Steele_Magnolia

Another major problem:

Clicking on a thread that has new posts no longer takes you to the new posts, it takes you to the first post on the thread. You lose your place in the thread.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

These new forums are slower, harder to read (smaller text), and have a learning curve. If they weren't so annoyingly slow I think I could get used to them, but the slow loads are just killer.

[color:yellow]Likes[/color]

• Background color

[*]More options in mailbox[/list]
[color:yellow]Major Dislikes[/color]

• Smaller Text Windows
• Smaller Font, hard to read
• Slower to load
• Graphics in signature
• Where are our avatars
• (Added)And obviously code is screwed up.

[color:yellow]Minor Dislikes[/color]

• Confusion of not having a single front page
• Cumbersome Mailbox

[color:yellow]Switchover Problems[/color]

• 1000+ PMs I deleted in the last few months returned to my inbox, many were duped.
• PMs in my inbox and outbox that weren't addressed to me

The rest for me seems to be a learning curve. There may be more, but this is it for me so far.

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Would appreciate an invite please for @Buckeye-

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Sent.

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I'll take an invite steele. The more channels the marrier.

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Sent.

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I'd like an invite please Steele, global is @Aoide Muse

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Invite sent.

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Edit: Nor was I unfair. The person I silenced was using foul language with nearly every line he typed. The other person wasn't. The discussion, about television shows, wasn't the problem. One person's language was.

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You're kidding right? Seriously kidding. After a few people requoted what the other party said you are claiming ignorance and stating you did not see what they said when you could have CLEARLY scrolled up a few lines and seen the evidence. Tell me you are not blind to one person's foul. Really, for someone who is diligently watching the channel to catch any infraction of the EULA, tell me you really didn't miss it. Give me a break. You saw it, you ignore it. You were unfair.

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I didn't see anyone quote it, I saw them say the other person was talking foul too but I didn't see anything like that in the chat that was in the channel from the point I logged on. I can't scroll back and read what happened before I logged on. From the point I logged on I only saw one person using foul language - repeatedly.

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This devolved into criticism of me, my morals, my standards, my enforcement of the EULA. I left the channel. I don't see the problem. End of story. You have the LBx channel. Let the foul language and porn discussions with XXX language commence without any attempt at restriction now.

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Actually, we laughed at the fact that you were trying to police the EULA. That is not your job, but if you feel the need to take on that responsibility, more power to you, but you are going about it all wrong. So I will question your standards... PETITION THEM. Yes, you were a mod and if it bothered you that much, PETITION THEM. Don't even give them the chance by silencing them. Because if they are violating the EULA, PETITION THEM. Or, do what you could have done to begin with... TURN your filter on. BUT you took it off, purposely so that you could find the culprits and enforce your rule of law over them. Because you are the EULA enforcer. You know what to do.

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As a moderator I felt that I had a responsibility to try to enforce a minimum standard: The EULA. I chose to use short silences to do so. On more than one occasion I explained than the EULA did apply to global channels, even private ones, and that people who spoke openly using foul language or about topics in violation of the EULA were at risk of being petitioned. On a channel with nearly 2500 people it only takes one to petition and get a ban.

Should I simply have petitioned and not warned people? Maybe I should have. I thought I was being courteous. Perhaps I was too kind. That's irrelevant now.

When I first started silencing the foul language and porn chatter was even worse than it is now. That's also irrelevant now. It's am no longer a moderator. I no longer feel conflicted about responsibility for protecting minors, respecting the rules of the game with regards to the channel, and my responsibilities there as I interpreted them.

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So, Rule #3 of the Code of Conduct: You may not use sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive language.

And to further clarify, the EULA which you should know by now perfectly:

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(k) In the Game(s), in-game characters have the privilege of sending server wide messages called 'Global Chat.' With this privilege comes a high level of responsibility on the part of the user. Due to the fact that this communication channel has the ability to impact every player on the server, NC Interactive will not tolerate any inappropriate behavior of any sort in this chat channel. This includes but is not limited to: inappropriate language of any sort or any attempt to escape the profanity filter, inappropriate or vulgar content of any sort, repeated 'spamming,' or 'flooding' of the global chat channel, or any other conduct determined to be inappropriate by NC Interactive Support, in its sole discretion. Any violation of this term or rules of conduct may, in the sole discretion of NC Interactive, lead to the temporary removal of the character's ability to communicate, the Account being suspended for a set period of time, or lead to permanent Account closure. We may record or monitor the chat to assist us in this process.

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Exactly.

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I tell you what tho, you're violating #1 right now to a lot of people of the Code of Conduct: While playing City of Heroes, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players.

Should I petition you? No, I will just move along and ignore you. Because it will be easier than dealing with the drama that you are starting.

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And I find it hypocritical of you to quote the EULA at me, to say that I am somehow violating it, when you were upset with me for trying to enforce it and advocating no enforcement at all. This is incomprehensible to me.

Just let it go. This isn't going anywhere productive.

Thanks for the good wishes on the new channel. Good luck with LBx and it's next incarnation when it is renamed.

I quit the channel. What more do you want?

Edit: Nor was I unfair. The person I silenced was using foul language with nearly every line he typed. The other person wasn't. The discussion, about television shows, wasn't the problem. One person's language was.

This devolved into criticism of me, my morals, my standards, my enforcement of the EULA. I left the channel. I don't see the problem. End of story. You have the LBx channel. Let the foul language and porn discussions with XXX language commence without any attempt at restriction now. Enjoy, you have what you want.

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I tried, being a mod of LBx, to make it easier to be able to get events, but was told off, so I won't be joining this channel, as per the results of the discussion with Madame Magnolia.

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After unsilencing someone I had silenced and then questioning my integrity, yes. I was rather unhappy about that.

I will still be passing MS Raid times to Jomhon for posting in LBx.

I am starting a new global channel for Liberty, Liberty's Channel.

This channel will differ from LBx and others in that it will be kid-friendly and easy on the eyes for those who don't like the foul language and discussions that so frequently crop up there. The EULA will be enforced in this channel.

What will be allowed in the channel:<ul type="square">[*]Task Forces, Monster Teams, Teams in general[*]Game discussion[*]Chat - As long as the EULA isn't violated.[/list]
I don't expect this to become "the" channel, nor a huge population, but I do believe there are others like me who do not like the foul language and discussions that are so frequent on LBx and other channels. There currently is no kid-friendly channel that I know of. The language filter is all but useless. /gignore is a useful tool that silences someone but someone else inevitably crops up in their place.

The channel will be private. I will be giving moderatorship to only those I personally know and trust. There will be no ninja mods to ruin it. Mothership raid times will be posted in the MOTD as well in the thread on the forums (and passed to a mod in LBx to be posted there).

If you are interested in joining please post your global here or send a tell to @Steele Magnolia.

If you are not interested in the channel, please do not post.

Steele_Magnolia
@Steele Magnolia

Things to do:

1. Get a new computer.
2. Get a new computer!
3. GET A NEW COMPUTER!!!

Forumapocalypse is happening on my birthday. Guess what I'm getting for my birthday present.

Eagerly awaiting next part.

Been there, done that, have the T-Shirt.

If we answer enough questions they will learn. Then perhaps they leave the AE building, try new material, become better players, and won't be AE babies anymore.

That's the goal.

I remember being a non-AE baby. Oh, Dr. Vahz and your flies.... the horrible thing he did. My Non-AE baby story from almost 5 years ago.... I was playing my Mind/Kin controller and had recently got my brand new Insect cape, you know the one, when it had just entered the game. Coincidentally this was about the same time I had my Dr. Vahz arc but I wasn't able to solo the AV (he didn't come in EB version then). Eventually I joined a PUG.

PUG Dude: "Nice cape."

Me: "Thanks, but I wish it didn't have flies." and "Gosh, I just can't seem to do anything without running out of endurance anymore, did Statesman nerf Controllers too?"

Seriously. I didn't know about the forums or patchnotes back then.

So they helped me whack Dr. Vahz and get rid of the flies. Yeah, I was a non-AE baby once upon a time. So young, so innocent, but I did know what side-kicking was and my blaster had a real understanding of perma-debt.

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How does one get inducted or join P.E.R.C? Or where can I read up more about them?

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Contact the PERC 1st Chair Ice_Knight.

He liked my arc and it had Nemesis in it.

Try to look at this as an opportunity to teach and bring these players into the fold. Explain the game (zones, enhancements, powers, tactics, mobs, missions) and show them how much fun it can be. Make new friends.

Show them why they should stay. AE powerleveling isn't a reason to renew. The rest of the game and the people who play it is.

Let's celebrate my birthday!

<ul type="square">[*]What: Rikti Mothership Raids
[*]Where: Rikti Warzone
[*]Who: Heroes and Villains 35-50
[*]Raid Leaders: Team Liberty
[*]Date: 07/29/2009 Wednesday
[*]When: 9:00pm EST[/list]

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Cross-Server PVE. Basically, I want you to be able to go to Portal Corp, shift from the Pinnacle to the Virtue dimension (or whatever) and play with friends' characters on other servers. They'd need to support auto-naming when you move to parallel worlds. When you are not on your native dimension (server) you'd automatically be Blackhawk@Infinity if you are usually Blackhawk on Infinity. Better yet, each dimension would have a code name like in the comics. Blawkhawk@PI or Blackhawk@07 or something short would be cool.

Of course, the mechanics of what happens when you disconnect, what happens with your base access (I'd go with "no access") and checks for not letting people join SGs on other servers, and how the authentication of your character and how simple updates to your character would be propogated and saved .... that could be a serious pain. I'm sure I havent even considered but a small fraction of the issues.

However, it would rock!

Lewis

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This more than anything else.

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Many people on the forums have been whining on about how the AE is killing the game when they fail to realize that only the AE babies are getting bored and leaving not the realy players like myself and many many others still playing this game today.

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Exactly.

60 months and still here. My husband and our friends who cofounded our SG on Pinnacle have 61 months, we're all still here. My SG coleader on Liberty has 63 months, he's still here. I have dozens of other friends on Liberty and Virtue who range from 48-62 months and they're still here.

AE came. AE is still here. So are we. The AE babies? Some are still here, some PL'd to 50 repeatedly and got bored and left.

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Give AE time to die out a bit. Those that PL their characters will be shocked at CoH's lack of extensive end-game content and begin wondering what the point of leveling to 50 really is.

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The point of getting to 50 is to enjoy the character. Whether it's TFs, MS and Hami raids, invasions, roleplaying, completing story arcs you haven't finished, hanging out with friends, whatever. Or try a new powerset and AT combo. I have dozens of alts and I am not bored. With so many options, unlike other games where it's "Tank, Mage, or Cleric" and there is no difference between one Tank and another here there is a difference between one Tank and another.

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Global Channels are awesome. Even on a less-active server like infinity, I have no problem doing a daily TF. In fact, I often have to turn down team invites because I'm busy helping SG mates work out builds.

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Global channels are the key to finding activity if you're finding yourself at odds for teaming. If you play on Liberty send me a tell in game to @Steele Magnolia for an invite to LBx.

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As a farmer, I believe issue 16 will drastically change the atmosphere of AE and farming. Those that have nothing to contribute i.e. PL lowbies will find it increasingly difficult to get on a team - farmers are nice people, but we aren't going to work for free.

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I don't run farms, but I agree. Farmers won't have any incentive to carry deadweight anymore.

Pictures linked from another thread:

http://www.gamershell.com/pc/city_of...reenshots.html

/em weeps with joy

Thank you, thank you Devs!

I'm also not getting them and they are not in my spam folder.

I still use the same email address I've had for the last 5 years since I started playing the game. I previously received game emails, but stopped getting emails a year or so ago. I only get the bug and petition reports now.

These rewards look great! Thanks for the fun rewards, devs!

And I say piffle to the suggestion to turn them off so Eiokochan can catch up. The developers don't "value him less" than any other player. That's ridiculously emo. The level of hyperbole is getting pretty high. It's almost enough to drown.