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Quote:The best card that you can buy...Originally Posted by Orion_Energy
Now, for those of you who frequent this board you might recognize me from a thread I posted a few weeks earlier due to constant PC failure when trying to run CoH. Since then, I've solved the problem. However the general consensus was that my graphical chipset was overheating, while the computer itself was not. This was because I had in my new computer not a graphics card but a chipset.
So, I've saved up some money (being 17 and not having a job and all..) and was wondering, what in your recommendation is the best video card to buy? I'm hoping to find one that will allow me to play City of Heroes/Villians in Ultra Mode, as well as play other games such as Team Fortress 2 and Aion without overheating and shutdown problems. I'm looking to spend between 50 to 150 dollars. Any advice here would be really appreciated.. since I don't know much/if anything about computer hardware.
The computer is a brand-new Dell Inspiron (I want to say 5560 series or something like that) if that matters. I tried plugging my video card from my old computer in and it didn't physically fit...
would be the RadeonHD 5970 4gb. But since I seriously doubt you have $1000 hanging around to drop on a graphics card... and it needs Crossfire support to really shine...
If you have $500 to spend on a graphics card, the Nvidia GTX 480 is the most powerful single chip card around... but it puts off near as makes no difference 200 degrees Fahrenheit of heat, and I seriously doubt a Dell 560 comes with a 700 watt+ power-supply.
If you've got $400 to spend on a graphics card, AMD's RadeonHD 5870 is just about as fast as the GTX 480, uses a lot less power, and doesn't pull double duty as an oven.
If you've got $300 to spend on a graphics card, AMD's RadeonHD 5850 is your target.
If you've got $200-$250, RadeonHD 5830
or alternatively, the RadeonHD 4890. Doesn't do DX11 / OpenGL 4.0, but frames per second per resolution, it's the best deal going.
Around the $150-$170 mark you'll find RadeonHD 5770's:
RadeonHD 5750's can be hard for around $130.
You can also find RadeonHD 4870's in this price bracket, but really, if you're going to spend $130 or more, you should really get a card with DirectX 11 / OpenGL 4.0 support.
Then around the $100 mark you'll find the RadeonHD 4850, which is the starting point for Ultra Mode support on AMD/ATi.
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And yes, there's a reason I didn't list any other cards from Nvidia than the GTX 480. If you are spending for Ultimate Power with no consideration as to budget, it's hard to pass up. My personal opinion is that you'd be wasting money on a couple accounts:- First being that while it is more powerful than a RadeonHD 5870, it's not $100 more powerful, it's closer to $5 or $10 more powerful... and if you buy a good 5870 you can overclock that difference away
- Second, you really need a specially designed chassis with good air movement to deal with the sheer amount of heat a GTX 480 puts off. Put this in a normal chassis where the fans have to run at maximum, and you might understand why the card is knicked named Geforce FX 2.0
Outside of the GTX 480, every other card is massively overpriced for performance. While the GTX 470 has dropped down to around $330 if you shop carefully, there's the severe problem that many lower-end board vendors have cut quality corners on the boards to get prices down. Boards known to have a good quality, such as Evga's 1475 model, still rack up near $390. Even the base models are still $40 over a cheap RadeonHD 5850... while being no faster... and also having the same critical problem as the GTX 480. You'll need one hell of a power supply, and the GTX 470 will also approach 200 degrees F under full load.
From there on down... well, you can find Nvidia GTX 260 cards around the $180 mark. Slight problem: they'll be outpaced in real games by the RadeonHD 5750 which is near $50 less... and the Nvidia GTX 2xx line-up lacks DX11 / OpenGL support...
The real big thorn is the RadeonHD 4890. It's a DX10 / OpenGL 3.3 graphics card that you can get around $200. So, on features, it's like the Nvidia GTX 2xx series. On performance... you'd be spending nearly double the RadeonHD 4890's price point to get something competitive from Nvidia's DX 10 / OpenGL 3.2 lineup... the GTX 285.
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So, those are your options... pick your price point, and pick your vendor.
Oh: if you are dead set on buying a card with an Nvidia brand name: buy a card from XFX, Evga, or if you can still find them, BFG.
If you buy a card with an AMD/ATi brand name... do NOT buy anything from Diamond Multimedia. -
Quote:oig.Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
Go ahead, Je--it's not going to stop people from continuing to speculate.
Point.
Okay: Back on the old dial-in green-screen Bulletin Board Systems, it used to be quite an achievement to be the first poster on any raised topic. Back in the days of 4600 or 9600 baud modems (V.27ter, V.32) you'd actually have BBS participants competing to see who could be the first to get the first post to a thread.
Yeah, it's stupid, but when you just dropped a few hundred quid on a brand new modem you could cook eggs on top of, you pretty much wanted to lord your newfound speed it over everybody else that you could.
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The "First-Post" mini-game really found it's niche in the geek oriented news site Slashdot. At first it started out as a small time joke. Somebody managed to get the first post in the thread.
As Slashdot's traffic grew to the levels where it could generate it's own un-intentional DDOS, so did the possibility of landing a first post. So, back in the... I want to say late 90's or early 2000's, you'd actually have people competing to be the first poster on a Slashdot news post.
Again, yes, it was stupid. And annoying. It actually grew to the point of being so annoying that First Post comments are automatically moderated by Slashdot: http://slashdot.org/faq/com-mod.shtml
Note the date on when that was answered: Last Modified: 6/12/00Quote:What's up with "First Post" comments?
"First Post" comments are one of those odd little memetic hiccups that come out of nowhere and run amok. Basically, people with altogether far too much spare time sit and reload Slashdot, hoping that they will get the "First Post" in a discussion. This is one of those things that the moderation system was designed to clean up, and for the most part, it works. "First Post" comments usually get moderated down as off-topic almost instantly.
The First Post After A Red-Name thing we see today on these forums is basically an extension of the old BBS game taken mainstream on Slashdot. -
Quote:... no Calax.Originally Posted by Calaxprimal
I think it originated in the WoW boards, where everyone would instantly rush to leap on the devs posts. They've gotten to the point where they're claiming "First page"
It originated on Slashdot. Did I really need to spell that out? -
Quote:was it Mod08 locking the thread?Originally Posted by TrueMetal
I once had a Red Name be first post after me.
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Short version: May or may not happen.
Exposing patron, epic, and pool powers to the end user requires more changes to the actual processing engine, the graphics display engine, the user-interface engine, and to the animations engine. We were told flat out last year by the developers that further power customization was in the cards, but not till after Going Rogue launches.
Now, we know that the first edition of Power Customization took around 2 years or so to work through. Given that those sections of the engine have been better documented and that the coders now have a better handle on actually modifying / changing the code, making the changes needed for extended power customization should only take 3 or 4 months of dedicated work.
Given that Going Rogue has finally been dated as August 17th, we probably could expect further power customization sometime in 2011.
The work MAY NOT happen though because we don't know what the long term plans of CoH are. We know that NCSoft has basically committed itself to the franchise for the foreseeable future, pumping money into the project giving Paragon Studios quite a bit of free reign in working the game.
What we don't know is whether or not NCSoft wants Paragon Studios to go ahead and start work on CoH2, or if NCSoft will greenlight 4 or 5 more expansions to the existing game.
If NCSoft and Paragon Studios agree to work towards a sequel game, set maybe after or during The Storm, but with a completely new processing engine, it's possible that we'll only see such improvements in the "next generation" processing client, rather than the existing processing client. -
Quote:did you do the -useTexEnvCombine combine I posted earlier?Originally Posted by kassfam
I have updated my drivers just right now. same problem. =/
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go to C:\Program Files (x86)\City of Heroes\
Delete C:\Program Files (x86)\City of Heroes\cityofheroes.exe
Delete C:\Program Files (x86)\City of Heroes\cityofheroes.old
Run launcher. -
yeah, sounds like a driver issue if the screen's going out of wack.
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Quote:hey, at least it was from this year :POriginally Posted by Mega_Jamie
Necromacy is also a mastermind powerset, not a forum powerset
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Quote:then there ain't no way in hell you have ultra-mode options maxed on that graphics card.Originally Posted by THE_PAIN
Currently running @ 1680*1050 on a Samsung SyncMaster 2253bw
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Quote:...Originally Posted by Ice_Wall
Who was the first to be "first post after a red-name." I've been curious to know where that all started, when, and if we know who started it.
does the website /. mean anything to you? -
Quote:woah woah woah wait a minute there. As per the Weapons of Sack Destruction Treaty we cannot allow Sackthingy's to have access to armored suits. We'll have to request that you surrender any and all documents related to the construction of mechanical assist combat suits for Sackthingys.Originally Posted by CaptainAmazing
<wonders by with Iron Man Sack Armor schematics> HEY! Whats with all this bouncing, stop that it's quite silly! O_O
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Breaking News :: Breaking News
Kitten Action News has sent a reporter undercover to check out Paragon Studio's offices for any signs of the reclusive Back Alley Brawler. After several hours of investigating the cafeteria for properly cooked salmon, our reported scouted the hallways of the studio, following a loud yelling noise. Unfortunately we only have audio of what our reporter witnessed, and a description of the ongoing events. While prowling through the facility our reporter found a bare hallway with warning signs plastered all over. In the middle of the hallway a large steel door was set into the wall with a sign overhead indicting the animation department. In front of the door was a tiny figure with a brilliant blonde hair doing it's best to get inside the steel door. What you are about to hear... willl chill you to the bone... play the tape...
"GOLDEN GIRL CAN HAS ANIMATED HAIR YES? GOLDEN GIRL GETS ANIMATED HAIR SOON? YOU DO ANIMATED HAIR FOR GOLDEN GIRL? WHEN GOLDEN GIRL GET ANIMATED HAIR???"
Our reporter talked with some of the local wildlife and it seems that the Back Alley Brawler has been held captive by this... Golden Girl... inside the the animation studio. Squirrels report that they carry in baskets of food and water, and that the siege has been going on for quite some time.
More details will be made available in the coming time. This is Kitten Action News, signing off. -
Most of what needs to be said has been said.
Mobile chipsets are generally way down on power from their desktop cousins. For example, the Mobile GTX 285 from Nvidia only does around 38,400 Megatexels. In shader performance, that's less powerful than a GTS 250.
Of course, performance in a GPU is more than just the theoretical limits of how many Texels or Pixels a graphics card can push. What matters is how efficient a graphics card is. How much of that theoretical power can the card actually tap. Case in point: the RadeonHD 4850. It's on-paper rendering power is quite a bit below the GTS 250, with a slightly lower Pixel fill-rate and nearly half the Texel fill-rate. Yet, in actual games, the RadeonHD 4850 can keep up with and best the 9800 GTX / GTS 250.
As of right now, from a purely theoretical performance point of view, the only laptop GPU's that could run CoH's ultra mode would be:
GTX 260m
GTX 280m
GTX 285m
RadeonHD Mobile 4850
RadeonHD Mobile 4860
RadeonHD Mobile 4870
RadeonHD Mobile 5830
RadeonHD Mobile 5850
RadeonHD Mobile 5870
You won't find any of these graphics chipsets under the $1000 mark new.
You can find a Recertified system with a GTX 260 if you look around.
For something new that will run Ultra Mode? You'd be looking at $1400+ for a Radeon, and a lot more for a Geforce card as they've been pulled from the market. -
Quote:pretty much this.Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight
EU Windows Updater: ftp://client.cityofheroes.com/EU/CohUpdater.EU.exe
EU Mac Updater: ftp://client.cityofheroes.com/EU/MAC...staller_EU.dmg
US Windows Updater: ftp://client.cityofheroes.com/US/CohUpdater.exe
US Mac Updater: ftp://client.cityofheroes.com/US/MAC...staller_US.dmg
Try redownloading it, saving it to your desktop. Once it's finished downloading, try running it by double clicking the file on your desktop.
Save the file
THEN RUN it.
If you are using a WinNT 6 platform, Microsoft has made several security related changes to try and stop the spread of malicious software. One of these changes is the prevention of running various executable files straight from a browser download. -
Quote:*watches from the sidelines and nibbles on a chocolate catnip candy bar*Originally Posted by VexXxa
*watches as the baby circus elephant jumps into the middle of the tussle pile and sends everyone straight up to the ceiling of the Rookery*
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Rumor has it that Pohsyb and Television found BaB's making little ASCII animations in the game's source code and decided that the best solution was to lock BaB's away in the basement.
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Quote:They don't. Although I could use a job.Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight
Sai... how much does AMD pay you? I could use some money for a 360
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Quote:If we say no, will you believe us?Originally Posted by plainguy
You can PM the Devs ?
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Quote:Oh look. Sai's posting in a thread with an nvidia card. Who wants to lay odds Sai explodes again about how Nvidia's line-up of cards are rip offs!Originally Posted by THE_PAIN
Will a Nvidia 9800 1GB GT get me ultra mode maxed out? Right now Im on a nVidia 8800 GTS 512 and its all maxed out except ambient oclusions are set for (slight) and AA at x4.
MB: GA-EP35C-DS3R
CPU: Wolfdale e8400
Ram: 4GB
OS: Vista 64
Okay, right now, if you are maxing all Ultra Mode options on an 8800 GTS I'm guessing you are running in a really low resolution, probably 1024*768 or maybe 1280*1024, but no higher.
I say this because a Geforce GTS 250, which is basically an overclocked version of the chip behind the 8800, struggles to do Ultra Mode at low settings in 1680*1050 against an A64 6000 which also carries a 3ghz clockspeed.
In this low resolution zone, yes, a 9800 GT would give you about the same performance figures as an 8800 GTS. It would actually be a little bit lower as the 9800 GT's performance numbers are slightly lower than the 8800 GTS, but it'd probably only be a couple frames difference. -
Quote:32bit: "C:\Program Files\CoH\CohUpdater.exe" -useTexEnvCombineOriginally Posted by kassfam
Yeah, the game works smoothly, but how do i fix it!!!
64bit: "C:\Program Files (x86)\CoH\CohUpdater.exe" -useTexEnvCombine
Modifying your startup desktop shortcut to this should force you back into a lower shader mode.
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=220618
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*sighs*Quote:Get an actual graphics card and download the drivers. I recommend Nvidia.
If. You. Buy. an. Nvidia. Graphics. Card. Right. Now. You. Are. Getting. Ripped. Off.
Period. Stop. End of story.
The only place Nvidia is anywhere near price / performance competitive with AMD offerings is in the Geforce GTS 250. It's $100 versions can keep pace with AMD cards that cost $100.
That being said, there's a reason that XFX and Evga models still command $130-$150+ price points: pretty much every other vendor cut costs on build quality to get a GTS 250 card that low.
BFG, one of the vendors that would not cut corners on build quality has only recently left the graphics card market.
Now, if you want to tell people to go out and buy a card with shoddy build quality; buy a card without the features of a competitor in the same price bracket; or pay an outrageously inflated price to get the same performance as a competitor; just to have the Nvidia brand name. Go right ahead. -
just guessing...
Intel Integrated graphics? -
Quote:actually... I sorta added grenade in after putting "4" "attacks" and went... wait a second... there's another AOE!Originally Posted by Nethergoat
I have to laugh moderately hard at calling the grenade "very powerful".
And while I personally like Ignite, it is highly situational and only qualifies as "very powerful" if you've got the foe immobilized or held.
I agree with your basic point that sets are balanced against themselves.
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Quote:I'm personally running against a Phenom 965 and 5770, and... well... http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=219534Originally Posted by Shizuniza
So is there any general consensus on how well a phenom II x4 955 coupled with a radeon 5770 would handle this game now? I'm probably gonna just dropkick the old computer I've been using and thought this would be a good enough economical (no i7 for now at least) choice to last awhile and play this game. The mobo (probably an 890), RAM, PSU, all that I will work out later. For now, I'm curious if this is a better than acceptable combo to build a new system around.
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another thing thing to consider is that each set is balanced against itself, not against other sets direct powers.
Assault Rifle gets 5 very powerful mob attacks: Buckshot, M30 Grenade, Flamethrower, Ignite, and Full Auto.
Archery is primarily single target damage, with only 3 AOE's to it's credit: Explosive Arrow, Fistful of Arrows, Rain of Arrows.
Granted, M30 Grenade and Explosive Arrow do pretty much the same thing... but Assault Rifle gets the Grenade at 6, while Archery gets Explosive Arrow at 12... and come on... lets be honest, at 12 you are looking at a sub-travel power...
And Beanbag and Stunning Arrow do pretty much the same thing. But, Assault Rifle gets Beanbag at level 8, while Archery does not get that stun until level 26.
Assault Rifle also gets an additional attack, as the level 8 slot that's an aim on everything but Dual Pistols, is the aforementioned stun, Beanbag.
So... Assault Rifle. Superior overall mob damage and more attacks are why it's nuke has lower damage than Archery.