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It sounds like the morality was clearly signposted, so there was no dnager of the game "tricking" you into being good or evil.

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Actually I often felt ME 'tricked' me into doing things I hadn't planned. I often chose a response when talking to someone based on the text example of what I was going to say only for the words that came out of my mouth to bare little if any relation to the tone of the example, which would lead the conversation off on a tangent to where I wanted it to go.

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As for what morality the system would be based on - it'd be normal human morality - stuff like murder = evil, helping people = good.

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I know I'll regret quoting this but anyway...

Whose human morality are we talking about? Depending on where you come from, if you believe in a religion and what religion it is, and a thousand and one other factors will define what an individual counts as human morality (and I do know that you believe that human morality transcends these things iirc the last time this subject arrived on these boards).

Does murder and capital punishment amount to the same thing in normal human morality? Helping people doesn't necessarily equal good, it depends on your reasons for helping someone and what you're helping them do. If you help someone for financial recompense is that a good act? Is helping to mug someone good? Is helping someone commit euthanasia good?

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Yeah, I'd be happy for a system like that - but would it be fair in general?
Would CoV players, some of who say they're not treated the same as CoH players, really be very happy that they'd have to work much harder in the going rogue system than CoH players becoming Villains?

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May not be fair but it's realistic, play Fabel of KOTOR for a bit, it's a lot harder to remain good in those games than to fall to evil.

Being good is about making sacrifices, giving up the things we want in order to help others, being evil is about giving into those desires, thus by reasoning it is easier to become evil than to remain good.

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I can't speak for Fable but I found in games Kotor and particularly Mass Effect it was quite difficult to sway away from good into evil. Of course it was easier in Kotor as with one fell swoop late in the game you could erase all the good you'd done in the game to that point and suddenly become the embodiment of all evil. Mass Effect I found quite hard to be as bad I wanted without becoming the biggest a*s in the universe to achieve it.

It generally all sounds like good stuff.

To me the most interesting part is suggesting that new alts would start as neutral and become heroes or villains through their actions, though probably in my case by the time I got to 50 I'd still be a damn neutral fence sitter.

I found the chart I was referring to earlier. Assuming it's accurate, and current, it looks like freaks are one of only several groups who give better than average xp. I hate clocks, can we have them melted down?

on my last 1-50 I think I must have done a total of maybe 10 freak missions the whole time, made up from playing with friends, soloing and PuGs. The most were in the last few levels doing the "To Save A Thousand Worlds" arc.

I tend to find freaks a bit slower to take down than other groups with sets I play. Someone linked previously to a list of multipliers for the different mobs. Some of those surprised me as some groups I personally found 'easy' got a higher multiplier than groups I tended to try and avoid as I found them comparatively 'difficult'.

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I'd say more CoH players refuse to acknowledge running around in tights

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I don't know what you mean, I've never run around in my own tights.

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So, you admit to running around in other people's tights then?

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Don't we all?

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I only admit to running round in my wife's tights

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Well your life wouldn't be worth living if you were found running round in the neighbours tights!

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Nah, I'm not talking about people accidentally doing it. I'm talking about what we RPers see regularly. People deliberately shoving, or getting in the way of a conversation, or doing the funkymonkey in your face.


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Could you send them my way then, I need to know how?

I didn't think it was possible to deliberately shove people in game (other than by sodding pedestrians) and I've been trying for years to do it to people I play with. When I appear to be shoved by someone afaik from their perspective I'm shoving them.

I'll agree not to bump/shove/emote in your general direction if RPers consent to moving out of local distance of contacts and npcs I'm sent to talk to, it gives me a creepy sensation when I arrive at these people and some seriously weird text starts to creep onto my chat panel.

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Removal permission is an all or nothing affair - and you granted permission.

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nope, he had access, not permission


[/ QUOTE ]You gave him permission (through the supergroup rank permissions screen) to access base storage. In other words, to "approach, enter, speak with, or use" it.

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I think if someone started speaking with a storage rack, you should be concenred - not for theft - just concerned in general

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I know you don't want to admit it, heck neither do I, but GG probably isn't imaginary. No imaginary person could post that much!

The alternative would be, stay with me on this as it's a pretty wild and radical notion, just leave missions as they are and stop looking for ways to screw other players because they don't like their definition of enjoyment.

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Winter event can be assumed to start 1st December. Issue 13 will probably be live by then, but may be delayed if serious bugs show up in testing. Such a delay shouldn't be more than a month.


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Winter event begins Dec 15th.

I'd be more inclined to think the changing prices on the AH is more to do with the changes the devs made regarding which groups drop what type of salvage rather than what one part of the community is or isn't doing.

Tbh since the drop changes I've found I'm using the AH less and less. I make more IO's than I did previously and generally I'm vendoring any left over salvage rather than selling it on the AH. I used to find I could make a profit by selling salvage on the AH, making more than the default vendor price, now I find the opposite.

The only prices I've found have gone up overall are the vanilla IOs, which I put down to the dxp weekend before last. Before that point IOs were stupidly cheap to buy on the AH, you could kit yourself out for less than the price of equivalent lvl SOs.

NCSoft are going to run into a brick wall trying to dictate terms to big brand companies regarding how the adverts will look ingame. They're more likely to get the required flexibility from smaller businesses, or perhaps even bigger tech related companies, but not from the likes of Nike.

Unfortunately it comes down to subscribers. If WoW or maybe Guild Wars turned around and said to a company like Nike they were going to begin ingame advertising but wanted ads that were in keeping with the setting I could see the big boys playing ball given the potential audience. CoH player numbers are just too small to get the same sort of movement imo.

My fuzzy memory stops me from remembering, was there any talk of localisation by the powers that be when this was originally announced?

It an interesting suggestion but it appears less like a travel power and more part of a general powerset, possibly an APP even.

If they give me loads of money I'll happily advertise my business in game!

I was going to pick a power from each of my 50's, then I realised I had 8 plus some of them I couldn't pick one stand out power from, and others I couldn't pick any stand out powers from.

In no particular order:

1. Eagles Claw, from my MA/Regen. The ultimate chopsocky attack.
2. Fearsome Stare +
3. Tenebrous Tentacles both from my Dark/Dark. I find it hard thinking of these, along with Nightfall, as anything other than one attack, having used them for 30 levels as my opening salvo.
4. Fluffy again from D3. I can't bring myself to call him Dark Servant. The support to my support.
5. Energy Transfer from my Nrg/Nrg brute. It used to be my ultimate attack, I'd end up doing more damage to myself than the mobs were by using hasten to spam it as much as I could. It's only downside was a damp squib animation which was recently buffed.
6. Ripper from my Spines/WP. I just love the animation.
7. Seeds of Confusion from my Plant/Rad. Only got to lvl16 so far but this power is already becoming one of my firm favourites.

You get Zombie Rikti of course!

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Quite honesly If I want to run an International counterfeiting operation from my bedroom thats jolly well up to me thank you very much!


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But... if you were running an International counterfeiting operation from your bedroom that wouldn't be quite honest would it?

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You could always use the argument you were trying to find evidence of a cover up over the existence of UFOs!

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Mate, I tend to agree, mate.


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You're my bestest buddy in the whole wide world...

*stabs 'Notify Moderator' button repeatedly*

I suppose the counter argument to this is that for 4 years or so items like server transfers or character renames weren't available (generally) so you weren't buying software and then being charged to use parts of it. People asked for these features so they developed the system to do it automatically. I doubt they'd have ever offered the system if a GM had to get involved everytime someone wanted to make the slightest change to their character name.

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Hey mate you want to pay cos u typed Standuff instead of Standoff and didn't notice thats up to u mate, I don't and frankly don't want u 2 either.

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After several reads I'm not even vaguely sure what your point is there, or even how many points you're covering.

Should I consider myself insulted?

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Having read the boards these past few years I've found that, as a general rule of thumb, when words like 'mate' or 'buddy' are used to begin a retort, I get the oddest feeling the person doesn't really want to be your mate or buddy.

That could be just my cynicism coming out though.

Why would anyone resent another person being able to buy something with their own money?

I haven't bought slots, renames, server swaps and I can't see me buying respecs either but I'll not lose any sleep if someone else chooses to. Nothing they've offered for sale so far has any affect on my game. If they ever got around to billing you each time you gained a level then I'd be all for a rant but so far they haven't.

True it may be cheaper short term to buy more copies of the game but when your free months gone you then either ditch those alts or pay for more and more monthly subs. Character slots are a one off payment, you don't get charged more each month based on how many slots you've bought for your account. Also all your new characters benefit from your vet rewards, something characters on a second or third account do not.

I get the feeling sometimes people are listening to Ya Mama when they're playing.

Rogue Traders: We're Coming Home always reminds me of Rikti invasions. I'd bought the album around the same time i10 was released.