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Quote:I like this. /thumbsup
been "Ping"ing the market
As for the Tweedles, you can lead an Elk (and his long lost conjoined twin) to water, but you can't make it drink. -
Quote:Me and anyone who follows my advice. My public advice. My willing and open and proven advice.Originally Posted by SonicBang
Who can afford that???
That's insulting.Quote:Yea more and more people buy inf I am even tempted to buy some cause I want a top edge toon myself.
Just out of curiosity, do you understand the term "overpriced"? Here, lemme help (per dictionary.com):Quote:Purples are crazy overpriced, 100mill-200 mill for one IO...
overprice - To put too high a price or value on.
Now, what's the point of me putting the definition in here? It's because attitudes like yours are causing it to be, in your opinion, overpriced.
Just to make sure I'm clear, this is the issue. You feel a unique, ultra-rare, unnecessary item is overpriced in a market where the buyers, like yourself, determine its value and price. This makes you unhappy because you desperately want one.
I can use anecdotal examples like the fact that my best overall character contains 1 set of purples (softcapped SR Scrapper with Aid Self and Tough). I can point out that those "overpriced" items are also equally "overpriced" anytime you sell one. I can point out that money falls like rain in this game. But I won't because I'll simply pose a question to you instead.
How much should a purple sell for? Along that line, how much should an Absolute Amazement sell for? Armageddon? How about a Numina's Convalescence, arguably more valuable than some purples? Before you answer, let me pose a couple others.
Should you get to decide how much they're worth? If not you, then who? Can I (my prices may differ from yours)? It seems to me that the best way would be to let the consumers decide, no? Now, how would you suggest that they do that?
Oh, and because Elk's crazy, I do have 2 accounts, but I don't farm, I don't exploit, hell, at this point, I barely qualify as playing. -
Quote:lolwut?Originally Posted by Felecia_Divine
If you were half decent people you could have said "You Are Wrong About People Fel!" but i would like to hear someone say Let's Work On Something Together or Let's Have More Fun Events. I am constantly trying to get people to help each other (so why does everyone find this so offensive?).
People pointing out how you're wrong? You're right, I wouldn't put up with it. I'd stop being ******* wrong.Quote:Originally Posted by Felecia_Divine
I am sorry but not one of you would accept or put up with the way the rest of you are acting, so why should i!
Don't you have like a bunch of divisions? Okay, then this message makes sense.Quote:Originally Posted by Felecia_Divine
The EXACT MESSAGE i got from Cherry-2000 was "i am dropping 3 AOW divisions because we do not see very many messages in coalition and want to make room for some friends sg's"
Mine wouldn't. Stop ******* talking like you know me, son.Quote:Originally Posted by Felecia_Divine
There is no-one or supergroup that would NOT take offence to this kind of message, so for all of you to attack my character, shows a lack of your own, i am trying to look out for the best interests of our group.
...you have a "coalition manager"? ...and it's you? ...and the other 6 people haven't asked you to step down yet? ...are they drunk?Quote:Originally Posted by Felecia_Divine
The difference between me and all of you is i back my words with actions: If the other 6 leaders of AOW demand it, i will step down as coalition manager, something none of you would do.
Isn't the community no longer invited to any of your events? Didn't you do a really ****** job of inspiring the community to come to your events to begin with? Sounds more like a WANNABECOMMUNITY SG to me.Quote:Originally Posted by Felecia_Divine
ALL-OUT-WAR is the only true COMMUNITY SG in existance.
I'm sure I'm just dense, but can you explain to me how having your other inter-SG divisions coalitioned grows your SG? I apologize if this should be obvious, because it just seems ******* stupid to me.Quote:Originally Posted by Felecia_Divine
...having non-AOW divisions in coalition does not help our own sg grow. Then people complain we are not big enough, you can't have it both ways.
...it will continue to get posted in until everyone else gets tired of laughing at how unbalanced you are?Quote:Originally Posted by Felecia_Divine
The reason i asked the mods to cancel the threads should be obvious. The devs have always tried to clear memory space. This thread is done so....................................
Baby, I'm having a blast.Quote:Originally Posted by Felecia_Divine
We are ALL here to have fun, so let's go out and have FUN!
Ignored who? Who are you helping? People setting standards for your medication imbalance?Quote:Originally Posted by Felecia_Divine
I just noticed cat's post: Odd you would recommend sg's that have ignored them all this time. You want to recruit but not to actually help them, which is why AOW exists in the first place. -
Okay, ya'll were a little early, but that'll sustain me for tomorrow. Grats to those who are free from Fecrazy. Good luck with wherever ya'll land next.
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This drama made the forums worth it today.
Moar tomorrow plz. -
Quote:Did I miss something here?Originally Posted by athena_shadow
We used to be able to crow about stomping folks in base raids, but we won't see that again until I10 or I11 comes out.
...twice?
I honestly thought everyone caved PoN's **** in.Quote:Originally Posted by The_Bronx
I swear I was right there with you, J'.
Especially on the base raid thing.
I could swear Twftw caved all of the Protectors **** in.
You were the only large Sg actually willing to base raid, though. So, kudos.
UHB was willing to (at least for awhile). They were a blast to raid with.
Woah, woah, woah. Let's not use me as the shining beacon of good leadership. I'm just a ******* penguin, and our SG's only got like 12 actual players in it. It's more like a treehouse club than anything else. A treehouse where people roll around in piles of moneez, so kind of a big treehouse, but still just a simple 14 bed/3 bath (poor planning on my part, my bad) igloo. What? There ain't any ******* trees in Antarctica.Quote:Originally Posted by Gideon_F
If Ping wanted he could convert his influence to Prestige and dbl the total of both Stryke Force and PoN and have enough left over to have UHB beat too. Thing is Ping isn't concentrating on an imaginary accomplishment. The bases are equipped and stylish so why do they need 50 billion extra influence? That is the difference between a guy that HAS accomplished something and a guy that THINKS he has accomplished something. The good leaders actually do things for their SG while the bad leaders set up accomplishments that do nothing for their SG members.
As for purchasing decisions, I must apologize, but I am too lazy to attempt to beat anyone at prestige. I could probably buy some high-ranking SG for S&Gs, but meh, it seems like too much of a virtual dick measuring contest for me. At least, so far.
However...
...this I cannot disagree with.Quote:Originally Posted by Gideon_F
Never doubt a Pingu if he/she is trying to prove a point.
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Heh, this thread should be epic by the time the event rolls around in...3 months and 12 days.
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Quote:Ya gotta have faith-uh.Originally Posted by Celestial_Lord
Hey, I paid $350 to see George Michael in concert last year, so $80 doesn't seem too bad to me.
Of course, I live on the other side of the continent, so I won't be able to make it. -
I'll be there, even if I'm pissed about tickets being $80 the entire time.
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Dear CoH,
Penguin - You have worked off 1,000,000,000 debt. This week.
Sincerely,
All penguins -
Better than you.
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Wait, wait, wait.
When the **** did I start supporting the idea that Tanks were necessary? Who the **** did they actually think they were talking about? What a ******* *******.
OTOH, I will admit to being old school. I walked to school. Not in the snow cuz it was ******* Texas, but dammit, it was still uphill in both directions. And lava. Yeah, lava. Don't question my stories, *******. -
She drives me crazy,
Like no one else.
She drives me crazy,
And I can't help myself.
Oh, those Fine Young Cannibals. Little did they ever know that they would be in a financial planning post.
Before I go much further, I'm getting tired of typing out long names when abbreviations work, so if you can't figure out any of the abbreviations, ask and I shall explain.
So first, to review, I sent you all after BotZs again. So, how's it turned out?
Allow me to manipulate double XP weekend to make myself look like a genius.
BotZ KB Redux Crafted
Last 5 expected price then: 60M
Last 5 expected price now: 100M
I'm a friggin' genius!
BotZ Travel/Range Crafted
Last 5 expected price then: 8M
Last 5 expected price now: 10M
I'm a friggin' genius!
BotZ Travel/Range/End Crafted
Last 5 expected price then: 10M
Last 5 expected price now: 25M
I'm a friggin'...you get the point.
Anyway, due to double XP, everything went up massively. Enough tooting my horn (hey...heeeeeey...don't go there), on we go to this week's niche, and this one, I guarantee, will piss some marketeers off if you come down on it hard.
So, what niche is it that drives marketeers crazy? What niche contains pieces that will make profits for marketeers of all salaries?
In a word, it's Touch of Death.
Okay, that's three words, but you get the idea.
But Ping! How do I know which ones make the money in that set?!?!?
You like how I include your expected feedback there? Yeah, I knew you would. Anyway, the simple answer is....drumroll...every single piece of Touch of Death makes money.
First, we'll start off small.
ToD: A/D Level 40
Last 5 Crafted
5,000,000
5,000,000
5,000,000
6,000,000
6,000,000
Now, no obvious standouts as buy points or lowballs. That means a)no one is successfully lowballing this item at the moment and b)we don't know where any lowball prices are. There are only 3 bidding and 14 for sale, so we're obviously not alone in this niche, but the small amount of outstanding bids tells us that we could probably risk a lowball bid. Before determining how low we should place that bid, let's go check out the recipe prices.
Last 5 Recipes
333,333
3,000,000
300,005
1,000,000
1,000,000
Now, this is interesting. First, it appears the lowball marketeer bid is the middle one. The most recent winning bid appears to be someone just slightly outbidding the marketeer. Marketeers rarely use a solid string of numbers, so it's probably someone else, but not guaranteed.
So, what should we do?
Well, I would put in a bid for 2 recipes at a sig number just above 333,333. That would get me some pieces to work with, but the small number would make sure I don't get stuck if the crafteds crash. I would also put in a lowball on the crafteds at just over 1M. While we don't know the lowballs that currently reside there, we can tell that with crafting cost and salvage cost, it'll cost us about 1M to craft a recipe, so I want my lowball to be about the same. This piece has no rare salvage, so its crafting cost is kind of low. Only a profit of about 3.5M per sale, but for the beginner, that's nothing to sneeze at. Enjoy.
ToD: Chance for NE Dmg Level 40
Last 5 Crafted
11,000,000
11,000,000
11,000,000
11,000,000
11,000,000
Again, no lowball showing.
Last 5 Recipes
2,500,000
3,000,000
2,500,000
2,500,000
2,000,666
The last one's the lowball, though the 2.5M seems to be hanging around at the moment. Either way, with the inclusion of 2 rare salvage pieces in the crafting, you can expect to make about 4M in profit per sale.
ToD: D/R Level 40
Last 5 Crafted
10,000,000
10,000,000
10,000,000
12,000,000
12,000,000
Again, no lowball showing.
Last 5 Recipes
300,000
1,000,000
300,000
288,888
500,000
Now, the lowball is probably the 288,888, and the 300K is probly someone just trying to grab a couple for profit and move on. I bolded 4 of the 5 because, simply put, you're gonna make money with any of them. A rare salvage in the craft means investment would be about 2M, so expect a profit of about 7M per sale. If I was going to lowball the crafted, I wouldn't go above 2.5M.
Okay, time for some big dogs. These are ones that are favorites of marketeers, and if you've got the cash to enter the game, you'll be swimming with some real moneymakers.
ToD: D/E Level 40
Last 5 Crafted
30,000,000
8,000,000
40,000,000
30,000,000
30,000,000
Ooh, ooh, we found a lowball. What a lowball it is, huh? So, now we know this person made a TON off this lowball, but the key is to figure out time vs. earnings. How long was it probably sitting there? A while, but it was worth it. I'd definitely sit one out around 10M and see if I can't pick up a lowball for myself over the next week. It's a free 15M inf if I do.
Last 5 Recipes
11,111,111
11,554,433
13,000,001
11,554,433
11,554,433
Remember when I said marketeers don't use all the same number? Well, there's a first time for everything. Notice that someone else's pricepoint was consistently beating the all 1s, but it appears they ran out of cash. However, they'll be back soon, I'm sure. I'd try to work a pricepoint just above theirs. If you make it work, it's about 13M profit per sale.
ToD: D/E/R Level 40
Last 5 Crafted
38,000,000
38,000,000
35,000,000
35,000,000
35,000,000
No lowball, but big numbers guarantee some are present. Currently 8 bidding and 7 for sale, so there's healthy competition.
Last 5 Recipes
15,000,000
15,655,555
15,500,000
15,500,000
15,255,555
So, here, we see a marketeer moving their price point. Their original point was the 255, but someone showed up and bought a couple at 15.5M even. Thus, the marketeer moved their pricepoint to the 655. However, it looks like they ran out of funds, so someone picked one up a little cheaper. I'd play with the expectation that the marketeer doesn't have a pricepoint out there right now. However, I'd keep an eye out for if that changes. Expected profit of about 19M per sale.
ToD: A/D/E Level 40
Last 5 Crafted
60,000,000
60,000,000
50,000,000
50,000,000
50,000,000
Again, no lowball, and when prices are this high, I definitely will want to leave a lowball in. Let's check the recipes.
Last 5 Recipes
21,111,111
21,111,111
21,111,111
30,000,000
20,111,111
This is real deal. The profit looks to be in the range of 30M per sale, and there's definitely competition present. I'd use this information to set my lowball at approximately 24M on the crafteds, and here, it's time to swim with the sharks. These marketeers will respond to any pressure on their pricepoints, so be up to speed with yours. For the amount it's worth, it's also worth the trouble.
Now, hopefully you haven't TL;DRed the rest of this post because it contains some important information. Namely, would I title the thread about being driven crazy if I didn't mean it?
Touch of Death is an extremely sensitive niche. Not that many people play with the set, even though mroe should, so changes in pricing are noticeable and can result in massive crashes from time to time. Have no fear because, if you're smart and use the information I've provided here, you can make a lot of money on ToDs. Just keep that tidbit in the back of your brain though. If you buy 5 or 6 and think you can guarantee selling them, it may take you weeks to unload them without taking a loss of some kind. Be gentle. It's the only way to make this niche really work. -
Quote:Yup, you meet the requirement.Originally Posted by ElectroHawk
Can I be part of the Club to?
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You're quite welcome, and welcome to the club.
Speaking of which, I need to work up a new post tomorrow. Hmm, what to recommend... -
That is a beautiful, beautiful bloody time.
Gatling gun is totally cheating though. -
Quote:QFT.Originally Posted by Ice_Ember
She needs some Blue Bell Ice Cream and I bet she would change her mind.
I miss that **** badly. -
Silly Alan. Misspelling his name like that.
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Iscariot - 46.05--->46.95
Covert Pingu - 21.9--->22.2
G/f's new Scrapper, Tiny Fists of Doom - 1--->21.8
I'm happy with that. -
Quote:I would expect that's a long, long list as opposed to a single thing.
So that's why I never get laid. -
Quote:The hits just keep on coming!Originally Posted by ELF_STALKER
Honestly this new forums system and look sucks donkey %&*. Its keeping me away from teh forums cause it real annoying to look. Why fix something that had no problems and look better then the new.
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Quote:Server - IssueOriginally Posted by Tabrok
Seriously. What is going on? Some kind of explanation as to why the servers suck would be appreciated.
I'm getting mapserved on a nightly basis. Lag is constant. Rubberbanding is expected now. When I don't get lag it's like I'm playing a whole new game.
And it's not just me. HUNDREDS of people, all over the world that love this game have the same ISSUES.
I'm not some whiny fanboi. I am a PAYING CUSTOMER. Fix your product, or I will take my money, and potentially your JOBS, somewhere else.
To all players tired of lag: Post your server and issues here.
Virtue - all of the problems above. AND ON DOUBLE XP WEEKEND. I SAY RE-DO DOUBLE XP WEEKEND.
Champion - Some dumb piece of [censored] made a thread whining about how servers crash and demands back the $0.50 this weekend was worth to him. He then spammed that thread on every forum.
Devs, please look in to rectifying this issue. Thank you. -
Old Kat is old.
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Dumb European.
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Quote:Liez. The only thing you do with the quickness is finish.Originally Posted by BlackAmaranth
I was able to hop right on all other server and begin playing with the quickness.
Some were laggy, but at least I was able to sign on.
Champion is the only one I've not been able to sign on directly to.