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No, but I'm constantly answering questions of this nature in game.

Ok, now you are just being contrary on purpose. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a text update showing what is being rolled for. It would literally take the developers less than 20 minutes to change the descriptions.

Reading failure, I asked for a ticket increase (a bit over double the amount of a random roll) for the ability pick which salvage you get.

And, as pointed out in this thread, people are not rolling for salvage. They are using AE Tickets for bronze, silver, and gold recipe rolls.

Unless it is in the 20-25 or 35-39 range. Note that the descriptions for the "grab bags" don't tell you what are the possible rolls.

I think that you are over-thinking this. Why would I waste my valuable playtime setting up this storage scheme? Besides, I play on many servers.

Yeah, and that is where idea of using alts for storage fails. Sure there might be a few that will jump through those hoops, but it is far more tedious than the original suggestion.

I agree with this entirely, especially the highlighted sentence.

Not really. All it does is gives more options to those that do run AE missions.

Base requests thread. The developers ARE aware of it and have been since Issue 12. There are updates with Issue 13 in that thread too. Nearly every item requested above has already been covered in that thread.

Like, say, buying salvage with AE Tickets? What the original suggestion does is provide a stable value to the common salvage. It doesn't add a new way to get salvage (as people have pointed out and agree that common rolls for AE tickets exist), unless the developers decide to keep the random rolls. The original suggestion just standardizes the price of common salvage.

Additional suggestions were to keep the random rolls in addition to the fixed price suggestion, and to add options to also have random rolls of uncommon and rare salvage.

Sure the market isn't compulsory and the devs would like us to use it. However they have given the player base several "outs" already in terms of both PVP and the market.

Again, you are bringing the market into the equation. Again, the original suggestion has to do with AE Tickets, not the market. On the flip side, a player could use the suggestion in this thread to buy a luck charm to sell on the market if they choose to do so. At that point it would be a win for the market as activity occurs.

Given that the current situation is 8 times N rolls where N is an unknown number, it could be had for as little as 8 tickets. Over time that number is higher though. Only the developers have the stats of what is rolled vs what gets sold on the market.

The problem stems from a phrase that often gets thrown at people that suggest changes like this: Random means random.

Unless I know what I'm getting as a recipe drop, how am I supposed to store it ahead of time?

Your detailed reasons, and please correct me if I'm wrong, go like this:

• Random drops are always more desirable than chosen purchases.
• Even though the drops might never make it to the market due to being "minor value", players should continue to get them even if it is a frustrating waste of time to some because the market might get the unused pieces.

The first point is entirely subjective. We disagree.

The whole point of the original suggestion is to eliminate the frustration of the second. The second point represents a needless grind to those that do not use the market and brings me back to being forced to Market PVP if I want a specific piece of common salvage.

If the market doesn't see the results of the random rolls, then the market hasn't lost anything. At that point, why oppose the suggestion? Either those rolls are making their way to the market, being used crafting, or being sold to the vendors. We disagree as to what degree that the commons are getting to the market. I personally don't think a lot of the more usable common salvage is getting to the market. While the less used just sits there or gets sold to the stores.

Cat, I directed my comments to you because you seem to be the most reasonable market supporter in this thread in hopes that you could perhaps convince the others to do the same. It isn't a co-ordinated effort? Could have fooled me. The same people that oppose any change to the markets bringing up the same arguments they always do.

That post was made in hopes that people would start discussing the suggestion rather than make attacks. I am also trying to understand why people are raising such a fuss over what they consider "not valuable".

I would get behind these too. Make the grab bags a bit cheaper than the "choose your own" option and it seems to be viable.

While "meh" on the local/team/guild announcements, the rest I could get behind without hesitation.

Then I ask again: What is all the animosity for the suggestion? If it isn't "major inf" we are talking about, then what does it matter to you or the others on the market if the suggestion gets accepted by the developers. Collectively the market will do what it always does: move onto something else that has better profits.

I've been getting a ton of negative rep (-200) with comments that amount to "ahahaha", collectively the market supporters in this thread have shown an abysmal reaction (you'd think I asked for the market to be eliminated given the reactions), and I've basically been told to use the system that I've repeatedly said I didn't want any part of.

Tell me is that the reaction you want to foster, Cat? Or do the market supporters just want to bully a suggestion because it deals with "minor inf"?

It was a reliable means of storage before Issue 13. Now the salvage racks are so limited as to be useless. This was done for the market, despite base builder's protests. It was promised to be reviewed, but it has been over a year since any developer comment about that change.

You think that with all the protests from the market supporters that I want to kill the market. All over something you've said that the more experienced market people wouldn't be affected by. Crocodile tears much?

Which might be the 10th of something you didn't need in the first place.

So, in a Massively Multi-player Online game, you are telling me to solo? Or to have a "group" of one? Do you know how stupid that sounds?

I'd have that one already, sadly enough.

Apparently you and Catwhoorg don't agree.

And sometimes the only reliable means of getting a specific salvage is either the market or buying from the AE. Or hope to get it before the reason for looking for that piece becomes moot.

As to storing salvage in the bases, that space is generally reserved for halloween, candy canes because Issue 13 reduced the salvage rack capacity from 2,500 pieces of salvage to 30. Groups are limited to 18 storage items for 150 characters. So that isn't a reliable means of storage.

Well the brainstorm recipes are on all the invention tables (feel free to take a look at the universities, abandoned labs, RWZ base, or at any base that has an invention table). There are all the base salvage to brainstorm recipes on the invention tables too to give you an idea about converting to brainstorms as well.

Well I'm not sure they'd allow brainstorms to buy recipes, but I'd be for being able to convert TOs, DOs, and SOs to brainstorms. Titan Shards, Hydra Origin, Hamidon Origins, and Synthetic Hamidon Origins would likely have to be excluded.

Well you aren't gaining a supporter by the market supporter's attitude in this thread. And thanks for proving my point.

/sarcasm And market people wonder why they are hated.

Seriously, if the market supporters in this thread were at all honest with themselves then half this thread wouldn't exist. Instead, the market supporters feel the need to attack anything that might touch their "precious". The point that some marketers made in this very thread that people use AE Tickets for random recipe rolls instead of salvage (thus causing an upward spike on salvage use on the market) is completely ignored.

So what is it? People use AE Tickets for random recipe rolls or random common rolls? If there is a lack of salvage because people are choosing recipes, then those tickets are not being converted to salvage. Can you tell me that all, or even most, of the random common rolls are going to the market? No, you can't, neither can I.

Not all players have solo SGs that they can store their salvage freely in. It might be the case that those who frequent the market can do that, but it isn't always the case.

So it comes down to let me ignore the market by being able to choose what my AE tickets buys. I can do so with uncommon and rare salvage, I should be able to do so with commons too. Feel free continue to use the market, I'm not even trying to stop you. Like I said the market can go on its merry way.

And it depends on the salvage in question. Some salvage (the sought after) is too expensive. While others are considered "worthless" by sellers and deleted. Both points are valid. You are being deliberate in your attempts to derail this suggestion because as a marketer you know that not all salvage is being bought or sold equally.

Like Lemur said, there is the problem in that not all commons are used equally across the recipes. Those that are heavily used get traded and marked up. Those that are not used heavily are considered a waste of time by sellers. Fortunes are considered more valuable than rubies for instance both are common, but fortunes are used more.

Again, both points are valid for the market. However, as I keep saying, those that use the market can continue to play market pvp. I want out of it for common salvage that I need so I looked at the alternatives: hope I get lucky doing missions or use the AE. Given that players can choose which uncommon or rares with AE Tickets, it stands to reason that players should be able to choose commons with AE Tickets as well.

Not all salvage is the same. While 1-2 pieces of salvage in a tier might be sought after, the others could sit for weeks if left alone. Given that sellers want fast turnover, they pull that salvage to sell to stores, don't put it on the market in the first place, or simply delete it.

Yeah, as bad as forcing people that don't want to play the market to do so. Basically my suggestion lets players choose to ignore the market, but use IOs (something that Reward Merits and AE Tickets almost do perfectly).

That is akin to making players go into PVP zones so that PVPers have targets. Guess what? That didn't work. Even forcing players to use random rolls is a waste as comments above show that even those against this idea delete salvage that "isn't worth it".

I've been told in the past that Inf and Item transfers via the Email system would be the death for the markets due to items not being put up onto the market. Well it is happening.

So while the suggestion is bad for the market, I don't care. Heck I don't do a lot of AE missions either unless I need specific salvage. When I need specific salvage, I've got two choices: AE Tickets or the Market. Given those choices, I do not want to choose the market.

That's what really gets me about the opposition above. It isn't cutting into their profits as the tickets for salvage currently isn't being used as much, so why do they care at all?

Like Master-Blade said, there is no command to set a waypoint.

The default targeting commands are:

• TAB: /target_enemy_next
  • Cycles through enemies on screen.
• CTRL+TAB: /target_enemy_near
  • Always targets the nearest enemy.
• SHIFT+TAB: /target_enemy_prev
  • Cycles through enemies on screen in reverse order.

Your best bets would be /targetenemynear and /targetenemyfar commands.

Why not reverse that? Any common salvage yields 1 brainstorm, any uncommon salvage yields 5 brainstorms, and any rare salvage yields 20 brainstorms.

This would have several advantages:

• Allows the direct conversion to equal rarity.
• Allows the player to choose arcane or tech with a premium price.
• Allows up-converting to higher rarity with patience.
• Uses an existing system - Brainstorms.
• No need for failure checks.
• No need for a new, complicated system.

Welcome to the game! I hope you and your daughter enjoy your time here.

A (hopefully unneeded) word of caution: Treat the game like any other Internet community and you'll be thankful for it.

I think it is because when I suggest things like this, the automatic response I get generally amounts to "Learn to use the market". Not discussion about the suggestion, but to use something I've told people that I don't want to be tied to. The fact that I privately guessed who would be responding and how is depressing.

It is getting highly annoying.