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I don't understand how the devs can justify nerfing SS/SJ in the PvE game. For the arena, nerf the crap out of whatever you want, it concerns me very little. But why mess with us non PvPers? C'mon, SS/SJ were overpowered? You shouldn't attack while invisible? Aren't they changing superior invis so we can attack with it on?
I curse this frelling arena, I hate PvP and i hate how it has poisoned the game.
Well, we had a good run, a year of pretty darn good MMO. Like all things MMO, it goes the way of the PvP "balance" fiasco.
<plays Taps sadly>

GW? Ah, just a cheap shot in a moment of anger. I may try it.

Now i'm waiting for the flow of "its only on test" and "You can't prove these nerfs are related to PvP".

Man! Go live with the damn arena already, the longer its on test, the more nerfs you release.


*Ahem* Calmer now.

This sucks.

I just looked.. They nerfed SS and SJ

*&%$# this freakin' arena! Damn PvP!! Damn it all!

I knew this PvP business was going to be the worst thing for CoH yet. Don't add content, don't fix ongoing problems, keep nerfing.

So Guild Wars is out tomorrow?

Wait a minute...Arent the travel powers being changed in PvP only? Not PvE???

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I think people misunderstand why developers interfere and make changes. I could care less how fast someone earns influence. But I am concerned when someone is doing somethingg "unfun" in order to gain levels quickly and thereby bypassing other, more interesting content. Admittedly, "fun" and "unfun" are completely subjective, so people can disagree.

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Statesman, why would anyone be herding wolves if the content is so much fun? Do you block people from using the elevator in office buildings because, in your opinion, the stairs are more fun?
Don't you think its a little illogical that you have to force people to play your "fun" content? If its so much fun, wouldn't people have never started repeating the WW missions?
No offence, Jack, but I don't buy it. Your comment here basically says, "You're going to do what I think is fun, and you'll like it!"
Well, chalk another one up for the PL whiners. How about our lvl, and what we spend time doing is delegated to us, so we are having "fun"?
-Oh wait, its already going that way.

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This really reminds me of drug and alcohol prohibition. The law makes changes, people figure a way around them, and still do what they want to do.
There always has been, always will be drugs, guns crime, and prostitution. No matter what the establishment does to try and stop these things, they will never eradicate them completely. Same as PLing. People do what they want to do, regardless of how loud the mewling PL whiners cry their eyes out. Time the missions people use, I'll herd another mission. Hell, I don't even need them to stack to herd and kill mass mobs.
The devs have made a bad decision here. Minus 5 stars for their short-sightedness.
I wonder if they ever thought that the reason people PL is because the game is a tough grind at 30+. Maybe if the rewards for playing "the way we say!" were more substantial, the PLing will go down.
TomTrompinski, I have a prediction too:
We will PL, we will find a way, and the only reason it "hurts" other players is because the whiners whine, and voila! A timed AV mission.
Maybe if the busy bodies would play their own game instead of mine, no one would feel the hammerfist of the devs on their game.
Whiners, you brought any failer of this mission due to time constraints on yourselves. Maybe I won't herd the wolf mission, ok! I'll herd another.
I can't wait to see the PL crybabies whine when they miss an accolade because of a situation they completely are responsible for.

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Whiners? Someone get this baby a bottle. The people have spoken, and they told you to STHU. Of course you won't, you'll cry like a stuck pig. But that's ok, really.

The fact that you bring up legalized drinking and prohibition just shows that you're so far from a clue, the light from clue won't reach you for 100 years.

Enjoy!

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Bah!

This really reminds me of drug and alcohol prohibition. The law makes changes, people figure a way around them, and still do what they want to do.
There always has been, always will be drugs, guns crime, and prostitution. No matter what the establishment does to try and stop these things, they will never eradicate them completely. Same as PLing. People do what they want to do, regardless of how loud the mewling PL whiners cry their eyes out. Time the missions people use, I'll herd another mission. Hell, I don't even need them to stack to herd and kill mass mobs.
The devs have made a bad decision here. Minus 5 stars for their short-sightedness.
I wonder if they ever thought that the reason people PL is because the game is a tough grind at 30+. Maybe if the rewards for playing "the way we say!" were more substantial, the PLing will go down.
TomTrompinski, I have a prediction too:
We will PL, we will find a way, and the only reason it "hurts" other players is because the whiners whine, and voila! A timed AV mission.
Maybe if the busy bodies would play their own game instead of mine, no one would feel the hammerfist of the devs on their game.
Whiners, you brought any failer of this mission due to time constraints on yourselves. Maybe I won't herd the wolf mission, ok! I'll herd another.
I can't wait to see the PL crybabies whine when they miss an accolade because of a situation they completely are responsible for.

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Well, I hope they do NOT nerf you. I'm a mind contrller. A poor schlep mind controller. My first toon. I'm frsutrated as hell, and really in awe at what fire controllers can do. I wish I could do half te damage you do. I just don't want to get there by the devs reducing your damage!!!!!!!!

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Unfortunately, I read the tanker threads and have friends who are tankers so I'm thinking we are gonna get the bat along with illus.

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Most of the suggestions for mind controllers (conspicuously given by ppl that don't have on) amounted to "improve this, but weaken that", which of course, is a net ZERO. I don't know why the world wants us to suck.

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I don't want you to suck, I have played with a few MC, and as far as I am concerned its not a bad thing, just when I team with MC, I adjust my playing differently to go along with theirs, but I adjust to whoever I'm playing with, different friends, different styles. I do not want them to nerf my imps, just make the other types stronger, bring them up to speed. Why nerf when you can improve?

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Unfortunately, history does not point to strengthening the others. Every time the devs look at an AT, its striking down the good ones to suck like the others.
Lvl your controllers now, fellow illusion and fire, cause soon the hand of dev will be slapping us down. I seriously doubt the lesser sets (MC comes to mind), will probley see some small improvment, but fire and illusion are getting the nerf. Of course I don't know this for fact, but based on the devs previous actions, its always nerf the good sets to "be in line" with the rest.
The nerf bat cometh

States, nothing to see here, controllers are fine..Hey look over there!
<hides my favorite controller in the closet>

Man, everytime I'm having fun with an AT, they get "looked at"

Sigh.

As an event, I give it a D minus.
It was ok, kinda fun to have dev-sanctioned power leveling for my alts, but otherwise, pretty lame imo.
I do like having giant foes to fight though, thats fun.

Blade...I can't...stop looking at ...your avatar...mesmerized...

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Fly really is terrible for combat (due to the end usage and the accuracy debuff) and isn't all that great for travel either (it's sloooow).

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I was curious about this. Do people fight with Fly running? I usually switch to Hover while attacking and then switch back to Fly only to change where I'm Hovering.

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They don't if they're smart. That's kind of the problem to me. Teleport aside (since it isn't a toggle and has its own problems), SS and SJ are both useful in combat, as are their prerequisite powers, which can be used at the same time.

Fly isn't just "not useful." It's a downright disadvantage in combat... it has a huge endurance drain and a severe accuracy penalty.

My fear: people here are saying "please fix Fly, it isn't as good as the other good travel powers." I'm afraid Geko is going to hear, instead "Please nerf SJ/SS... they're better than fly."

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Its a sad day when we as players have to be paranoid of any dev paying attention to a power or AT. In this game, unfortunately, this usually means a nerf to the others to "bring them in line", as opposed to fixing the weak ones.

I would have been willing to wait for as long as it took.
States said they wanted a really really really smooth launch when they delayed it.
I'm happy they wanted to avoid the map server nightmare of I2, but hey, I’ll wait 2 more weeks to ensure there isn't major bugs(touch of fear?), and placate the masses a little first.

Speaking of the boss changes, what will this mean for the respec trial? With a team of 5 or so, there are tons of bosses in the reactor, with the bosses dmg/HP 50% increase, won't the respec become extremely hard again?

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From memory...

We changed Regen, saw that it wasn't working, changed it again to its current state.

We rolled back minion, lt. hit point increases.

We rolled back a change in Tanker burn.

We made numerous tweaks to the Ancillary power sets.

That's just from memory.

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Thank you Statesman.

Oh...I was expecting the players data to be ignored, so im not surprised. That "its only test server" claim is pretty much bunk.
Im looking forward to trying it out. But there have been no changes from test before it went live? I was trying to scan the update notes..

People have been testing and making comments, complaints and so on for what, a month? I'm curious, did anything that was on the test server get changed before it went live? Im at work, so gotta wait 6 or so hours to see.
But all the people who flamed "whiners" would always say "Its just the test server!" As the answer to anyone who had a Criticism.
So, did anything at all get changed, or were all player's testing for naught?
eg. Invul changes, boss changes, etc..

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the best thing to come out of canada is Elisha Cuthbert

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mmmm.... Elisha.......mmmm..... see, Canada IS good. Plus we've got great beer if you americans want to stop drinking that watery stuff

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It's been my experience that it's very important for the egos of people from Eruopean countries and Canada that they believe that all the beer from their countries is good and all the beer in the US is bad. I think it comes from a deep seeded need to feel superior.

I used to argue, but then I realized that I might do enormous psychological harm to our important allies if I knocked this important mental underpinning out of their fragile self esteem.

Now, whenever the whole beer thing comes up, I just nod politely with a concerned look on my face.

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Gotta chime in here, i may be biased, but with all due respect...Our Canadian beer is better than most, (not all), but most American beer. Not only that, but I think you'll find that when as a people who in many areas are snowed in watching hockey (please come back! ) for several months each year, we have plenty of time to gauge a good beer!
In all seriousness, I think most people are comparing the large brewerys, where as, I think we all know, micro-brewerys are where a real beer drinker finds his muse..
Molson Canadian=generic, tastless beer. Bud, Coors, and so on=generic, tastless beer.

Not to mention that our beer in Canada tends to average a minimum 5% alcohol and higher. Usually the American beers are 3-5%.

I'm no fanboy, but thats pretty cool, States. I appreciate you talking with the community.

Why do you think a butt-kissing thread is any more valid than a critical one?
Both are a waste of space, IMO.

Im really dissappointed by this. The mods have helped me to enjoy this game much more. Also, there has been some extrordinary work by the community on some of these, (stores on the map, looping sounds). This seems like a ham fisted action IMO.