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Um, I seriously doubt the Cryptic team thinks we "can't" do the Recluse SF

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How long did it take for someone to bring down the Hamidon ?
More likely that Cryptic thinks no-one can finish it, in the time allotted.

But this way they get people to attempt it, and can confirm that there are no bugs along the way.


The most interesting point of all this to me, is that it really sounds like I7 will be pushed live next week.

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Stalker snipes are going to need to be toned down a little, methinks. If my math is right, a Stalker's Build-Up + crit snipe won't be as powerful as a Blaster's Aim + Buildup snipe, but it'll be awfully close. Suddenly, Stalker sniper squadrons are a thing to truly be feared; 8 of them could just about wipe a whole team, Tankers included.

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How the hell is this any different from a Blaster sniper squadron.

who as you admit can do slightly more damage, and doesnt have to wait for hide, and can follow up with more high damage attacks,

(unlike stalkers who's DPS drops dramaticaly after 1 attack.)

So can stalkers now start up a petition to get EM melee powers or Cloaking Device nerfed for Blasters ?

cause you know ... we OWN burst damage melee attacks and stealth, so its not fair that any other AT has them.

Perhaps you can make a new scale (like the 'range' scale), um let s call it the SUCK scale, and we can put these blaster attacks on it ... you know cause we are insecure and cant share our toys.



Castle: How about some options here,

1) Remove snipes completely, because everyone is too precious about that, and give us a goog utility power (Focused accuracy, or power boost would be nice), this might make the PPP's at least 80% as good as the APP's. (as an aside, do any of the developers =there really think PPPs are better then APPs?), if that is unacceptable give us the lvl 32 blaster nukes instead, then after the outcry switch it back to the snipes (with melee damage).

2) Change the snipes to be on melee scale, but change the powers so that they are like a long range spines/Impale (then apply your normal formula for end/act/recharge). This means snipes are still apparently the property of blasters, and stalkers will end up with some long range attacks that dont suck in comparison of damage/end/act.

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Follow Up:
Stalker Snipe PPPs are back to being Ranged damage. The changes I'd made to keep them balanced got nixed.

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Don't worry, the patron powers are actually stronger than APPs to account for our inability to respec out of them

The Heroes are casting aside thier FOCUSED ACCURACY, PERSONAL FORCE FIELD, FORCE OF NATURE, in shame!

Baghdad Bob

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Baghdad Bob: "We are not afraid of the Hero's. Recluse has condemned them. They are stupid. They are stupid" (dramatic pause) "and they are condemned."

Baghdad Bob: "There are no Hero infidels in Warburg. Never!"

Baghdad Bob: "Yes, the Paragon troops have advanced further. This will only make it easier for us to defeat them"

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weird that they'd bother then

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Spines needs to have its ranged attacks run off the ranged scale. Impale is simply overpowered.

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Nerf Herd much?

any reason that after two years it suddenly needs to be nerfed ?

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FYI: Melee AT Patron Power Pool Ranged attacks which cause damage will be changed to using the Melee damage scale.

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Will Dominators use their melee or ranged modifier?

Melee mod would r0xxor!

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um, i think your melee mod is the same as your range mod, cause they are a 'Ranged AT' and dont suffer the handicap, the only classes that were being handicapped were stalkers and brutes, but they have now been brought into line with Scrappers and Tanks.

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Mu Lightning must be bugged. Or the info on the power is horribly wrong.

It says it is High Damage(Energy). However, its damage comes in at just between Jab (Minor Damage) and Punch (Medium damage). It's *nowhere* near Haymaker's or Hurl's Damage (both High Damage attacks), but its recharge is exactly the same as Hurl's, it even has the *very same* range.

Something about it is just wrong.

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It was like this for the APP's as well, but half way through testing the Devs realised that the powers also to actually be worthwile in and of themselves (otherwise you would just like ... run up and hit them) and not just novelty acts. at which point they based the APP's off the classes damage modifyer.

Hence a Scrappers Dark Blast does more damage then a Defenders Dark blast.


that they havnt done this for the 'better' PPP's is just retarded.

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I've been working with RedTomax to get the new power data listed on his site, and it's now up.

Click this link to see info on every power in the game (NPCs included).
All CoX Powers
New Patron Powers are listed in the Epic category.

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http://www.nofuture.org.uk/coh/power.../Mirror_Spirit

its interesting to see some of the new powers/groups that arnt really 'out' yet.

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he basically said "working as intended"

ugh

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Specifically:

Melee AT's have a considerable lower Ranged Damage modifier than Melee Damage modifier. For Stalkers and Brutes, the Range modifier is 2/3 the melee modifier.

So, if a Melee attack rated at 'High' does 100 damage, a 'High damage Ranged attack could be expected to do 66 damage before slotting.

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That might make sense with scrappers having a 112% damage modifyer, and you dont want scrappers better then blasters ... but with stalkers it really puts the CRAP in the the craptacular PPP's.

Seriously who here remembers the Dev comments about how PPP's are 'better' then the APP's. At this point i am pondering if they really do play a different game to me.


Hows this for a suggestion, scrap every one of the PPP's, give them to heroes as extra APP's, i dont care, then go back and make a bunch of real PPP's that actually build on our strengths and dont 'bring the suck' as it were.

Remember when you released the APP's and everyone was really excited? the fact that no-one likes the shite selection of powers on offer should give you some clue as to how badly you have misread your customer base here.

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Oh my god.

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I hope many Bothans died to bring you that information.

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Um.. don't know about multiple posting or what not, but thanks, I had missed the death knell from States.

Gee, why be a stalker when you can 2-shot just as well and probably a lot safer, with almost as much stealth with a /DA brute?

Thanks States.

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you. out of this forum.

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Scrapper Regen = Stalker Regen (minus QR of course)

In other words... Scrappers, Brutes, and Stalkers have the same base values.

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The regen value for stalkers and scrappers is the same because regen is based off your total health. (with stalkers having less health).

Hence you can use the same regen values for both ATs and still have stalkers at 76% effectivness of scrappers.

The actual numbers for defense and resistence powers are not a function of your health, hence they need to have different base values across the ATs.

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_Castle_ seemed to confirm CoD with his last post

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Seemed is the operative word there. I confirm nothing.

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I just wanted to remind everyone the _Castle_ created and submited the design brief for Stalker dark/dark (i remember it mentioned in Beta)
(he did this *after* the 'stalker techno defence set' was supposedly going to be released next issue)

As such it is my beleif that it has probably been changed to really gel with the stalker playstyle.

Who is to say that Dark Stalkers doesnt have CoD as their number 1 power ?

or that Oppresive gloom is now placating minions ?

I think that dark is going to have some very interesting 'utility' powers, and maybe something we havnt seen before, possibly building off the new stuff we saw in ninjitsu

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One thing at a time....

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Planning anything like this ?

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Also keep in mind they're dealing with the loss of Lord Recluse (and it seems Mako as well) so they're going to be up to their neck just trying to keep up with the schedule.

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Recluse and Mako were in the kind of position that give the coders more work to do.

coders are the guys that squash bugs.

If anything, those guys leaving would have 'sped up' coding on outstanding issues.

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Well, I shouldn't say "I created"... he was definitely inspired by a certain internet movie.

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a certain movie? is it the one I am refering too from wow? or a different one?

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yes he is referencing the WOW movie.

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I had always assumed that they would take the place of some of the trainers like Brawler and Blue Shield....now I'm not so sure.

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well according to the comic, Brawler is going to take a break from handing out missions, and start kicking some [censored].

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Quick question:

Is Caltrops + (Trip Mine * 3) a "One Shot" or is it 4 attacks?

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Is ( Caltrops + Buildup + TP Foe + Placate + AS ) a "One Shot" or is it 4 attacks ?

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How did you place the bottles on the desk?

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you can stack items on top of the benches in the 'desk' tab.

My Previous Abode before building my Base


The Main office, with plenty of room to store my stolen goods
Nice Widescreen Plasma TV for Watching TV and sport, also some secondaries for security and diagnostics
Some empty bottles i havn't cleared up yet from celebrating my latest heist
Practising the little known Art of Desk Surfing


Well, i hope you liked it, i think its pretty good for a 1 person SG with an under 20k cost.

I made a 2 gig video of fighting in breakout. the largest miss sstreak i found was multiple 3 miss streakis, but no 4s (where the streak breaker kicks in to convert to a hit).

I also came across this.

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Can someone look to see if when an Energy Melee punch disorients a foe... is it giving them a defense bonus of some sort? I am missing every swing until the disoriented foe becomes un-disoriented and I have my Accuracy slots with 1 acc +15 for a lvl 14

Support reply sent back was:
Thank you for contacting CoH support team. This is a known issue. We are working on it and hope to have it resolved soon. Please refer to the patch notes for any updates.

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My Current Belief is that Accuracy (and the streak breaker) is working in the correct ranges but that ...

(a) The rand function is very streaky and should be replaced
(b) Various bugs are effecting some encounters
(i) Streak breaker not kicking in until you hit once
(ii) Effective Auto-miss on disorientated foes
(iii) Effective Auto-miss on cone attacks

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I don't buy the 10-misses-in-breakout example. Proof is needed.

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i will see if i can get a install Fraps and get a recording of missing more then 3 times (the max according to the chart) against prisoners, when i get home from work.

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While I have no doubt that Manti is footing some of Longbow's bill, I doubt he's gotten much if any money to Wyvern. They're considered the bad boy hero group. Manti, as I've said, is the moral center of the Phalanx. I doubt he'd found such an organization that uses border line illegal methods and in the past has acctualy had conflicts with Longbow.

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Have you done the Manticore Task Force ?

He is all about borderline illegal methods, hell he even brags about it in his pep talk at the start.

Manticore definetly set Wyvern up, and in the End of beta event he had a bind that said "I wish i had MY Wyvern along for backup"

or here is another test to show that something is broken.


hit something once
Overdose on accuracy via - TargetingDrone + Acc SOs + Aim + Buildup + Focused accuracy + Acc inspires.


If you ever miss twice in a row after that then something is broken.

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How can I make a NEW character, run up to PRISONERS in breakout and miss 10 times in a row?
Explain that one please.

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If everything was 'working as intended' that would not be possible.

Take a lvl 1 single target attack and brawl.
both have 75% accuracy.

in order for a 10 miss streak to occur, Prisoners would need to have 65% def.

_Castle_, Weird Beird ... how much def do Prisoners have ?