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Quote:Freedom isn't capable of keeping a healthy league going because it has more of a PvPer circle jerk than it does an actual community.Originally Posted by Vexington
Lol. You said competitive while referring to a draft-League.
Personally, I don't anticipate anything staying on Champion. There's no reason for it. The community isn't any larger than Freedom. Smaller, actually... People did move for it, though, so I guess it's okay. Still.. temporary.
From what I hear Champion has more of a community going for it.
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Quote:We'd probably get new PvP hats with the donation funds.Originally Posted by Steampunkette
How about making the "PVP Booster" pack into a donation/fund set up instead?
Have the Devs set out the hat, players buy as many $5 "Packs" as they want, all proceeds go to a PVP retrofit which eats Power and Critter Development for an issue or two of nothing but new content?
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I have to agree with MOD08 on this one. Anything pertaining to PvP is a troll. So lets keep it within the rules and end this thread. -
Freedom PvP is dead. It's just fiteclubbers and us zone farmers now.
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Please don't turn this into another booster pack...
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Quote:hmm, going to disagree with Techbot here. <3 u tech!Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
There already are. Their called IOs and HamiOs. Purples and PvP IOs.
Costumes are the one thing that should never be classed as 'high end' rewards. Doing the ITF for Roman armour? That makes sense. You get a full set of costume parts for doing a thematic, tied in TF.
Doing a MoLGTF for one costume part? No. Just no. Having to pay stupid ammounts of Vanguard merits for the VG armour is bad enough.
I would <3 to be able to participate in a story arch that allowed my character to become an initiate of the Carnival of Shadows and then a full-fledged member.
If the story arch would reward my character with a badge proclaiming my character a "member of the Carnival of Shadows" and various carnival of shadow costume pieces, I would be happier than a pig in mud!
And what better reason to revamp old content than creating new content for it?
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Quote:The first question we should have asked is whether you want to fiteclub in Arena, Farm in RV or actually participate in competitive team PvP with these toons?Originally Posted by wjd
Hey everyone,
I've been playing CoH for a while now but only just recently became interested in trying out PVP. I know that PVE builds don't exactly translate well to PVP, and I don't know much about how to make a pvp toon. So my question is this: Would my mace/wp brute do well in PVP? I want to work on that toon because I love it, but if people respond with "How dare you even suggest such a thing, I'm going to kill you and your family!" I will be willing to try something else, and implore you to leave my family alone because they are decent, hard-working people who have done nothing to you....Anyways, if it is an ok idea I'd appreciate anything from general advice to a build that would work well. If it isn't, here are some other toons I have that I could work on if you think they'd be ok in PVP:
50s
Martial Arts/invuln scrapper
ice/ice blaster
Dark/rad defender
peacebringer (most likely a terrible idea I know)
EM/EA stalker
necro/traps MM
non-50s
nrg/kin corr
pistols/rad corr
emp/nrg def
elec/shield scrapper
kin/fire scrapper
stone/elec tank
elec/battle axe
If these are all terrible ideas for PVP, does anyone have a suggestion other than a Psi/em blaster or a /regen scrapper? -
Quote:Pistols/rad won't work because the damage is negligible; the animations are too long and they root you. Because the Developers thought it a brilliant idea to set damage to relative casting time, Ice for Blasters has been nerfed to hell, the damage is horrible.Originally Posted by wjd
Hey everyone,
I've been playing CoH for a while now but only just recently became interested in trying out PVP. I know that PVE builds don't exactly translate well to PVP, and I don't know much about how to make a pvp toon. So my question is this: Would my mace/wp brute do well in PVP? I want to work on that toon because I love it, but if people respond with "How dare you even suggest such a thing, I'm going to kill you and your family!" I will be willing to try something else, and implore you to leave my family alone because they are decent, hard-working people who have done nothing to you....Anyways, if it is an ok idea I'd appreciate anything from general advice to a build that would work well. If it isn't, here are some other toons I have that I could work on if you think they'd be ok in PVP:
50s
Martial Arts/invuln scrapper
ice/ice blaster
Dark/rad defender
peacebringer (most likely a terrible idea I know)
EM/EA stalker
necro/traps MM
non-50s
nrg/kin corr
pistols/rad corr
emp/nrg def
elec/shield scrapper
kin/fire scrapper
stone/elec tank
elec/battle axe
If these are all terrible ideas for PVP, does anyone have a suggestion other than a Psi/em blaster or a /regen scrapper?
You could make a dark/rad defender work, but you'd be better off with a sonic/therm corr, fire/therm, rad/therm, dark/cold corr, cold/dark defender, etc.
If you don't mind hanging back on a team and playing the griefer. Rad/Sonic defender. Sonic/Rad corrs are fun and they'll be screaming like little girls on vent to kill you.
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Quote:17. Developers and moderators that support the pvp community are fired.Originally Posted by OPTICAL_ILLUSION
i made one, see if you guys can get it stickied please. enjoy!
PvP 2.0 Guide (in progress)
1. your powers perform differently while in a pvp zone. you will be lost, clueless and pwnd for a while.
2. there is way more Travel Suppression in pvp than in pve.
3. Diminishing Returns has made most defense powers laughable and has killed the role of buffers. Melee toons benefit more from buffs. Mids' does not show numbers for DR.
4. the more you heal within x amount of seconds the less effective it is because of Heal Decay.
5. 99% of Slow powers suck because they removed -Max Run Speed.
6. basically all toons have the same mez capabilities now.
7. single target attacks do more damage in pvp. Some attacks are good and make sense but some suck and don't make sense as far as damage is concerned.
8. there are less viable builds now.
9. making a halfway decent pvp build now will require an investment of many billions and require getting accolades.
10. you know pvp is really bad because all of the fanbois and fancatgirls who trolled upset pvpers during i13 all think pvp sucks now as well
11. poor Castle, sorry dude. really.
12. Posi has made promises to improve pvp since issue 13 but has not followed through so it looks like the dev team does not care or are not capable.
13. no mez protection only mez resistance.
14. there is more info but i'll work on it when i have time.
15. when sunstorm was a red name he/she said that they changed pvp because new people could not win at pvp and they wanted new people to get kills so they could get the low drop rate and expensive to buy DRed pvp ios.
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Quote:That's some leap of logic there.Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
The fact that you claim to be waiting here until you find one an MMO with good PvP implies that of all of the MMOs on the market CoX has the best PvP.
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Quote:No.Originally Posted by Gehnen
i13 changes certainly didn't make it fun for me. Hang in there, guys...
many of us plan to leave the moment another MMO with a decent pvp system comes around. CoH developers have already made it perfectly clear that there is not enough incentive to take another look at pvp; despite promising the community to do just that.
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Quote:Yes, I realize if the devs were JUST to remove DR it would screw up shield scaling of the inherent and patron pool shields among other things. But the current implementation of DR is utter crap.Originally Posted by macskull
The concept of DR isn't bad, but it absolutely wrecks the usefulness of most buffers, which is why it needs to go or be heavily reworked.
I'd like to get my mezs back, I'd like them to bring back the speed cap and allow slows to slow, debuffs to debuff and ATs like trollers to once again have a purpose other than a buff bot in arena matches.
Like I said, won't happen; because the pvp community hurt a devs feelings.
I'm venting... mornin'
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Quote:Remove DR, Remove TS, remove HD; keep shields to where they currently are. Roll back to when Blasters actually dished out a significant amount of damage yet were called "Glass Canons" for a reason. Rework mez.Originally Posted by Terror1
They could remove TS(or return to pve TS)+HD from zones and add some of the requested options to arena until they figure out what they are going to do.
etc
None of this will ever happen. It's best to move on if you seriously want a game where the developers care about the pvp community. -
Quote:If you are in the zones simply to farm playable characters for PvPIOs to IO out your PvE build; Farm Zones are the best way to go about earning PvPIOs outside of sitting in arena double logged and AFK farming for several hours.Originally Posted by Psyrene
a billion times better than zones, since you can actually turn off heal decay and travel suppression.
Competitive PvP and KB matches are the worst way to try and earn PvPIOs.
If you are in Zones to PvP... You are doing it wrong.
Also, if you are looking to PvP competitively freedom isn't the place to do that. Freedom has taken Justices place as the fiteclub server. -
Quote:I believe him. dOriginally Posted by DaveMebs
.....I think it was a joke/<
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Quote:But I want to watch a team of 8 with TF on auto cast.Originally Posted by Dexington
Just grab a toon with Total Focus and put it on auto cast and watch that.
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Quote:Pretty impossible right now I was refering to "in the not to distant future."Originally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer
Right now is probably the worst time to start something on test.
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Quote:TheOcho, stay away from the PvP community. We like you too much. d;DOriginally Posted by Moderator 08
That's my personal account, I find throwing sharks at people to be remarkably therapeutic.
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Quote:Make a test league and this won't be treated like another PvP player circle jerk.Originally Posted by XxBudweiser8xX
ya know, Ive been sitting here reading all the replys everyones making and I think
SQUIRREL!! -
Quote:In the case of competitive PvP everyone should have access to them.Originally Posted by Donna_
I like the fact they are so hard to get, It's not the case that everyone should be able to have them....
I won't speculate on the reasons and whyfors of having a Freedom and Champions pvp league and not a Test league....
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Quote:I make hot rage daily in freedom arena chat. Kid seriously needs to layoff teh cupcakes.Originally Posted by macskull
Vex and hot are trying way too hard.
Why the heck is there a Champions PvP league of 70 people? (What is that, 6 teams in total?)
You know if you combined Champions league and Freedoms league onto Test Server..you guys might actually have something resembling competitive PvP.
Hell, I might actually lrn2PvP if there were a Test league.
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Quote:Originally Posted by MrLiberty
So I finally started to grind out some hero merits (because hey there isn't much to do).
1 Hero merit = 11 tip missions or 50 Merits + 20 million influence (Can get 50 merits from Synapse I think which can be run in about an hour to hour and a half). Can earn one once every 20 or 24 hours.
1 Piece of Glad Jav set = 25-30 Hero Merits
1 Full set = 165 Merits
5 Pieces of Apoc = 100 Merits
Say you are looking at a Psi/EM 3 sets of glad javs + 1 set of apocs.
(3 x 165) + 100 = 595 hero merits to have your standard range offensive toon slotted out for PvP.
To be able to do that you'd also need 11.9 Billion influence (if you are converting normal merits) and run the Synapse TF around 600 times. Or you would need to do 6,545 tip missions.
You would need to do the Synapse TF every day for over a year and a half. (Synapse TF is 15 missions long though some are deliveries. Either way adds up to 9,000 missions)
You can only get 5 tips per day, taking you 2 days to earn a hero merit that way. Off tips alone you would need to do 5 missions 1 day, 6 the next and after 3 and a quarter years you'd have your blaster's main attacks PvPIO/Purpled out.
Awesome.
How much collaboration with Arcanaville did it take to arrive at these statistical values and may I see your tables and algorithmic formula?
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If you like and respect mod08 don't ask him to support the PvP community.
He will get canned.
Wow, been a while since i've posted to these forums.....
This is one of those "You know you don't care anymore, when...." moments.
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Quote:Therms make my rad/rad laugh.Originally Posted by macskull
The only thing that's OP about Therm is that you can't simply bring a tray of greens and still win against one. Since inspiration management and finding a good balance between aggressive and defensive are skills that most people still playing this game don't have, people cry about Therms being too good, but it's amazing how a Therm will QQ if you bring the right inspires and play to their weaknesses.
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Quote:I've been trying to get people to do this for months now. Glad someone else has joined the cause. d;DOriginally Posted by TQQ_TIRED
Ok, hear me out, lets just give up on PvP as a whole.[/list]
Have no fear, November is almost here! -
So, I didn't think I could ever be more disappointed with the questionaire than last time the devs had them; but they found a way....