Warhamster

Are we still sticking to Monday night only KB, or are you all trying to pull them together every night? I was a bit upset I was unable to really play last night. Here is to hoping we can start organizing more than 1 day a week.

Dexington makes stalking so easy that even a noob like me looks good. You sir are a beast.

On shield tanks that is. Someone complained for 15 mins last night in RV that I was popping purples, and they said they had proof. I couldn't stop laughing. Proccing up shark gives you less accuracy...defense reaps benefits, yes 1+1=2, shocker?

Whoever was bringing that 5 second stun in the last KB match, I love you and you need to come back and play more.

I support Silit in this push, more action now please.

Try out a few of the great macros that can be searched out on the PB forums and you'll understand what I'm talking about. 1 button push that drops me to human form and togs on SS/SJ/CJ, another that drops me to human form and auto togs on my phase, another that puts me to human form and auto heals, ect. The list goes on. A good tri form build is dependent on macros, without them you'd never want to leave human form.

Believe me when I say, the damage between squid and human is staggering.

Good post, I'll rise to the challenge since you pulled posts from my favorite thread of all time.

To summarize my response, the post you used to reinforce your point was taken out of context. That conversation was based on the enjoyable challenge now offered to my thermal in a team setting from the i13 changes, while healing a team member. While what you posted was out of context, I will openly admit, and continue to support heal suppression in its current form. I'll list the original post that spawned the reply you listed below to clear this up:

A shielded human form build is very survivable, but does lol damage to the point of marking yourself as a non threat. Squid form really makes you dangerous with blaster lvl damage and tactics lvl to hit bonus, you should consider trying it out. As soon as you start getting spiked, 1 button push macro dumps you back into human form and off you go out of danger.

My PB is actually the most enjoyable toon to PvP with that I have for RV, by a long shot. I play mine as a tri form regen, have all 3 heals, and change forms regularly. The thing that people are not aware of is that your heals do not suppress/reduce. I can heal for just over 2,000 in under 5 seconds when all 3 of my heals are up, not to mention that after doing so I'm sporting close to 2,200 hit points in any form due to the dull pain +hp heal. As PvP toons go, its considerably more challenging to master than any other class, that requires and absolute ton of hotkeys and macros. It’s a great deal of fun if you like a challenge.

About 2-3 months ago there was a thread going on about the freedom RV population. As part of that I took down population numbers every 30 mins for about 3 hours over 4 evenings during peak play time. Totals capped out at 56 players in zone at one time (I think that was a Sunday night), and tended to be about even mix of heroes and villains. In the last few weeks there has been a bit less of a turnout, however with some new MMO's out that's to be expected.

Good Lord, 5 min load times? Is your computer made of wood? :P

You make a valid point here. If your computer is steam powered, best to stick to Guardian. If you have a reasonable computer, Freedom is the place for you. It really all just boils down to your box and connection.

Thoughts on doing it draft pick style? Would help lvl the playing field if we get a bunch of new players.

Last nights Monday KB was good times. Anyone still up for the league idea? It would seem that teams of 4-5 players would be easy enough to get organized.

I hate you Oppressive Gloom. Please detoggle this power when you see I'm in the zone, thanks.

What happened to that Tank thread you started Barrier? You say something naughty?

The other thing Singy has going for him is his own KB timer. I can lift someone, they hit the ground, stand up, then Singy throws them up himself. It's rare since if he uses his hold first he can no longer lift them for the next 12 secs, but its pretty damn funny when I'm able to kill someone even before they can stand.

I would expect as much, considering you were stacking -def on me while forged.

Ok, ran some tests in RV today. Without DR my Shield tank has 50% def to melee and 58% def to range. With DR running that drops to 33% melee and 37% ranged. I tested with a dom who had +17 to hit from tactics and kismet before DR. (forgot to ask him what that DR'd down to) With a melee ranged power that had 78% Acc and was running the tactics kismet combo he had a 47% chance to hit me. (That's vs my 33% melee defense) Turning off Tactics, his chances dropped to a staggering 34%. We then tested with Drain Psi as that was the only power he had with 95% slotted Accuracy. With Tactics running he needed 53%, without it, he dropped to 39%.

I then had him slap Waterspout on me to see how bad the debuff was. I dropped to 27% ranged defense, then it hopped right back up to 32% right away due to Grant Cover's debuff resistance provided and stayed there. It was difficult to test attacks on me since the debuff from spout appeared to be very short duration, so we were really unable to get hard numbers. I'll try and test with poison ray next time if possible.

I'd say that defense is alive and kicking, at least for shield tanks.

Ok, ran some tests in RV today. Without DR my Shield tank has 50% def to melee and 58% def to range. With DR running that drops to 33% melee and 37% ranged. I tested with a dom who had +17 to hit from tactics and kismet before DR. (forgot to ask him what that DR'd down to) With a melee ranged power that had 78% Acc and was running the tactics kismet combo he had a 47% chance to hit me. (That's vs my 33% melee defense) Turning off Tactics, his chances dropped to a staggering 34%. We then tested with Drain Psi as that was the only power he had with 95% slotted Accuracy. With Tactics running he needed 53%, without it, he dropped to 39%.

I then had him slap Waterspout on me to see how bad the debuff was. I dropped to 27% ranged defense, then it hopped right back up to 32% right away due to Grant Cover's debuff resistance provided and stayed there. It was difficult to test attacks on me since the debuff from spout appeared to be very short duration, so we were really unable to get hard numbers. I'll try and test with poison ray next time if possible.

I'd say that defense is alive and kicking, at least for shield tanks.

The one thing that the nerf to Elusivity did right was change the way players slot their toons in zone. Most players no longer worry about having a decent base acc in their powers now since almost no defense toons remain. I've had excellent success with my Shield tank so far because of this. That toon clocks in at 50% melee and 58% range and rarely saw anyone other than SS brutes hitting me on greater than 60%. Being that you have posted such great numbers, perhaps I'll try and find someone to run some tests with me tonight and I'll report back with specific examples.

You should have checked your to hit rolls. With your debuff AND BU you never got higher than 79%. Without BU and with the debuff on me you were still needing to roll under the low 60% range to hit. When your debuff came down, I watched you need to roll under 48% without BU just to land it. Just because you got lucky and rolled under that most of the time doesnt change the numbers. The other factor here was the fact that you had no chance vs me in a standup fight, or did you forget that I took you and a second stalker on with no problems lol. Both of you broke off the attack when I almost killed the other guy and he ran for it.

The really nice thing about Shields is its got a tasty power that gives me a 20% resist to defense debuffs and 30% resist to -recharge. This was making a big difference when faced with Poisonous Ray and Waterspout. Tack on to that the giant hit point buff from True Grit, and resists numbers only 9% lower that my Invul brute, and you get a freakin' beast. (Betty Beast that is) My dom loves resist based tanks because I'm sporting a hot 95% to hit chance when laying on the debuff Poisonous Ray. Having to roll under a 45% just to lay the debuff is VERY frustrating when facing a shield tank because I am at a disadvantage to start with a defense based shield, what with SS tanks and rage dropping them in at around a 95% chance to hit anyway. Add to that the fact that I'm losing 20% of the effectiveness on the debuff if it actually lands, and madness can set in. :P

If I had decided on a resist set it would have certainly been Fire over elec anyway. With all the /fire doms and fire/ cors running around on Freedom, its a no brainer with all that resist AND a huge heal on super fast recharge.

Fought quite a few mind doms over the weekend, no problems with any of them in zone. Best recorded to hit chance was a 58% on a Dominate from one player. Dominate and Mesmerize seemed to clock in the high 40% to low 50% most of the time. Secondary attacks (mostly fire it seems) ranged from the low 30% to mid 40%. My ranged 3 part attack chain feels a bit busted and OP to be honest. I was consistently doing more damage at range than they were, with a good 1,000-1200 more hit points, and the same resist #'s they had if they took the res shield instead of def. I'll be very surprised if Fossilize doesn't get beat by the nerf stick.

End was an issue for me. Running 6 togs, with active def taking 10% chunks of my end, while constantly spamming attacks with a very nasty double hit from rage and haste crash was brutal. I learned to manage it, but it took some doing. On the plus side I noticed that stacking rage eliminated the -def portion of the rage crash, stopping my vulnerability window completely. With aid self I could also easily take on 2 stalkers at once with no problems, often killing 1 with the other running for the hills. The most amusing part about all of this is I have yet to pick up my 15% more health from accolades, so it can only get better as I close on 3k hps. The toon is not as enjoyable as my tri/regen PBer simply due to his one dimensional approach, but its a fun change of pace.

Wait, so he's complaining about TA cors and you're telling him to get fly? lol

Lord, where were you before I finalized the build lol. I had another one with 67% ranged and melee def, but it really suffered from lower hit points and craptastic (on a melee toon)SJ as a travel power, so I could turn on CJ when fighting. If my ranged defense comes in close to 40% from 58% after DR then I'm ok with that. When my EA stalker pops invis and shadow meld I pop up to around 40-42% with DR, which pushes the to hit chance of most anyone I'm fighting down into the low 40%. I'm very comfortable with that if you're right about it dropping to 40% from 60%.

My stalker has never bothered with a tanker with this many hit points unless he's being mobbed. Solo vs a stalker would be a joke, I could aid self heal the entire amount of your AS lol. Rads in zone are easy since they have a big target painted on their head and are marked for death. If by some miracle I come into contact with one solo...
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