Stalk_obot_EU

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tried, on stalker.. doesnt perma. 3 slot recharge = perma, with about 5-8 second overlap.

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2 even level SOs on a lvl 50 scrapper is perma and has a 5-10 second overlap without hasten

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Dr Death, all this info is wrong.

All Dominator single target Holds have a duration of 12 seconds, all same magnitude.

It seems to me in general Ice itself is one of the better sets for PvP, at least on paper, mostly for the insane amount of -Recharge it can generate.

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In Dr Deaths defence I did check the herobuilder (not definative I know) and it did have ice hold as 10 second duration and grav as 15, if we actually had information in game regarding the powers (accurate info that is not like the crap we actually ge in the power info) we could make builds not based on guesswork

drop boxing and tough IMO as well as revive and throw in the fitness pool, buying awakens is cheaper than using a powerslot

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and as previously mentioned, u cant perma in PvP (think ur immune to a new hold for 4 secs or something, but dont sue me if the number is incorrect)

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There is a hold supression that kicks in, Im not too sure what it is but a powerboosted controller can whack on enough holds to permahold me much to my dismay. I presume the supression ends before the hold has actually worn off, im not sure on the dynamics of it.

put 3acc and 3recharge in Linering Rad, this is awesome and super annoying in PVP and you want it to hit and often

Strike my name off, I spent all last week lurking the arenas, had no one else turn up and got penalised for it as no results to report. I have zero desire to do that again. Perhaps when the world cup is over something else could be arranged.

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Looking good, if a bit endurance intensive. But that can always be adjusted by slotting if it becomes a problem. The patron armors are surprisingly good but I think I'd rather keep Shiver than Chilling Embrace for PvP purposes.

When I hit 50, I think I'll make a full PvP build and ditch Glacier, Jack Frost and the Mu pet in favor of Chilling Embrace and Medicine pool. Jack seems almost a non factor in zone and team PvP because of his stupid tendency to stay at range shooting the ineffective ice bolt.

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I probably will ditch jack frost at 50 too but CE is staying in as is an autohit stacked with the autohit from AA, should be really annoying

everyone get a full compliment of nukes before you begin....

Not entirely sure how I lost a match seeings as I was just about the only person to turn up for my fights on both sides. Im fairly sure that being a stand in shouldnt have knocked a life off me

Given the drubbing you and eros gave my scrapper when testing I resolved to make my own ice/ice Dom, this is an early version which will get tweaked and is a PVP spec build but will work just fine in PVE. Depending on how I find my attack chain I may drop shiver for patron armour.

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Name: Chiller-Queen
Level: 50
Archetype: Dominator
Primary: Ice Control
Secondary: Icy Assault
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01) --> Block of Ice==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Hold(3) Hold(5) Rechg(39)
01) --> Ice Bolt==> Acc(1) Acc(5) Dmg(7) Dmg(7) Slow(50)
02) --> Chilblain==> Acc(2) Acc(9)
04) --> Ice Sword==> Acc(4) Acc(9) Dmg(11) Dmg(11) Slow(13) Rechg(13)
06) --> Hasten==> Rechg(6) Rechg(15) Rechg(15)
08) --> Arctic Air==> EndRdx(8) EndRdx(17) EndRdx(17) ConfDur(39) ConfDur(40)
10) --> Ice Blast==> Acc(10) Acc(19) Dmg(19) Dmg(21) Dmg(21) Slow(25)
12) --> Ice Slick==> Rechg(12) Rechg(25) Rechg(31)
14) --> Super Speed==> EndRdx(14) Run(34) Run(48)
16) --> Power Boost==> Rechg(16) Rechg(31) Rechg(33)
18) --> Hurdle==> Jump(18) Jump(43)
20) --> Health==> Heal(20) Heal(33) Heal(33)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22) EndMod(23) EndMod(23)
24) --> Aid Other==> Heal(24)
26) --> Glacier==> Acc(26) Acc(27) Hold(27) Hold(29) Rechg(29) Rechg(31)
28) --> Chilling Embrace==> EndRdx(28) EndRdx(34) Slow(34) Slow(37)
30) --> Aid Self==> Rechg(30) Rechg(45) Heal(45) Heal(45) IntRdx(46) IntRdx(46)
32) --> Jack Frost==> Acc(32) Acc(39) Dmg(40) Dmg(40)
35) --> Greater Ice Sword==> Acc(35) Acc(36) Dmg(36) Dmg(36) Dmg(37) Rechg(37)
38) --> Bitter Ice Blast==> Acc(38) Acc(42) Dmg(42) Dmg(42) Rechg(43) Dmg(43)
41) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(41) Jump(46)
44) --> Super Jump==> EndRdx(44)
47) --> Shiver==> Acc(47) Acc(48) Rechg(48) Slow(50)
49) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(49) EndRdx(50)

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Well, at least that's how AoE vs Melee defence was explained to players around the time when defence stacking was the issue at hand... what was that, I4 or I5?

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I suspect its probably buggered, for example I built a AR/Dark with the whole premise of fearing stormies then beanbag. Worked wonderfully Vs Tsoo sorcerers using hurricane however in PVP fear actually grants your opponent disorient protections. This is a known bug and has been on their list of things to fix for some time now (yet hasnt)

gratz man

you mean like this?

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...4-00-42-24.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...4-00-43-24.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...4-00-43-43.jpg

that was defiant though and 4 of us took both down (actually we killed every single AV on defiant that night with the exception of lusca )

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Not AOEs per se, cones and aoes which are more prevailant than you may think, ripper is a cone attack as is throw spines. From corrupter sets dark blast has 4 (3 cones 1 aoe) in primary (Im not not counting nukes btw) 2 in energy blast, 4 in AR, 3 in fire (would ahve sworn this would ahve been more ) 2 in ice, 3 in rad blast, 3 in sonic. this is a hell of a lot of attacks you are gimping yourself against by ignoring a specific power.



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Not the case I beleive, for example my SR in Sirens which runs awesome defence + double stacked parry which gives me about 80% melee def was virtually ALWAYS hit by a lvl 20 (SO-less) stalkers shadow maul which is a melee cone attack. Whether this is how melee cones are supposed to be working is anyones guess in i7

get warburg nukes, use them then if nessessary go back and pick more up

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Well i have a spine/ninj on union and she pwns alot but stalkers are only really good at ganking to be honest but i have seen hero teams with empaths blasters and scrappers together i get near the empath and i get sniped by the blasters and defenders while getting impaled and Kbed (no prtoection from kuji in rin to kb ) so u can say that all chars can pvp and i've seen tankers pwning loads of ppl my m8 is a fire/ss and he has perma rage and burn on loads so u cant AS him without feeling his Burn. have u seen a /Sr scrapper btw if they have their defenses 3 SO slotted for defense ive seen someone have like 6 stalkers all ASing and unfortunately missing him while the brute is trying to SMASH! the scrapper and got a few measly hits in on him.
Just my opinion

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Was that scrapper Stryka by any chance? Its my new one from the US (BS/SR) and I remember an incident like that from the other day, I manage to keep parry double stacked most of the time

The lack of KB protection in ninj is a problem as most will have to go for acrobatics which means sj for the travel which brings with it "problems" If you get web grenaded you are pretty much done for. I alwasy recommend speed on stalkers, they are stikers not scrapper and thats how I build them. Try a EM/EA in PVP gin, its a lot of fun and with my build you can run straight through hurricane with ET loaded and land a hit and be miles away before they even notice (also note EA has the best mez protection toggle in the game, immune to knockback, tp foe, repel etc etc.

Heres my build, I built it like this as I played it (not when i took the slots though ) and died very rarely and I did all my own missions too so didnt steal a few levels here to set myself up Its viable in pvp and pve so long as you play it right (run away lots )

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Name: Stryka
Level: 41
Archetype: Stalker
Primary: Energy Melee
Secondary: Energy Aura
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01) --> Energy Punch==> Acc(1) Acc(5) Dmg(25) Dmg(27) Dmg(37)
01) --> Hide==> DefBuf(1) DefBuf(33)
02) --> Bone Smasher==> Acc(2) Acc(3) Dmg(3) Dmg(5) Dmg(11) Rechg(27)
04) --> Barrage==> Acc(4) Dmg(34)
06) --> Assassin's Strike==> Acc(6) Acc(7) Dmg(7) Dmg(9) Dmg(9) Rechg(34)
08) --> Build Up==> Rechg(8) Rechg(11) Rechg(15)
10) --> Hurdle==> Jump(10) Jump(19) Jump(19)
12) --> Hasten==> Rechg(12) Rechg(13) Rechg(13)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14) Run(15) EndRdx(40)
16) --> Placate==> Rechg(16) Rechg(17) Rechg(17)
18) --> Entropy Shield==> EndRdx(18) EndRdx(33)
20) --> Health==> Heal(20) Heal(21) Heal(21)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22) EndMod(23) EndMod(23)
24) --> Stealth==> EndRdx(24) EndRdx(25)
26) --> Grant Invisibility==> DefBuf(26)
28) --> Energy Transfer==> Acc(28) Acc(29) Dmg(29) Dmg(31) Dmg(33) Rechg(34)
30) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(30) Jump(31) Jump(31)
32) --> Stun==> Acc(32)
35) --> Total Focus==> Acc(35) Acc(36) Dmg(36) Dmg(36) Dmg(37) Rechg(37)
38) --> Overload==> DefBuf(38) DefBuf(39) DefBuf(39) Rechg(39) Rechg(40) Rechg(40)

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With the Issue 7 changes to domination in PvP Dominators are now extremely potent.

You have to play them very aggressively and choose power pools which will help keep you alive, if you manage to do that it is a powerful AT to play.

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Doms can be insanely powerful, when I7 hit test and various villains were in RV checking it out the heros literally had to resort to "all kill bill quick" as though 'squishy' he was a major pain in the proverbial.

Dominators are a great pvp build but they do seem to be in the smallest numbers in the pvp zones which is a shame as they are so good. I ahve an ice/ice on the way up too

I would say fit in heal self on a dominator build at all cost as it allows you to keep building that domination

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Oh and I dont think you should fear the immob from spines, its rather that nasty -fly (which i think breakfree doesnt solve, but could be wrong)

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Nope you cant break free from -fly, -jump, slows etc

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Dark armour, Ninjitsu and super reflexes all have +perception. Throw in black scorpion patron power OR web grenade temp powers OR fly temp power OR fly travel power OR impale, the empath is owned

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Your quoting form theory. Im quoting from practice. Dont see many stalkers taking the time to fly, find me and execute an AS when 1) I can see them, 2) The blasters in my team can see them, 3) Interrupt on Fly is annoying, you have to be absolutely still to execute an interruptable power, hence i get a few more seconds to react, 4) Chap has Air Superiority. Which commonly lands the squishy stalker amongst my trigger happy teamates below.

Oh, and please throw in a Patron power in Sirens Call and see how much use that is.

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Please feel free to drop by sirens on defiant, my flying spines stalke is more than adept at ASing targets in the air, indeed it is one of the more fun things to do in the game As for air suping stalk into the waiting throngs of heroes below Im afraid that Stalks superspeed is quite fast enough Besides which I could just impale you and drop you into the hoards of villains waiting below......

I beleive end drain would be a good way of approaching the issue of the hamidon firing while held, he cant attack with no endurance and this is an established method amongst some US SGs who farm hami and this was before the changes in end drain shifted in our favour (% not a set number)

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Not the only one - i want to be recognised as best .

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hmm for that to happen I presume Max must have sold his account to a good player

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You wouldnt have happened to seen any good players recently .

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What are you saying? that you are strategically removing the good players from the game in an attempt to lower the playing feild to your meagre abilities in order to fulfil your desire to be proclaimed as the best?

I ahve outleveled the contact and am in need of the badge from "The Hydra Dimension" for my accolade. Anyone got this or will be running through the arc soon?

Never mind I found it

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Not the only one - i want to be recognised as best .

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hmm for that to happen I presume Max must have sold his account to a good player

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And how do you do that when hes flying invised above the blasters :P

Everyone talks about how to see Stalkers... But the stealth pool isnt for stalkers alone. The only thing i wish for, when playing chap is that all the people that scream 'CM/Fort pls!!!!!' would actually think of empaths when PvP respeccing and pick up grant invis!

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And having +perception isnt a hero only thing, neither is fly...There are stalkers who can see straight through superior invisibility and indeed through other stalkers Hide+Stealth in warburg.

The PA drop is seemingly useless now, check the last attempted raid on defiant, they no longer agro the mitos.