a little bit and allowed those 'faceless minions' like the poor b*****d 'capekiller' SHIELD Agents to be a dangerous force actually capable of bringing down supers instead of being a convenient way to increase the bodycount and have some action without constantly jobbing another supervillain into it*. Unless the plot calls for it, when the hero will get sideswiped and captured before smashing everyone to pieces when it's most dramatic.

*Or just using Iron Man in the same capacity after sucking any likeability or principles out of the character.

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Hi!

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HAI2U! Got loincloth?

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Yeah, I just need a lucky rabbits paw to hang off it. Or four.

I'd drop in some sort of evil, argument spawning post but after the last few I've done recently, I've been feeling a bit too cheerful to do such a thing.

Instead, we do what any barbarian does when things are going well......MEAD AND WENCHES FOR ALL!

See? I'm so good I can do it without even trying. Yes the OP.

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Darn it, Stasis decides to leave and you come back... could the forums get any worse?

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Hi!

Geez. At least I try to use a little bit of gravitas and grammar when being a public nuisance.

He obviously hasn't been to Stevenage in a long time, the Littlewoods left a loooooooooooooooooooong time ago. It's not so much old as prehistoric. Stone Age Stevenage had a Littlewoods. Chav Age Stevenage just has a medley of phone shops and a Next.

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Yes! And just in time for Manhunt 2 (joy of joys)

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Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha!

Did you get that job in a Stevenage Game? I always wanted to do that Terminator bit where you walk up to someone who doesn't know you and demand confirmation of their name.

"Stasisesque?"
"Yes?"
"Put this through the till if you want to live."

It'll be great.

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Look your sounding like a stuck record here

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At least my record isn't whining.

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we all know about capt america and that he has a shield but thats not hte point

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Apparently you lot didn't, and it is the damn point. Shields as heroic devices has a pedigree so significant it's mind boggling they didn't put it in at the start of the game like certain other things just to harvest the fanboy subscriptions.

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the point is we do seem to be getting alot of "old hat" add ons picked from the human past even capt americas shield was made from some sci-fi metal so his does not even come close to whats being offerd to us here.

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I wasn't aware the costume designs also came with an extensive metallurgical or material analysis telling you what they're all made out of! I'm sure the energy shield is made out of congealed hopes and dreams. Or maybe bubblegum.
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Whats wrong with picking ideas from now or even the human future that imo would fit better with a super heroe mmo.

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Your opinion flies in the face of....comics. Which are so obsessed with history you're hard pressed to go near them without a member of some ancient pantheon smashing you in the face with an axe or a hammer, provided the rampaging amazons don't catch you first. If you're lucky you'll be saved by a guy inexplicably wielding a bow instead of a high powered rifle.
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There is nothign wrong with shields as a power but just keep in mind that not everyone will want to make a concept or "RP" toon or prance around in atlas in a fashion show like some others want some may want to play the game and have powers etc that look cool and do some damage

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Theres nothing wrong with shields as a power, except all these things I say are wrong with them, and that everyone wanted them but I didn't. Otherwise they're fine. Apart from that stuff. Gotcha.

DAMMIT! Two minutes! Two minutes too late! I thought, "Pain Domination is a set of words just prime for some Sapphic Neko jokes.", and I was two bloody minutes late!