Ultimus

Originally Posted by Hopeling

Titan Sweep doesn't do bruising. It's not a bad power by any measure, it just isn't a cornerstone of the set, and thus is skippable if necessary. However, I would certainly not skip it in a leveling build, because Whirl and Arc don't come until much later.

Edit: It appears you mean Defensive Sweep? But tankers can't skip it anyway, I was just adding that for completeness if someone is reading this thread and wondering the same thing for another AT.

Originally Posted by Hopeling

Crushing Blow and Titan Sweep are the two most skippable powers, IMO. Or possibly Defensive Sweep if your armor set doesn't make good use of it, but obviously that's not an option for a tanker.
I haven't checked the numbers for tankers yet, but for scrappers, Titan Sweep and Whirling Smash trail well behind Arc of Destruction and Rend Armor for DPA. Crushing Blow's DPA is actually not very high compared to the rest of the set.

Originally Posted by EU_Damz

*starts to hate all who posts threads with huge spoilers in them* Just saying!

Originally Posted by Mistress Rue

As it happens the MO (Master of) Lambda badges are designed around precisely the opposite condition - on 3 separate runs, you have to collect all the temps without using any, collect the acids only and not use any, and collect all the grenades, again without using any.

So, having them use themselves would break that mechanic (not that I don't think it's broken anyway *shameless plug for the return of the old 'bugged' MOLambda conditions*), so it's not likely to happen.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville

It depends on how high is high. If you can soft-cap Willpower, I think it can exceed Invuln on Tankers. But if you can't, the combination of high smash/lethal, perma dull pain, and invincibility is not easy to beat in most content.

Still, anyone who doesn't put Invuln up there as a strong tanking build has suspect judgment, and anyone who doesn't put Electric up there is probably extremely dated in their knowledge of the sets.

Originally Posted by Scirion

If they were to do *anything* to change Tankers (and Tankers alone), my only requests would be...

Raise the target cap on Taunt. Like, 20 targets or so. 5 is almost not worth using, except in emergency situations (like needing to pull an ambush off the Blaster on a Master run or something. Which it still fails at, because ambushes almost always spawn more than 5 targets).

Remove the aggro cap for Tankers. If the tanker wants to aggro the next three rooms at once, why shouldn't they be able to? That *is* their single purpose for being on the team. 90% of the Tankers in the game can handle way more aggro from 90% of the enemy groups in the game than they are allowed to take due to the aggro cap. Removing the aggro cap would also give the side benefit of making the AT more entertaining to play, as the driver would need to pay attention and not aggro more than they can handle, instead of it being as it is now, and just running around punching things while the team blows it all up. Rinse, repeat.

Personally, I also believe this would have the side benefit of seeing a resurgence of some of the more "neglected" powersets in the game. In particular, Empathy and Pain Domination. As the tank gets more aggro, they have more need of superior buffs (and possibly healing) that other AT's might not benefit from as much as a Tanker swimming in 80 <insert preferred enemy group here>. Less-used powers like Share Pain would start being useful again, rather than being the "LOL, You took THAT power?! LOL!!ONE" laughingstock it is now. (To that end, I think people are silly not to take it as things are now, but that's irrelevant.)

Other "buffs" that I wouldn't mind seeing, but also don't consider terribly important:

Raise the HP cap for Tankers. I have a Stone Armor tank that can self-cap HP using only TFC/Freem Phalanx (still missing Portal Jockey) and 3-slotted Earth's Embrace, plus a couple IO bonuses. OK, alot of bonuses. But it still wasn't a primary (or even tertiary) goal with the build. MaxHP was more like 5th place. Ally +MaxHP buffs like Frostwork are almost never taken, because the AT's that could benefit the most from them (namely, Tankers, Blasters on sub-par or Tanker/Brute-less teams, and Stalkers {though if I recall, Stalkers are getting an increase on their cap?}) can't benefit due to the HP cap. And just to clarify things, reducing the effectiveness of buffs to make it harder to hit the existing cap REALLY is NOT the right way to go about making changes.

Raise the existing taunt magnitude for all Tanker powers. Scrappers having a taunt aura with the same effectiveness as a Tanker is kind of silly, when you think about it.

I had another idea, but I spent so long typing all of that, I forgot about it.

Also, I only read the first and 25th pages, I skipped the other 23. So, sorry if this has all been beaten to death in this topic already.

Originally Posted by GreenFIame

You making more guess's, couple days ago you posted another Post about telling us it was Back Ally Brawler who is going to die. You just making more Guess's and more Theories about what to come, You where wrong about brawler and I am sure you are wrong with Wade and what to come. Only people who no's the outcome is The Devs and that is all, we can only make guess's.

Originally Posted by Schismatrix

*shakes magic 8 ball*
Very doubtful

Originally Posted by Captain-Electric

Originally Posted by EU_Damz

I want Ultimus back in this thread to say he knew it was states all along!

Originally Posted by Ms_Teri

And to clarify my poor writing i'm betting 100 million influence, not 100,000,000,000,000 influence . . .

Originally Posted by Ms_Teri

BAB is the easy choice, but he isn't a member of the phalanx so I'm going to say that it isn't going to be the token that dies.

There are three phalanx members left to be prominent in the "Who will die archs" and they are Manticore, Citadel and Positron.

And the goal for Wade is power, incredible power.

Wade has essentially removed the major players that could interfere with his plans: Sister Psyche is bonkers, Manticore (the world's greatest detective, sort of) is tied up with that and ostrasized by the others. Statesman is awol.

Manticore is highly trained hero with gadgets . . . he seems an unlikely sacrifice for ultimate power.

Citadel is a robot. Again an unlikely sacrifice.

That leaves the "heart" of the phalanx. The one that guards the flames of prometheus. The one who's mirror in praetoria posseses the "power of the universe."

Of all the characters to die, he would be the hardest hitting for the player base. People have a love hate thing with Statesman. Many people would be glad he was gone. Sister dying would hit people, but the impact on Manticore would make up for it.

But Posi . . .

If I was the devs and I really wanted to shake up the player base and the game, to make people think "anything can happen" I would kill him off.

He is not the easy choice, which is essentially Ultimus' argument.

But he is the best choice and the logical one if you want the biggest impact.

So, Ultimus if you want to place a wage, I'm game.

I'll pay you 100,000,000 million influence if its BAB, if you'll pay me the same if it is Positron. Its a wash if its anyone else.

You in?

Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel

And you know what, ultimus? I think that issue 23 of City of heroes is going to see major upgrades to the PVP, base, and base raid system. I think one of the next power sets in the shoot is going to be scythe fighting. I predict the next big update will be fixing dual pistols and kinetic melee's agonizingly long animation times and concentrated strike's sucky animations. Oh, and the next costume bundle will give us long skirts, and the third season of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic is 13 episodes because it'll be story arc heavy with an epic climax.

Anyone else who disagrees with my rampant speculation is WRONG, just like how anyone who disagrees with you is clearly wrong! Because we said so, that's why!

/sarcasm

Originally Posted by Agent White

Who said anywhere it was going to involve phasing?

When the character kicks it, they're gone. They're not going to just ghost out when you finish the SSA, they're getting completely written out of the game.

It's like the Galaxy City change, even though chronologically Galaxy City is 'new', it has now always happened and is currently happening at the same time, so they've cut Galaxy City out of everything even though *several* (if not nearly all) missions that predate it.

When SSA7 hits, this character is going to die and it's going to be a major rewrite just like Galaxy City was, it is going to be 'currently' happening and 'always' have happened and all missions are going to be rewritten to take it into account that involve it.