I am wondering too. Additional quick question, can a bane crit from stealth or is the cloaking device needed? What about after placate on no cloaking?
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You can crit from just placate w/o bane cloaking device.
You need Bane cloaking device to have "Hidden" status to be able to crit.
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Ok so I've been thinking about making a Bane for pvp, even after veat dmg nerf and elusitivity, I wanna have a PB and bane (matching EATS) for pvp.
Looking at the build, I want Leaping, Fitness, Leadership (double assault ftw?), phase, and aidself. I'm willing to cut out SS especially if I have mental training and swift. Anyone have decent builds? I want mace beam, poisonous ray, shatter, placate, shatter armor, web coccoon, surveillence, and probably Mace Blast from the patron to get SHatter Armor. Anyone have any suggestions or builds or advise on what to build for? (I've pvp'd on an SO'd bane before in i13, so I know most of the combat strategies.) |
If you go to make this toon on freedom skipping superspeed is not really an option. I will throw a good word in for the fighting pool on a veat. It might sound crazy but it really can help. If its mostly for zones just carry greens and use the temp phase as needed.
As far as patrons go I would probably just grab trow fishy and call it good. Make sure to pump your ranged defense as high as possible. Even in dr world a well built bane is tough as hell to hit.
And an honorable mention to going for a straight ****** build. Hatter used to have his in rv alot with tp+fly. He would fly around, nade stuff and tp it into the pools. It was a pretty annoying toon. Not sure if you like to play that way, but it really is effective if that floats your boat.
Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.
The thing is I dont have room for all the epics I want. I want double assault, NEED fitness, NEED a travel power, Want 2 travel powers, want phase and want aidself. I guess I can just c raft temp phases, however, I have REALLY long loads into RV (up to 5 minutes at times) so I dont leave zone for insps....ever. Which is why i wanted aidself but I suppose I can just run or phase.
spirit shark = 151 damage
Mace Blast (power needed to unlock Shatter Armor) = 130
Shatter Armor= 271 plus -20percent res.
I guess you meant take spirit shark if the build is too tight?
ALso how much defense do you think I should build for?
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ALso how much defense do you think I should build for? |
My Bane will have ~43% DRed ranged when I get the last two IOs I need to complete sets. That's about as high as you can realisticly go without completely gimping yourself, and even then it won't go much higher. I've teamed with Ronin and gotten Veng and only went to 48%. Even with that I get hit alot. No Elusivity and crappy resists kinda sucks.
Also, you can't take Spirit Shark and Shatter Armor. I went Shatter Armor on my build and it is an awesome attack.
Good Lord, 5 min load times? Is your computer made of wood? :P
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The thing is I dont have room for all the epics I want. I want double assault, NEED fitness, NEED a travel power, Want 2 travel powers, want phase and want aidself. I guess I can just c raft temp phases, however, I have REALLY long loads into RV (up to 5 minutes at times) so I dont leave zone for insps....ever. Which is why i wanted aidself but I suppose I can just run or phase.
spirit shark = 151 damage Mace Blast (power needed to unlock Shatter Armor) = 130 Shatter Armor= 271 plus -20percent res. I guess you meant take spirit shark if the build is too tight? ALso how much defense do you think I should build for? |
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Good Lord, 5 min load times? Is your computer made of wood? :P
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Good Lord, 5 min load times? Is your computer made of wood? :P
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Only to RV, its borked
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Yep. I took it on my fort, and it's basically the only good attack the fort has lol.
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I went Shatter Armor on my build and it is an awesome attack.
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My bane does alright in pvp. The def is awful in sirens call but when i pve with this build or head to rv my def is alright. The damage is pretty good surprisingly however i dont have assault in time for sirens call . I opted not to take a mastery and went with tough and weave in the 40s and it does help me quite a bit. I also took mace beam and poisonus ray, they both do good damage in pvp and good to snag runners. Im not sure you will be able to fit in shatter armor or not i couldnt do it. capping def was also expensive and required some odd slotting at times. Hope this helps! if you want to see build i can post it in a few days!
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Originally Posted by Alamo
My bane does alright in pvp. The def is awful in sirens call but when i pve with this build or head to rv my def is alright. The damage is pretty good surprisingly however i dont have assault in time for sirens call
. I opted not to take a mastery and went with tough and weave in the 40s and it does help me quite a bit. I also took mace beam and poisonus ray, they both do good damage in pvp and good to snag runners. Im not sure you will be able to fit in shatter armor or not i couldnt do it. capping def was also expensive and required some odd slotting at times. Hope this helps! if you want to see build i can post it in a few days! |
Here it is, sorry it took me this long! I dont have everything you want but maybe this will help you get started, you can always tweak things to your liking! Sorry, def isnt capped as i thought it was, it is as close as i could get though.
[color:#1E90FF]Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.601[/color]
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[color:#1E90FF]Level 50 Natural Arachnos Soldier[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Primary Power Set: [/color][color:#1E90FF]Bane Spider Soldier[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Secondary Power Set: [/color][color:#1E90FF]Bane Spider Training[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#1E90FF]Fitness[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#1E90FF]Speed[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#1E90FF]Fighting[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Villain Profile:[/color]
[color:#32CD32]Level 1:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Bash[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFE600]Touch of Death - [/color][color:#FFE600]Accuracy/Damage/Endurance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (3) [color:#FFE600]Touch of Death - [/color][color:#FFE600]Damage/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (3) [color:#FFE600]Touch of Death - [/color][color:#FFE600]Damage/Endurance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (5) [color:#FFE600]Touch of Death - [/color][color:#FFE600]Accuracy/Damage[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (5) [color:#FFE600]Touch of Death - [/color][color:#FFE600]Damage/Endurance/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (7) [color:#FFE600]Touch of Death - [/color][color:#FFE600]Chance of Damage(Negative)[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 30[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFE600]Steadfast Protection - [/color][color:#FFE600]Knockback Protection[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 30[/color]
- (7) [color:#FFE600]Steadfast Protection - [/color][color:#FFE600]Resistance/+Def 3%[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 30[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFE600]Luck of the Gambler - [/color][color:#FFE600]Defense[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (9) [color:#FFE600]Luck of the Gambler - [/color][color:#FFE600]Defense/Endurance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (9) [color:#FFE600]Luck of the Gambler - [/color][color:#FFE600]Defense/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFE600]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#FFE600]Endurance/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (11) [color:#FFE600]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#FFE600]Resistance/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (11) [color:#FFE600]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#FFE600]Resistance/Endurance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (13) [color:#FFE600]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#FFE600]Resistance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (13) [color:#FFE600]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#FFE600]Resistance/Endurance/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 30[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFE600]Rectified Reticle - [/color][color:#FFE600]To Hit Buff[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 20[/color]
- (15) [color:#FFE600]Rectified Reticle - [/color][color:#FFE600]To Hit Buff/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 20[/color]
- (15) [color:#FFE600]Rectified Reticle - [/color][color:#FFE600]Increased Perception[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 20[/color]
- (17) [color:#FFC000]Recharge Reduction[/color][color:#FFC000] IO[/color][color:#FFC000]: Level 50[/color]
- (27) [color:#FFC000]Recharge Reduction[/color][color:#FFC000] IO[/color][color:#FFC000]: Level 50[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFD700]Empty[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFC000]Recharge Reduction[/color][color:#FFC000] IO[/color][color:#FFC000]: Level 50[/color]
- (17) [color:#FFC000]Recharge Reduction[/color][color:#FFC000] IO[/color][color:#FFC000]: Level 50[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFE600]Touch of Death - [/color][color:#FFE600]Accuracy/Damage/Endurance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (19) [color:#FFE600]Touch of Death - [/color][color:#FFE600]Damage/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (19) [color:#FFE600]Touch of Death - [/color][color:#FFE600]Damage/Endurance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (21) [color:#FFE600]Touch of Death - [/color][color:#FFE600]Accuracy/Damage[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (21) [color:#FFE600]Touch of Death - [/color][color:#FFE600]Damage/Endurance/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (46) [color:#FFE600]Touch of Death - [/color][color:#FFE600]Chance of Damage(Negative)[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFE600]Blessing of the Zephyr - [/color][color:#FFE600]Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (23) [color:#FFE600]Blessing of the Zephyr - [/color][color:#FFE600]Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFD700]Empty[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFE600]Mako's Bite - [/color][color:#FFE600]Damage/Endurance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (23) [color:#FFE600]Mako's Bite - [/color][color:#FFE600]Accuracy/Damage[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (36) [color:#FFE600]Mako's Bite - [/color][color:#FFE600]Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (36) [color:#FFE600]Mako's Bite - [/color][color:#FFE600]Damage/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (36) [color:#FFE600]Mako's Bite - [/color][color:#FFE600]Chance of Damage(Lethal)[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (37) [color:#FFE600]Mako's Bite - [/color][color:#FFE600]Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFE600]Performance Shifter - [/color][color:#FFE600]Chance for +End[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (37) [color:#FFE600]Performance Shifter - [/color][color:#FFE600]EndMod[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (37) [color:#FFE600]Performance Shifter - [/color][color:#FFE600]EndMod/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (42) [color:#FFE600]Performance Shifter - [/color][color:#FFE600]Accuracy/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (42) [color:#FFE600]Performance Shifter - [/color][color:#FFE600]EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (43) [color:#FFE600]Performance Shifter - [/color][color:#FFE600]EndMod/Accuracy[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFE600]Serendipity - [/color][color:#FFE600]Defense[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (25) [color:#FFE600]Serendipity - [/color][color:#FFE600]Endurance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (27) [color:#FFE600]Serendipity - [/color][color:#FFE600]Endurance/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (34) [color:#FFE600]Serendipity - [/color][color:#FFE600]Defense/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (40) [color:#FFE600]Serendipity - [/color][color:#FFE600]Defense/Endurance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (42) [color:#FFE600]Serendipity - [/color][color:#FFE600]Defense/Endurance/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFE600]Luck of the Gambler - [/color][color:#FFE600]Defense/Endurance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 30[/color]
- (25) [color:#FFE600]Luck of the Gambler - [/color][color:#FFE600]Defense[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFC000]Recharge Reduction[/color][color:#FFC000] IO[/color][color:#FFC000]: Level 50[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFE600]Shield Breaker - [/color][color:#FFE600]Defense Debuff[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 30[/color]
- (29) [color:#FFE600]Shield Breaker - [/color][color:#FFE600]Accuracy/Defense Debuff[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 30[/color]
- (29) [color:#FFE600]Shield Breaker - [/color][color:#FFE600]Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 30[/color]
- (31) [color:#FFE600]Shield Breaker - [/color][color:#FFE600]Accuracy/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 30[/color]
- (31) [color:#FFE600]Achilles' Heel - [/color][color:#FFE600]Chance for Res Debuff[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 20[/color]
- (31) [color:#FFE600]Achilles' Heel - [/color][color:#FFE600]Defense Debuff/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 20[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFE600]Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - [/color][color:#FFE600]Recharge/Endurance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (43) [color:#FFE600]Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - [/color][color:#FFE600]To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (43) [color:#FFE600]Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - [/color][color:#FFE600]To Hit Buff/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (46) [color:#FFE600]Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - [/color][color:#FFE600]Chance for Build Up[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (46) [color:#FFE600]Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - [/color][color:#FFE600]To Hit Buff/Endurance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (50) [color:#FFE600]Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - [/color][color:#FFE600]To Hit Buff[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFE600]Ruin - [/color][color:#FFE600]Damage/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (33) [color:#FFE600]Ruin - [/color][color:#FFE600]Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (33) [color:#FFE600]Ruin - [/color][color:#FFE600]Damage/Endurance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (33) [color:#FFE600]Ruin - [/color][color:#FFE600]Accuracy/Damage[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (34) [color:#FFE600]Ruin - [/color][color:#FFE600]Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (34) [color:#FFE600]Analyze Weakness - [/color][color:#FFE600]Chance for +ToHit[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 30[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFE600]Ruin - [/color][color:#FFE600]Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (39) [color:#FFE600]Ruin - [/color][color:#FFE600]Damage/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (39) [color:#FFE600]Ruin - [/color][color:#FFE600]Damage/Endurance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (39) [color:#FFE600]Ruin - [/color][color:#FFE600]Accuracy/Damage[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (40) [color:#FFE600]Ruin - [/color][color:#FFE600]Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (40) [color:#FFE600]Devastation - [/color][color:#FFE600]Chance of Hold[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 50[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFC000]Run Speed[/color][color:#FFC000] IO[/color][color:#FFC000]: Level 50[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFD700]Empty[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFE600]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#FFE600]Resistance/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (45) [color:#FFE600]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#FFE600]Resistance/Endurance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (45) [color:#FFE600]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#FFE600]Resistance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (45) [color:#FFE600]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#FFE600]Endurance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFE600]Serendipity - [/color][color:#FFE600]Defense/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (48) [color:#FFE600]Serendipity - [/color][color:#FFE600]Endurance/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (48) [color:#FFE600]Serendipity - [/color][color:#FFE600]Defense[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (48) [color:#FFE600]Serendipity - [/color][color:#FFE600]Defense/Endurance[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (50) [color:#FFE600]Kismet - [/color][color:#FFE600]Accuracy +6%[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 30[/color]
- (50) [color:#FFE600]Serendipity - [/color][color:#FFE600]Defense/Endurance/Recharge[/color][color:#FFE600]: Level 40[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFC000]Endurance Reduction[/color][color:#FFC000] IO[/color][color:#FFC000]: Level 50[/color]
[color:#32CD32]Level 1:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Brawl[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFD700]Empty[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFD700]Empty[/color]
- (A) [color:#FFD700]Empty[/color]
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i have a 46 bane with a crapload of accolades that are closed to being done (i pve'd it with a bunch of badgers in justice before moving it to freedom in i12);
[i am so embarrassed.]
anyways. replace pulverize with shatter armor cause my mid's is borked.
i was bored (again), so i came up with this. the only big trade off is the fact that it doesn't have assault nor placate.
1720 hp, a bit of DoT potential, and the ability to see stalkers after popping a yellow or getting a cm/em is potentially interesting; especially with going rogue around the corner and kb's in freedom becoming so popular (not like i'm gonna be anything but teh fat kid if i actually finish this toon).
Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.601
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Level 50 Natural Arachnos Soldier
Primary Power Set: Bane Spider Soldier
Secondary Power Set: Bane Spider Training
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery
Set Bonus Totals:
- 19.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 19.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 19.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 19.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 19.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 19.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 19.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 19.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 4.25% Defense(Smashing)
- 4.25% Defense(Lethal)
- 4.25% Defense(Fire)
- 4.25% Defense(Cold)
- 8.94% Defense(Energy)
- 8.94% Defense(Negative)
- 3% Defense(Psionic)
- 5.5% Defense(Melee)
- 14.9% Defense(Ranged)
- 5.5% Defense(AoE)
- 18% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 57.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 5% Enhancement(Immobilize)
- 10% FlySpeed
- 220.9 HP (20.6%) HitPoints
- 14% JumpHeight
- 14% JumpSpeed
- Knockback (Mag -43)
- Knockup (Mag -43)
- MezResist(Held) 3.3%
- MezResist(Immobilize) 8.8%
- MezResist(Repel) 1000% (10% chance, in PvP)
- MezResist(Sleep) 2.2%
- 9% (0.16 End/sec) Recovery
- 38% (2.04 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 1.26% Resistance(Fire)
- 1.26% Resistance(Cold)
- 1.26% Resistance(Energy)
- 1.26% Resistance(Negative)
- 3% Resistance(Psionic)
- 10% RunSpeed
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Ok so I've been thinking about making a Bane for pvp, even after veat dmg nerf and elusitivity, I wanna have a PB and bane (matching EATS) for pvp.
Looking at the build, I want Leaping, Fitness, Leadership (double assault ftw?), phase, and aidself. I'm willing to cut out SS especially if I have mental training and swift.
Anyone have decent builds? I want mace beam, poisonous ray, shatter, placate, shatter armor, web coccoon, surveillence, and probably Mace Blast from the patron to get SHatter Armor.
Anyone have any suggestions or builds or advise on what to build for?
(I've pvp'd on an SO'd bane before in i13, so I know most of the combat strategies.)