Tainted_Greek_EU

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I understand but don't know for certain that wirlwind from the Speed pool allows powers to be activated whilst moving

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yeah whirlwind allows that as well,although i not know about the snipe since its an interruptible power.

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I've noticed this aswell, if you can time it right it removes all delay!

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there are certain powers that in order to do it you need diagonal movement ..and timing it is really easy

This Wensday Paragon will be invaded by one of Recluses Lackeys the ever hated Jawbreaker!!! This is a call to arms for all Security Level 20 heroes and up. Sign up here and prepare to defend Paragon or die trying. Runners will be shot, we shall fall in honor.

This is the last defense line and we wont allow it to be broken.If you are interested in getting organised sign up here. We ll be organising teams and defense lines for those pesky villains.

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Ok... Idea:

Make blasters snipe power have a 1 hit kill option??

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that would be also nice BUT a blaster who can naturally do special dmg equal to AS with snipe then would go to PvP with a 3acc 3 range combo...combine that with stealth +invis from range...and you got something even worse than stalkers....you wont need run away you are already away....

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There are hundreds of powers and power combinations for all the archetypes that require you to stand still because they are interruptable or have a long animation time.

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A small trick here that some might not know. You noticed me talking at some other thread about the "Grasshopper style", people who team with me (or most of PvPers) will notice me jump when activating powers. This is not by chance. Has 2 reasons.

1) rear jumping while activating power allows to activate the power and remain of range for retaliation

2)The jump and activate trick if done properly negates the animation and thus the character getting to a standstill. That not work for interruptible powers. But works for most other powers i use. I tend to use this way my atomic blast with my defender while jumping and SS passing by a group and jump+activate (in the specific way that you need to do) allows to avoid standstills. a small trick dunno how it helps and if it helps.

Will try export the binds i got cause they are loads lol.

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I know some Empaths use numpad keybinds for healing a specific party member (numpad1 heals member one, numpad2 heals member 2, etc.) - they could be useful in a PvP zone. Presumably, you could use the alt, ctrl, and shift trigger keys to apply different buffs - CM and Fort, for instance. I'm sure someone could knock up the relevant binds... or if no-one picks up the slack, I might be inclined to do so.

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I use combat Empathy binds in numeric keypad for healing specific party members and i am now binding CM as well in that way especially with the new Empathy PvP build (cm 3 slotted for rechrg ftw! ) i ll try create a quick list of them and post

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Although it does feel like there will be annoyance involved if it ever gets worked in, I dont think its worth outright throwing the idea away just because of peoples desire to keep bases oriented entirely on PVP.

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The thing is not me or anyone else says to keep base raids PVP orientated ONLY. PvE raids like the ones you mention in the beginning of your post are a very good idea and would be interesting. But the mix of the two together is where it falls apart for me

PvP reputation was bugged for some time so it would reset randomly so most possibly you or your brother suffered from that.Also PvP rep degrades over time.

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5) I've read through these threads, lots of them and it always seems to boil down to the Stalkers posting how you can supposedly beat them and the Heroes posting how they think it's unfair. Either that or you get some cocky hero type who claims that he's unbelievably hard in PvP and Stalkers don't affect him at all.

[/ QUOTE ] I agree with your post and like what i read but would like to make a comment on that part. I have claimed in the past that my game style is not affected by stalkers and i have reasoned it well. Still is not due to ckckyness but is because is the way i see the stalkers inside the zone. In the teams that i usually team the only stalker i worry about till now meaning i am more alertful compared to others is Obot for reasons that he knows. This is due to the fact that i am well prepared against stalkers and so is my team. A small example from todays action. There is a stalker that claimed he is really good and rarely dies and was in SC today. He based a lot of his gamestyle on teleport hit placate tp out in again and repeat...well i went with my empath in and had a good laugh. When i switched to controller the process was simple. He tp in take the hit on me i would fear and toggle drop and immediately queue tp so by the time he came back he was toggle dropped with half a bar of hp and feared...he died at least 4 times easily and was thinking very very hard before attacking. The thing is stalkers are indeed an AT of patience and also an AT that is more PvP viable due to its nature and thats why most people have issues against stalkers. Most people that pick a stalker are aware that its a pvp AT mostly so they go prepared in the zone.

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Well I dont celebrate christmas but I do celebrate full stop

So Ill make a show if I can and hope to see lots of you there. Im sure you will accept a merry christmas and well wish from a buddhist wont you?

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i like AS please not nerf it i mean stalkers most of time in organised times are cannon fodder if not well prepared....there are many ways that you can use to counter them and so many powers that are stalker hunterish (force bubbles,hurricane, quicksand and more.And they so much fun when they try kill ya and then you watch them run and vanish....

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but a Stalker I went up against the other night would AS, immediately use TP (unsuppressed unlike other travel powers) then placate and hide. It doesn't really give alot of opportunity to strike back, especially when you're a squishy.

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Yeah i know what you mean...for these stalkers most effective sequence combo is fear-toggle droppers-holds-dmg

If they got fear res then you need coordinate toggle drops with placing holds.Tricky to pull but very effective.

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It was penny arcade. I have that shirt

And I was killed by assasin's strike in mid-superjump - if that's standing around..

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you were killed in mid because you were standing still when the animation started

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I'd love to know if it was his continuing behaviour or one particluar incident that finally made you throw in the towel TG.

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it was a mix tbh. I not wanna in details just got to my own limits as a person and thats it.

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My, my. You DO like to make up word definitions as you go along. Hoverbots aren't mobs now? Is that what you're implying?

The idea, as you will recall, wasn't mine and originated from the American boards. I transplated it here and was deliberately reluctant to add specifics. Forums are usually heavily populated by people who fix on specifics and I wasn't interested in a debate about how exactly it would work, but simply the concept of mixing PvE and PvP.

I think I said this already, clearly you didn't grasp it first time around.

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i still havent seen the original idea. The problem is how this will work so specifics in this case are necessary cause this is where the problem lies as well. I grasp more than enough seeing you not actually try explain anything about the idea for us to understand and you keep going on what you inteneded and not intended

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best of luck in all that j00 d0 etc.

[/ QUOTE ] and for a moment there i got worried you had lost your touch

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What strikes me about Stalkers is that they are very specialised for PvP right out of the box. With just their basic abilities you have an advantage against PvE "toe dippers" who will be unlikely to have much +Perception. I think this leads many people to the conclusion that they are horribly overpowered. It also leads many Stalkers to think that they are overly powerful, which can have a disastorous results

I'm certainly having little problems seeing and killing Stalkers with the PvP build I'm putting together. I think the main p[roblem is that people just aren't aware enough about what is needed to succeed in CoH PvP.

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well this sums it perfectly for me regarding the stalkers and the heroes that face stalkers

The thing is i actually post only after you repeat yourself so we are the ones that actually get it .And dear man i try back away from keyboard but everytime i do another post pops up

I would say you repeat the same things but apparently you dont cause you keep changing the original suggestion from mob spawning generator to a hoverbot then to a hoverbot spawnning generator and prolly next is a bunch of smurfs throwing candy (defo overpowered).

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i personally wont give up, no matter how bad someone is, there is always some good there. its just a matter of finding and nurturing that, let those who are without sin...

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when i say i give up i mean i give up from making this a personal crusade or so. I never cease to look for good in others no matter what. Plus i got more than enough sins so i wont be the one casting the stone

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2 Blappers. Should we continue?

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2 blappers can bring down a target with one attack each? Out of curiousity, which attack?

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Your question was bringing down another AT in pairs in 3 seconds not with two attacks.

On another note just putting my own wishes here to Syn.Happy Birthday Syn. Hope you have a great day and the best wishes for your birthday

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thank you i ll be making posts with more details

Btw check the date has been officially changed for the 27th!!

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wont see me till 9pm then UK time :/ have fun........

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we ll still be there Tyl a party withouth you spamming it is no party

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has anyone tried positive reinforcement? praising the good. ignoring the bad? the other night he was saying on arena chat that he was kicked from a team for trying to contribute to the team, a stone tank was 'tanking' all others were either afk or leeching. He was kicked purely for trying to play his part in the team. I for one think that is awful. irrespective of past actions, people respond better to a positive remark rather than a negative one. he may have 'a way to go' but this does nothing to help

(my 2p worth)

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trust me i have done this A LOT. and thats why i personally give up.

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Which AT other than stalkers can, if working in pairs bring down a member of another AT in under 3 seconds.

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Simple answer... good Scrappers.

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Simple and false. "Good" only goes as far as in-game physics allow. Name the scrapper attack that does more than half the stalkers hit points in damage at lvl30. Remember, you don't know when he's coming, you can't charge it up with half a dozen damage insps and you only get one hit.

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Apparently you havent met good scrappers.Have a word with Chives i suggest or maybe Slim Shaolin they can give you some tips.Game physics has nothing to do with being good. Its all about the player.2 scrappers with the perfect PvPbuilds one totally new to PvP and one really experienced PvPer...the first will survive barely or be cannon fodder the second one will rip the place apart.

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And nobody thinks this is a bit of an over the top amount of preperation in order to take on ONE AT?

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This is not overall preparation these are common ways to deal with stalkers. Following some of them might actually help you.


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So, given you don't know where your enemy is, and don't know when he's going to strike, you haven't respecced for a PvP build and there's no one with the appropriate power sets in the zone, when IS the right time to use them?

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In all the time i PvP this hasnt happen to me.Simply because i PvP for the fun and i not try go solo, i am always prepared in the PvP zones i go and leaving the build outside i rarely stand still long enough to be a target. I mainly wait the stalkers to attack someone else for me to trap them

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And this is where it becomes unacceptable. We don't all have a toon we can dedicate to PvP.

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I not see the problem. Dedicating a toon to PvP means you want to be good at it and you are willing to go all PvP. Keeping it casual means you are there for the fun and you should expect the dedicated PvPers to have an advantage over you. This is not irrational. Otherwise we should only fight with brawl in the PvP zones. You are telling us here your problem is that you wanna kill a lot but you wanna do it casually? Not likely to happen because the people that spend a lot of time inside the PvP zones are dedicated to it and simply are on a different level. There is nothing wrong to that tbh.