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And fire, does absolutely nothing to stop a purple boss from running up and wrecking me. No controls in fire whatsoever without some IO procs. The damage is good but doesn't seem to keep me from getting faceplanted.



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That's why you combine Fire/ with /Ice--that gives you all the control you need.

Finding ranged damage in a secondary to overcome Psi's relatively weak damage is a lot more difficult.

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I have played out all the sets now at least to around 30 (so i don't know much about the nukes) and I am just not seeing "weak damage" from psy. At least not for single target.

Against robots and carnies? Ok, maybe then, but with AE and tons of heroside content, it is pretty easy to avoid the psy-resistant enemies.

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You can only enhance Acro for two extra points - so you go from 9 to 11. Not really worth the extra slotting.

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Hmm. Good to know.

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Theres not much MORE KB protection I can get out of this build, alex. Every travel power has BOTZ, every res and def power has KB protection, the only thing I can do is slot Power Push differently.

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Could you put more KB resists in Acro? It can take two more to buff it up even more can't it?

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We don't really know whats going on, but a lot of important accounts in The Renegades have been perma-banned. Maybe the devs decided they were sick of bitter hardcore pvpers pointing out their mistakes. I don't know, we're hoping the issue will be investigated and there will be some sort of resolution.

This is a pretty big hit against our group, and with the state of pvp right now, a big hit against The Renegades is a big hit against the community as a whole.

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LOL I am sure that all those accounts that got perma-banned were perfectly innocent bystanders.

How can you suffer such awful persecution?!?

You guys should blog about it or something

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Well for one thing once you get your recharge slotted its not that great. Fire blast has no trouble doing flares,fire blast, blaze as a seemless chain. If you have a ranged attack in your secondary you don't even need the high recharge.

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My chain is fine as long as I use the 4 ST attacks. That's when I have some recharge slotting of course.

And fire, does absolutely nothing to stop a purple boss from running up and wrecking me. No controls in fire whatsoever without some IO procs. The damage is good but doesn't seem to keep me from getting faceplanted.

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There are no easily stackable controls within the set. I suppose you could try stacking scramble thoughts and psychic wail.

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I don't really feel the need for all the time spent trying to stack controls when my 4 attacks are from long range and one sends the boss flying backwards onto his back most times.

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ICE vs psy you get 2 holds, and 3 AOEs all ranged plus ICE has the most damaging AOE in the game. All the AOEs are in ice are better than psy

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Yeah, psy is bad at aoe...

This thread is silly to me because the one thing that drives me crazy in MMOs is the constant "MY HEALER DOESNT DO ENOUGH DPS->WELL MY DPS DOESN'T TANK WELL ENOUGH->WELL MY TANK DOESN'T HAVE GOOD ENOUGH HEALS.

You want damage? Play a rad/sonic.

That's still not enough damage for you? Then why the hell are you playing a defender?

Defenders contribute far too much to a team to act like their damage is such a crucial element of the class.

I really don't get how people keep calling psy blast bad in pve.

It is absolutely bad at AoE, I totally see that.

But for single target, it has been doing amazing for me so far. Can absolutely wreck a purple Boss super fast by spamming the 4 main ST attacks.

People don't usually seem to call ice bad, and it is single target just like psy.

And I don't care if ice/ gets a couple of holds, I find the knockback from TK blast much more useful for killing bosses and lt's than any hold.

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Since changing you colors will be -20% damage how many of the non-carebears will actually do this?

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I think you were going for a troll post to see how many people believed this, but you went too far with the number and now people are just going to post here to make fun of you.

Good job...

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I fully agree that its very annoying to have to turn RTTC back on but what I am saying is RTTC is a melee power and no one but fightclucbbers or melee ATs stay in melee for it to matter

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RttC is not a melee power; it is the main form of damage mitigation for WP. Without it, you have a smattering of resists and defenses, and some +HP. Yes, it is much better when used in melee range, but it's a respectable power against ranged attacks, provided it doesn't drop, that is.

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What power are yo utalking about cause as Mac said and as I know RTTC does nto do what you described.

It is a melee aura that grants regen for mobs in range as well as provides a -tohit to the enemy while in range. Without a mob in melee range, its does nothing

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It is always funny to me when people argue for powers in PVP when they don't even know how the power works.

RttC giving protection from ranged attacks? lolwut?

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Pffft, the rez is better the RttC in PvP. At least you get some from the rez, RttC hands out a wonderful -3.5% tohit...LOOK OUT!

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lol @ rezzes in PvP.

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Rez= lol would u like another chance for pvp IO drop from me real quick?

Dark is nice for the self heal when you pair it with debuffing sets that don't have one.

But why the hell would you pair Dark with /Therm?

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I make sure some california Jailmates take care of you! They love out of towners. Real Life PvP the shizzle! Big Boy... I was big boy since i was in 5th grade. Not big in fact of being fat.... but I earn a pretty good RL pvp rep... 400 rep. I given got that badges on my knuckles.

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LOL

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While the title is obviously going to spark many one-liner replies, please hear me out.

Defenders currently have a secondary devoted completely to damaging yet it is my opinion that they fall behind both Tankers and Controllers in terms of damage. (Unless you compare the best damage of defenders, say Dark/Sonic with the worst of controllers, say Earth/Empathy)

Personally I view this as a gross imbalance of the game, Defenders should have much more power and ability in soloing. They are still heroes afterall! They should not be treated like the clerics or priests of the game by people who know no better - if anything that title is more fitting of controllers anyway.

It is just a big shame that Defenders start with a good ability to solo and it just goes down hill rapidly from there. By the time they hit level 20 and their real numbers, their abilities to solo have diminished by a large amount.

I realise Defender damage has been buffed a long time ago once before, and their attacks reduced in cost as well but I think it is time for another look. Reading the changes to Dominators, I would not be asking for a huge overhaul like that as I realise the amount of Dev time needed. However, it is also a good time to perhaps ask a similar look is given to Defenders as well?

Which leaves me thinking about a simple way of improving Defenders, apart from an across the board increase in damage, a simple way in which Defenders could be improved is through their inherent ability - an abiity which many will agree is among the worst of any archtype. Now, that alone is not a good reason for it to be changed however consider the following:

- The ability has zero use outside of a team, an area which defenders could actually use more help with.

- For many powersets, the ability is counter productive. As a forcefield defender who's job it is to *prevent* damage, ideally hardly anyone will get hurt and the ability wont be in effect.

- The ability largely depends on the abilities of your team mates and their sets. If you team with a good tank or controller, again it will have minimal use.

When you compare Viligance to something like Containment, an inherent which gives controllers very respectful damage early on if they slot accordingly (My Mind Controller breezed through the early levels) and becomes even more poweruful with double damage EPP AoE's.

Overall I think Defenders need a boost in damage because they are lacking and when they have a secondary devoted to damage, the benefits seem lost when Controllers, who have no damage powerset and are blessed with Controls, Buffs/Debuffs and pets and more damage.

My suggestion to the devs that a quick and simple way of making a change to Defenders would be to target their inherent, Viligance, which is currently underpeforming. If changed to something that would really boost Defenders and make them feel more Heroic, its ramificaitons would be across all powersets and be a universal buff of goodness.

Thanks for reading

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Step 1: Make a rad/sonic defender
Step 2: shut your pie hole
Step 3: Profit

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Given that, doesn't that mean that SR is pretty well garbage?

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Given that Werner just showed you a vid of his SR taking on an AV with 15 other mobs?

Um, NO.

Aren't there like ghost pirates as a red-side NPC?

Seems to me like you guys could use AE to make all kinds of pirate-themed TF's to do.

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Go measure your PvP E-peen against someone who gives a flying rat's [censored] about how small it really is.

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My vote:

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LOL we enjoy the game very much... We do everything PVP, Teams, TF/SF, Events, Kickball, PL's, Plant Crops, Kill monster, and badge Hunt. I don't force my members to be in Sg mode. They enter sg mode cause they want to. Like Bud could tell you some of those blind invited toon turn out be some good players. Yes I would enjoy climbing the ladders and fun with my Sg mates. Look out for ELITE LEGENDS GOLD a fast growing Villain Group, thats run by SmackDat!

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What kind of things do you guys need for red-side Hamidon?


I would be willing to play villain side by maybe making something to help.

I think there should be some definite villain team nights because I can hardly ever find teams villain side.

I was on the right track about the Shivans?

Hmm, I wonder what 8 Shivans could do...

I still don't think he could be taken down that fast without some kind of bug though, if you were doing it "solo".

Maybe my Shivans are just lazy

It has been my experience so far that this MMO doesn't really require optimized toons.

It really is more like something where you can just make your character in whatever flavor you want and it will probably work in some fashion and you can have fun with it.

Even the "raids" in this game or the high end task forces don't really seem to require tons of expensive super efficient builds.

I have been on some ITF's now that were successful even with some very "less-than-optimized" players and they were still fun.

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Not to derail the thread or anything, but...

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i have only done 1 TF successfully without him

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...is not a glowing recommendation for an SG leader. /facepalm

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lol.

At first I thought Felicia was just outspoken about defending her SG in the other thread, now I am leaning more towards condescending and outlandish.

No, I can't solo Romulus 4 times in under 1 minute. Nobody can. It's impossible to SOLO romulus 4 times in under 1 minute, no single character in this game has both the damage output and the resistance. If there is, seriously, PM me so the dev's don't know our haxXxor.
It would at least be nice if you mentioned your teammates(who may or may not have been your SG mates on that specific team to watch you solo Romulus in record time).

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I was thinking well hey, maybe with a Shivan and Warburg nuke but that is still like 15 seconds each kill, less actually because it takes him a few seconds to rez up each time.

So what do you use, Felicia, to kill him in like 10 seconds?

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Veering away again from this thread...I HATE CO and think is the most boring, excruciating game that was quite obviously dumped for another project prior to even making it halfway through alpha...I say to CO: See y'all when you get done boring yourself to death and come on back for some much less hum-drum fun =]

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QFT. I have to add that the character creation is nice and has some interesting features and every cool name that is taken in City is currently available in CO. HOWEVER, the graphics are ... not very good. They look a lot like my "graphics minimum" on the high-powered machine I used. And some of the attack chain quirks, are not so nice either. Unless it gets lots better, there is no interest here in a switch, even a temp one.

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You're right about everything there...

Except the character creation, it is confusing and impossible to use, may help that the graphics match that of pong. CO is full of fail, seems liked they've taken what the players here at CoX would like to see and put it into a game with a 20 dollar budget.

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I disliked the character creation too, glad someone else agrees on that note...and for sure, it's like take everything you didn't like about WoW, mix it with what you had wanted to see in CoX and then dump it out there cause Star Trek might make more money...

I thought the idiot left having learned lessons but...no...really, no...

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You took the words out of my mouth.

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I tried out CO after getting my invite.

The problems, in order of finding them:

Character looks all blurry in the creator tool...
Only one face possible. No way to change the mouth shape, eye size/shape, nose, nothing. All you can do is overlay the face with wrinkles...?
Blocky character. No body sliders that have any real impact.
Picked my powersets...was told something weird about the powers I got. Didn't really know what the game was talking about.
Entered the game. No voice acting. Everything looked sepia and drab. Unless you turn off bloom, things look weird and foggy.
Realised the only way to make the game look kinda nice was to turn on outlines and all the other cartoon stuff. This turned the game into a sort of Marvel Ultimate Alliance, but with far more complex and opaque controls. Still couldn't fathom the levelling system.
The GUI seemed to be lifted directly from Age of Conan...
Your character spends most of the time being tiny on screen, cos the only way to see your enviroment properly is to zoom waaay out.
Played though some missions...I think? I got some tasks from NPCs but had no idea how they linked together or what my overall aim was.

I gave up after a couple of goes. My character looked ugly and the power animations were just lame.

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Which is why you should stay here, with us.

Come on, there has to be some other powerset that you would like to play...

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[and yes, thank you for the explanations. I'm not, however, swayed by the argument.]

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Well, some people still believe the Earth is flat. To each their own.

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It's not? My belief system has been shaken to the core.

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<-surprise face

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Ok. Tim gets good grades because ... maybe he's smart?

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He said that Tim got good grades by doing nothing other than just showing up to class, but nice try.
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And Iltat, I really do understand what you are saying about underpowered, but it surprises me you made an argument when you earlier said you're not even playing that powerset. (Maybe it's his inner sense of fair play. Well, except for gaming the market that is. )

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Or maybe an inner sense of logic.

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[and yes, thank you for the explanations. I'm not, however, swayed by the argument.]

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Well, some people still believe the Earth is flat. To each their own.