My i7 ice/ice respec


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I was having a horrible time leveling my ice/ice dominator from 40-41. Strange really because I felt quite strong all of the 30s. Most of it was laggy and spider-infested Grandville, with more outdoor deaths I've had quite possibly ever, even with my first ever character in Hollows. But I was also having a surprisingly bad time in PUGs. It got to the point where playing the character felt like a chore, so I sold out, chose Scirocco as my patron and respecced a bit out of concept. Since then I've had a great time and am now halfways to 43.

It wasn't a huge change, just swapped Swift, Flash Freeze, Recall Friend, Hover and Flight for Hurdle, Combat Jumping, Super Jump, Hasten and Super Speed. I was initially thinking Acrobatics instead of Super Speed but decided the stealth in Super Speed would be better for my overall survivability. It seems to have worked, I only have had one outdoor death since the respec and that was completely unavoidable. I will still get Acrobatics at 47 or 49.

So here's the build, feel free to comment. The respec was a very spur of the moment thing, so I'm surprised I didn't screw it up completely.

The bottom line for me was that Flight and Hover just weren't up to par as sole movement powers. 3-slotted Hover was too slow in fights and I couldn't afford to slot Fly at all. I didn't have any stealth powers so when approaching missions in tricky places and freezing out because of lag, I would get web grenaded and ganked by +6 Arachnos. Also, getting Hasten made an incredible difference to my controlling ability. I am still bitter about having burning hands, though.

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Name: jadisi7
Level: 42
Archetype: Dominator
Primary: Ice Control
Secondary: Icy Assault
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01) --> Block of Ice==> Acc(1) Hold(3) Hold(3) Hold(7) Rechg(11) Rechg(37)
01) --> Ice Bolt==> Acc(1) EndRdx(7)
02) --> Ice Sword==> Acc(2) EndRdx(5) Dmg(15) Dmg(17) Dmg(19)
04) --> Chilblain==> Acc(4) Acc(5)
06) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(6)
08) --> Arctic Air==> EndRdx(8) EndRdx(9) EndRdx(9) ConfDur(34) ConfDur(34) ConfDur(34)
10) --> Ice Blast==> Acc(10) EndRdx(11) Dmg(15) Dmg(17) Dmg(19) Rechg(37)
12) --> Ice Slick==> Rechg(12) Rechg(13) Rechg(13)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Hurdle==> Jump(16)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Power Boost==> Rechg(22) Rechg(23) Rechg(23)
24) --> Hasten==> Rechg(24) Rechg(25) Rechg(25)
26) --> Glacier==> Acc(26) Acc(27) Hold(27) Hold(29) Rechg(31) Rechg(31)
28) --> Shiver==> Acc(28) Acc(29) Rechg(31) EndRdx(40)
30) --> Super Speed==> EndRdx(30)
32) --> Jack Frost==> Acc(32) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(33)
35) --> Greater Ice Sword==> Acc(35) EndRdx(36) Dmg(36) Dmg(36) Dmg(37)
38) --> Bitter Ice Blast==> Acc(38) EndRdx(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(40) Rechg(40)
41) --> Charged Armor ==> Endrdx(41) DamRes(42) DamRes(42) DamRes(42)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Domination==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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It's PvE but meant to be PvP capable too. Once I get Power Sink I will switch the endurance reductions in attacks for second accuracies. Shiver is there for PvP considerations, but it's also a big part of my contribution to AV/Hero fights so I'm happy with it.


 

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No ice sword circle? It's getting the animation delay removed in few patches time...


 

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I know, caused me a bit of a pang when I read about it. I used to have ISC and it's one of the most graceful attacks in the game, and good damage for a dom AoE. I originally respecced it out because of the pause but to be honest I feel that the all single target attacks principle is working pretty well for me. Less aggro and more slots to spare too. And also because Ice doesn't have the same kind of 100% damage mitigation powers that some other sets do. Say, my Plant could throw Seeds and hold the few that it could have missed and then jump in and PbAoE at my leisure. When I had Ice Sword Circle I'd jump in the middle of my Ice Slick with Arctic Air on and there would all too often be someone getting up at the wrong moment and murdering me with their huge melee attack that stuns. Especially when fighting higher level mobs, when Ice Slick is less effective.


 

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Given the drubbing you and eros gave my scrapper when testing I resolved to make my own ice/ice Dom, this is an early version which will get tweaked and is a PVP spec build but will work just fine in PVE. Depending on how I find my attack chain I may drop shiver for patron armour.

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Name: Chiller-Queen
Level: 50
Archetype: Dominator
Primary: Ice Control
Secondary: Icy Assault
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01) --> Block of Ice==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Hold(3) Hold(5) Rechg(39)
01) --> Ice Bolt==> Acc(1) Acc(5) Dmg(7) Dmg(7) Slow(50)
02) --> Chilblain==> Acc(2) Acc(9)
04) --> Ice Sword==> Acc(4) Acc(9) Dmg(11) Dmg(11) Slow(13) Rechg(13)
06) --> Hasten==> Rechg(6) Rechg(15) Rechg(15)
08) --> Arctic Air==> EndRdx(8) EndRdx(17) EndRdx(17) ConfDur(39) ConfDur(40)
10) --> Ice Blast==> Acc(10) Acc(19) Dmg(19) Dmg(21) Dmg(21) Slow(25)
12) --> Ice Slick==> Rechg(12) Rechg(25) Rechg(31)
14) --> Super Speed==> EndRdx(14) Run(34) Run(48)
16) --> Power Boost==> Rechg(16) Rechg(31) Rechg(33)
18) --> Hurdle==> Jump(18) Jump(43)
20) --> Health==> Heal(20) Heal(33) Heal(33)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22) EndMod(23) EndMod(23)
24) --> Aid Other==> Heal(24)
26) --> Glacier==> Acc(26) Acc(27) Hold(27) Hold(29) Rechg(29) Rechg(31)
28) --> Chilling Embrace==> EndRdx(28) EndRdx(34) Slow(34) Slow(37)
30) --> Aid Self==> Rechg(30) Rechg(45) Heal(45) Heal(45) IntRdx(46) IntRdx(46)
32) --> Jack Frost==> Acc(32) Acc(39) Dmg(40) Dmg(40)
35) --> Greater Ice Sword==> Acc(35) Acc(36) Dmg(36) Dmg(36) Dmg(37) Rechg(37)
38) --> Bitter Ice Blast==> Acc(38) Acc(42) Dmg(42) Dmg(42) Rechg(43) Dmg(43)
41) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(41) Jump(46)
44) --> Super Jump==> EndRdx(44)
47) --> Shiver==> Acc(47) Acc(48) Rechg(48) Slow(50)
49) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(49) EndRdx(50)


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See I'm stuck on the whole patron side of it, I know I'm going Ghost Widdow but I dont know how much patron stuff I actually want. All I knoe is I want 3 slots from 45-50 for AA to get its confusion durations


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They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
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Looking good, if a bit endurance intensive. But that can always be adjusted by slotting if it becomes a problem. The patron armors are surprisingly good but I think I'd rather keep Shiver than Chilling Embrace for PvP purposes.

When I hit 50, I think I'll make a full PvP build and ditch Glacier, Jack Frost and the Mu pet in favor of Chilling Embrace and Medicine pool. Jack seems almost a non factor in zone and team PvP because of his stupid tendency to stay at range shooting the ineffective ice bolt.


 

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Looking good, if a bit endurance intensive. But that can always be adjusted by slotting if it becomes a problem. The patron armors are surprisingly good but I think I'd rather keep Shiver than Chilling Embrace for PvP purposes.

When I hit 50, I think I'll make a full PvP build and ditch Glacier, Jack Frost and the Mu pet in favor of Chilling Embrace and Medicine pool. Jack seems almost a non factor in zone and team PvP because of his stupid tendency to stay at range shooting the ineffective ice bolt.

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I probably will ditch jack frost at 50 too but CE is staying in as is an autohit stacked with the autohit from AA, should be really annoying


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I remember when I got confused how many complaints I got from running both CE and AA in PvE, I assume it would annoy as much in PvP


"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"

 

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Good point about auto hit. With a build like that you could be one of the best toggle droppers left in the game. Still, I really like Shiver for pvp too.. CE has such a small radius.