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I don't see there's any reason we should have to choose.. we're getting both after all. I'm looking forward to Power Pools for my main character, but also the Epic AT to explore all the new content.

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So .. let me see if I've got this straight, the OP has already made a call on the value of an Issue that hasn't even hit the Test Server yet?

I'm wondering why the OP is even here .. why hasn't he released a better MMO than CoH and made big bux .. or if he has precog powers that accurate why isn't he making a bazillion dollars day trading?

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Don't think think people would get suspicious?

Atleast here the OP can hide behind the idiot title.

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He's more cunning than any of us could possibly have thought!

Here's an example: CoV brings new zones which you can only visit if you have CoV. If you only have CoV you cannot visit zones in CoH. Both games will likely have PvP areas available to both games. If you want to play in Paragon City as well as the CoV city you buy both of them.
However, it is perfectly possible for you to just play CoV, still fighting other heroes but without experiencing any of the CoH missions/contacts/zones.

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I really dont think that double charge will happen. If it does everyone will leave the game. No ones gonna pay that much for a monthly game. I think 15 dollars is to much away, so Im sure not gonna pay 30 dollars a month. For 15 dollars a month we should be gettin alot more content in our updates than we are.

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However, it will -not- be $15 a month for COH and another $15 for COV if you're playing both.


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You missed that huh?

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Let's just hope I3 is tested a LOT more than I2 was before official release.

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Issue 3 is in internal test already. QA reports suggest that it is already better than sucktastic. Your mileage may vary.

-jg

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Oh come on... this guy is on a roll!

Why wasn't Gaffer running for the CoH Presidential Elections? Third party?

Is it too late to change my vote?

My [Censored] is huge. Seriously.

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You are forgetting skills which are going to be a great addition to your characters.

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Those aren't in Issue 3.

Hands up everyone who knows EVERYTHING that will be in Issue 3. What's that? Nobody?! Gosh!
You can put your hand down Statesman, nobody likes a clever richard.

My point's pretty obvious... I hope.

We don't know everything that will be in Issue 3. BE PATIENT!

Nobody knew about the badge system prior to Issue 2 and it turned out to be hugely popular. Please just wait before whining about something you know very little about.

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To try to lay this thread to rest (again), here's what can be currently said.

1. CoH is not required to play CoV. You can buy CoH and play it, buy CoV and play it, or have both.

2. Pricing is something NCSoft will announce. They have not made any announcement yet. Please rest assured, they are very aware of your opinions and concerns.

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This means that it will be 15 for CoH and 15 for CoV. Not a problem because WoW will be out by that point.

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God, just leave already, everyone knows you hate CoH now.

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Oh my GOD people. There is such a thing as a Dev Digest. Go look it up. Hell....go back one page. Lord Recluse just said that it would be 15 dollars for CoH and CoV combined ~or~ CoH and CoV seperate. Stop this lame rumor! Use your eyes. READ!

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Errr... maybe you should follow your own advice?

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On a scale of 1 to 5, I give this thread:

Four Tinfoil Hats

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It's harsh but fair.


....almost too fair!

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I really don't think this will happen...can't find the damn posts anymore but they've stated many times that if you are already paying your $15/mon for CoH you won't have to for CoV. However, CoV will also be a stand-alone game that you can play W/O owning CoH. You will have to pay $15/mon for CoV if this is the case.

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Yup, I've read this before as well.
The original post sounds too much like a rumour to me...

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I call Vyvyanne's record into question. Vyvyanne doesn't have the strong development experience that Positron has, and has only worked this city from the QA side of things.

We need a VP who will work to build this city stronger, not just put patches on the holes in the infrastructure!

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For president, maybe not, but think about what you just said. A QA background is perfect for VP. Geko can make the policies, and Vyvyanne can check them. Statesman/Positron may come up with good ideas, but can they work out the bugs?

Geko/Vyvyanne '04!


Gerdef

P.S. On a serious note, please, please do go out and vote.

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I wish I could, but due to a period of a mere few months the Constitution has deemed me an imbecile without the mental capacity or maturity to have an informed opinion, so unfortunately I will not be voting today.

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Yeah, and your crappy constitution seems to have some huge problem with people who don't live in America voting as well. Yeeeesh, so much for the land of freedom... (I'm joking by the way, no offence intended here )

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Lord Recluse / CuppaJo '04

The REAL Axis of Evil

Muhahahahahahahahaha!

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I don't mean to get partisan, but I am going with Lord Recluse & CuppaJo today. Their vision of the future just fits better with my ideas.

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Well if you want to waste your vote, sure.

What about an emote for using one of those hilarious, cartoony dynamite plungers? Y'know, the big red ones...
I need something to trigger my doomsday device.

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I joined a TF today, unaware that the members of the TF were heavily into role playing. I'm fairly decent at Role Playing, and it didn't look as if another Task Force would be starting anytime soon, so I played along with them.
Unfortunately, this led to several problems, and to best illustrate this, I'll tell you how each other player designed their "Role Playing" in a manner that was... a bit extreme:

1) The Blaster of the group (Assault Rifle/Devices). Basically, this guy designed his character to be a bad-[censored]. Unfortunatley, he was SO good at this that he frequently cussed and insulted other players on the team for quite some time after even the smallest mistake.
"What the (censored) was that? (Defender Name), would it kill you to (censored) HEAL the rest of the group?! You lazy (censored)!

2) The Defender (Empathy/Psychic Blast). She apparently played the role of an "overly-permiscuous" woman... at least, I HOPE it was a "she"... it might have really been a "he"...
"Hey, stud muffin! You don't have to worry about getting hurt 'caus wherever you get hit I'll make sure to kiss it and make it better!"

3) The Scrapper (Dark/Dark). Basically a take on the "Goth" theme (which I guess is why he chose Dark/Dark).... It just got a little depressing...
"Why the hell do you care if you die, man? Life is pointless, saving people is pointless, this game is pointless, etc etc..."

4) And lastly, the Tanker (Invulnerability/Battle Ax). Basically, his character was... crazy.
"BRING THEM ON, MOTHER (censored)!!!! WHY THE (censored) ARE YOU (censored) STOPPING?!?! LET'S KILL THESE MOTHER (censored)!!!"

So, yeah, it was odd...

The point is, can Role Playing go too far? Or maybe it's good to enjoy such "colorful" company...

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Sounds like a walking group of clichés to me.
Original RP I can enjoy, the clichéd, over-used type just annoys me.

Missster Anderson... (Nerd alert)

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Something a bit odd just happened to me. I was doing a DE mini arc totally unrelated to the 5th Column when two(and only two) of them ambushed me as I exited a mission in Skyway. I wonder if it's connected to the news article.

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I heard somebody else saying someting similar, being ambushed by 5th despite not doing an 5th missions...

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Nothing has happned... Statesman has thrown us a semi-bone...

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I have a filthy mind.

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Hmm, I too favor the big bad Axis-Amerika Nazis coming in, perhaps even with Nazi-flavored Surviving 8?
Maybe even a world where the super-soldier serum is used with abandon, and giant 20 foot tall Nightwolves roam the forests. Even better, an Axis-Amerika where the Rikti and Nazis become allied in order to get a hold of this world? In any event, this could become very interesting very quickly.

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Just FYI, the Warwolves aren't produced using Super-Serum, they're... something else.
(Being mysterious is cool).

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I would love to see a Neo-Nazi Skinhead street gang at lower levels, story wise it could be looked at as a recruiting base for the 5th.

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The 5th recruit directly, it's the first mission you ever do as a Natural hero.

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What is this SSOCS?

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The Super Secret Out of Combat System.

I made the acronym up if anyone cares/believes me...