Toy

Originally Posted by Dollymistress

Issue 20 has a signed NDA because the new uber-incarnate AV is a Superman clone wearing a starfleet uniform and Defender's helmet, wielding a lightsabre with a droid sidekick named Conan-D2 who tosses "meuxhawk bombs" at enemies. Defeating him unlocks the temp power "Wolverine's Claws" and allows you to use fatalities but only if you dress *exactly* like Chun-Li. Superman comes from a planet split in two which ran out of energon. His faction symbol is the Eye of Sauron and he summons Eldar Avatar mastermind pets that can transform into bi-planes but they only fly for 30 seconds before falling out of the sky in disgust.

Completing his task force earns you the "Sued by Everyone" badge, the Metallica emote and a Mickey Mouse non-combat pet.

Originally Posted by UberGuy

Actually, I could not disagree more. Specifically, the characterization of all Villains as Chaotic Evil smacks of applying a shoe-horn to find a place to list the last two alignments of the CoH/V and D&D categories not already mentioned.

All villains do not fit cleanly in the Chaotic Evil alignment. If Rogue covers Neutral Evil (and I think that's an overly restrictive of Rogue, too), I believe there is plenty of room for Villains to be Lawful Evil. There are plenty of examples villains who espouse strong loyalty to order and tradition while heartlessly striking down innocents to enforce order and tradition through fear and oppression. Edit: Just because Recluse might fit Chaotic Evil, it is not reasonable to cast all villain motivations based on his image.

On the matter of Rogues, while I do think that Neutral Evil does fit Rogues, I also feel that Chaotic Neutral and even (True) Neutral fit. Just because you're breaking the law, and even if you're willing to break your word, it doesn't mean you're willing to harm innocents. In fact, the Rogue Morality mission has you risk absolutely overwhelming punishment (attacking an Aribiter is usually like ordering a death sentence with a side of torture) to spare the lives of innocent bystanders, when you could just take the job and be paid.

Edit 2: As I think about it, the same thing applies to heroes. All heroes are not Lawful Good. Basically I think this effort at alignment categorization ran aground when it tried to keep Primal and Praetorean "alignments" distinct. They aren't, and so there should be overlap.

Originally Posted by SpaceNut

I'll bring this back from a post I made during GR beta:

Heroes -> Lawful Good: A Lawful Good character typically acts with compassion, and always with honor and a sense of duty.

Vigilantes -> Neutral Good: A Neutral Good character is guided by his conscience and typically acts altruistically, without regard for or against Lawful precepts such as rules or tradition. A Neutral Good character has no problems with co-operating with lawful officials, but does not feel beholden to them.

Resistance/Warden -> Chaotic Good: A Chaotic Good character favors change for a greater good, disdains bureaucratic organizations that get in the way of social improvement, and places a high value on personal freedom, not only for oneself, but for others as well. They always intend to do the right thing, but their methods are generally disorganized and often out of alignment with the rest of society.

Loyalist/Responsibility -> Lawful Neutral: A Lawful Neutral character typically believes strongly in Lawful concepts such as honor, order, rules and tradition, and often follows a personal code. A Lawful Neutral society would typically enforce strict laws to maintain social order, and place a high value on traditions and historical precedent.

Civilian -> Neutral: This alignment represents Neutral on both axes, and tends not to feel strongly towards any alignment. A farmer whose primary overriding concern is to feed his family is of this alignment.

Resistance/Crusader -> Chaotic Neutral: A character of this alignment is an individualist who follows his or her own heart, and generally shirks rules and traditions. Although they promote the ideals of freedom, it is their own freedom that comes first.

Loyalist/Power -> Lawful Evil: Characters of this alignment see a well-ordered system as being easier to exploit, and show a combination of desirable and undesirable traits; while they usually obey their superiors and keep their word, they care nothing for the rights and freedoms of other individuals and are not averse to twisting the rules to work in their favor.

Rogue -> Neutral Evil: Characters of this alignment are typically selfish and have no qualms about turning on their allies-of-the-moment. They have no compunctions about harming others to get what they want, but neither will they go out of their way to cause carnage or mayhem when they see no direct benefit to it. They abide by laws for only as long as it is convenient for them.

Villain -> Chaotic Evil: Characters of this alignment tend to have no respect for rules, other people's lives, or anything but their own desires, which are typically selfish and cruel. They set a high value on personal freedom, but do not have any regard for the lives or freedom of other people.

Originally Posted by Dr_Mechano

If you think what you've experienced here is bad...well I must say you really haven't experienced the worst forums that MMOs can offer.

Remember the fact Blizzard were threatening the whole Real ID thing because they realised their forums are a complete mess? Openly hostile to new players asking question, generally rude and what useful information there is on there was buried under a ton of crap. It is seen as the worst gaming forum on the internet and Blizzard had to threaten to reveal players names because they thought that was the only way to clean up its image.

The Eve online forums are...strangely civil for a game where griefing is seen as part of the gameplay but I think thats because the game has a learning curve that curves so hard it turns into an overhang. Even there you will still get big arguements.

I won't even get started on the CO, AoC or the many unofficial WAR forums, the APB forums while the game was running were equally terrible.

Generally these forums are on par with the Eve forums, civil discussion happens.

The 'Twixt' story he went out of his way to antagonise as many people as he possibly could IIRC and generally acted like a [censored] all under the banner of 'scientific research' most of which was absolute bupkiss anyway with him skewing the results as he saw fit.

Lets take the guy who posted his video review of CoH/GR, the guy made an ungodly number of errors in it, had clearly 'not done the research' and while he asked for opinions, when people pointed all that out he got incredibly defensive and wouldn't admit he was in the wrong.

So don't act so heartwounded by a simple disagreement from other people.

Am I interested in DCUO?

No.

It has a COish art-style and much like CO is focusing on trying to be a console port (press Z to talk to a contact instead of just click on them? Really CO?). It has the whole WoW 'costumes as gear' element which just sucks in an MMO where customisation is key and generally doesn't look like a good MMO, I've played enough bad ones to spot a 'meh' one (I've played all the MMOs I've listed above, WAR, AoC, WoW, CO and attempted to play Eve but just couldn't get my head around it, Eve isn't bad just completely newbie unfriendly) .

The new Final Fantasy MMO is accused of this and according to all reviews it is basically a really, really awful console port.

Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA

In fairness Golden Girl was doing her usual passive-aggressive smiley thing. I don't blame people for getting annoyed with that style of posting. Telling someone to shut up but it's ok because you stuck a smilie on it, yeah I know it could be a joke. It could also be read as a dig (but wrapped up in a joke because Mr Smilie says it is).

In general sticking GG on ignore is the best option if you haven't developed your own internal filters for one-line smilies.

I don't particularly believe these forums are filled with closed-minded bigots either mind. I frequently give out about some aspects of this game, and myself and Sam frequently have arguments where we're on opposing sides. The difference is we've still got respect for each others point of view, even if we disagree with it personally.

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

Probably because those are kinda hard to find

Originally Posted by Jade_Dragon

Thanks. What makes Rachel so fun is that her backstory is so tied to the "good" Rachel and her partner. Basically, my character's name is Alan Midnight, and he's a old school film noir type detective, but from the 26th century. So he's like Sam Spade meets Johnny Mnemonic. Rachel is like Mike Hammer's Velda or Hunter's Dee Dee McCall, crossed with Battle Angel Alita. The two are a duo, they're intended to always be together, and complement each other. (He's a Devices Blaster, she's a tanking Scrapper)

They came to the 21st century to find out what was apparently changing their past, only to find that THEY were. An alternate Alan from an alternate 26th century went back to the past to investigate changes, and is trying to make HIS history happen. So they're the same, only the "evil" Alan is a Bots/Traps Mastermind, and Rachel is just the strongest of his six robot henchmen.

What makes it fun is that the good Rachel would be horrified by using a corpse as some sort of puppet. She also has this very flirtatious, good natured personality. (A sharp contrast to her claws and aggresive fighting style) The evil Rachel tries to flirt, but she's so robotic that it comes off as really, really creepy. She says things like, "Do you not like my body, <villain name>? I am calling you by name in order to entice you." I play her with an SG, so the reactions to her chat macros are always funny.

Getting back on the original subject, I've finally gone Rogue with my main Arachnophelia character, on Virtue. I'm still working on the Pinnacle version, who hasn't hit 20 yet, but I've definately decided to take her to Hero. For one thing, it'll give me an excuse to stick with her Wolf Spider uniform, she wants the Crab legs, really bad, she has this spider fetish, and joined Arachnos just to get the legs. But she'll leave Arachnos right after that and thus won't get the uniform, just sticking with her old one. Then I'll take her hero so she can be with my SG.

Also, someone else in the thread mentioned Kheldians, and I have DEFINATELY shifted both my Warshades to Nictus. It's somehow more fun to play them that way. You can revel in sucking the souls out of the dead bodies of your victims. I intentionally changed the name, costume and backstory of my Warshades, who were originally two different characters, to prepare them to go Nictus when GR came out. In short, he's a Nictus who was trying the Warshade path, but accidently bonded with a Skulls gangster he thought he was a hero. Corrupted by his new host, he's decided that the idea of bonding with willing hosts is a good one, but the other beings of the universe are still scum, and he should keep looking out for number one.

Originally Posted by Angelxman81

Im pretty sure DCU Online is going to be a great action based MMO game.
They have DC comics big boys for the histories and art.
And it will bring a lot of people to play it for sure. Devs are taking their time with that game.
Competition is good, you guys dont even tried that game and you are trolling against it just because you love CoX. I love CoX but theres no reason to be disrespectful with other games or devs.
I think that is an inmature behavior.

Originally Posted by Jade_Dragon

The only VEAT I've managed to sideswitch so far is Operative Rachel, who has gone Rogue. She's the evil counterpart of a Claws Scrapper in my SG on that server, so I'm not going to switch her, but I wanted to show her to the folks in my SG since she's a variation on the character they know.

The fun part about her is that she's not at all loyal to Arachnos, she's an AI from the 26th century, brought here by a hacker, who is my Bots/Traps MM. She's one of his robots. I wrote as her backstory that an Arachnos Widow stumbled onto this MM and was killed by him. Being a bit of a sadistic kind of villain, he implanted her dead body with mind control chips, and downloaded Rachel's AI into her. He then sent her back into Arachnos to sabotage it. She's totally loyal to her boss, and both will be staying as Rogues.

I have another Huntsman who is my vigilante hero gone undercover. I haven't gotten him to 20 yet (I rushed Rachel there so I could switch her the moment the game came out) but once I do I'm taking him to Hero, and then Vigilante. He will have a Longbow uniform he can use when going undercover in that organization, but he also has his own costume as well. He's really neither a hero nor a villain, he distrusts both.

That leaves Arachnophelia, who is my main VEAT, a Crab Spider. I'm working on going Rogue with her, but I will probably stop there. I have another lower level version of her on the same server as Rachel, though, so I may decide to go hero with her as a balance. I'll have Huntsman Raynard as the hero and Arachnophelia as the villain on one server, and Arachnophelia as the hero and Rachel as the villain on the other.

Originally Posted by dmcfarland907

Arbiter Raiche got the hell out of town while the getting was good. Hes a vigilante in Paragon City giving the scum what fer as a gun totting badass.

Originally Posted by Organica

With Carnival of Shadow costume parts maybe?