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I didn't hear about the freespecs until Saturday night, but was too busy over the weekend to use them.

Got up for morning hoops and did a respec on a brute over breakfast (4:30 a.m.ish est), then left. Got back at 8:10 a.m. est and the servers were apparently down for I15 (guessing they went down an hour early?).

Trust me, love that respecs are free some issues and there was a warning - just wish we were told Monday or Tuesday was the day (I guessed Tuesday... I fail!).

Anyone else that got caught expecting more time Monday morning or that they had until Tuesday?

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I didn't use any, but not because I ran out of time. I was pretty happy with all my builds to date. I have a couple of Doms who need a respec NOW because of the dominator changes to fix some problematic slotting, but other than that, I doubt I'll be using a freespec anytime too soon.

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Socket end redux. In your attacks. Most brutes can work it out, c'mon.

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Thanks, but I already had end redux in the attacks.

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This is not helpful without saying what level your talking about, what power sets, etc. For instance pre level 20 ya your probably hurting on end a bit. But post stamina what are you running toggles like leadership pools? Cause i got about 8 dominators at different level ranges, none of them are suffering the problems your talking about, so without further information, ya i will assume its you and not the archtype. Cause with a full bar of end, i dont know of any combo of attacks from any of the dominator sets that would extingush an entire bar of end.

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I never had this problem before today, so I am equally as flabbergasted.

The only one of my four doms I tried before work today is a level 38 Mind/Ice dom. Now I know /ice is an END heavy set, but before I-15 I would be fine without needing any blues most of the time, maybe one in a protracted boss fight and then only if I was popping hasten and power boost.

But today? Crey Power Tank in Brickstown took three large blues to bring down AFTER domination popped. That never happened before.

Now granted, I haven't been able to slot BIB for end yet as it still has just the one slot and I put an Acc SO in there for now, so that's sucking alot of wind when I use it (and it always has... I'm very close to 39 now) but it seemed like all my attacks were sucking wind today and I was eating blues like candy.

My only toggles are Chilling Embrace and Hover. Pre I-15, I have been running both all the time without issue. No way could I run Chilling Embrace anymore nor hasten if I planned to attack at all. I just can't afford the /end anymore. I'm going to need to seriously overhaul my slotting.

So in that vein, I hope I don't need to dial my CL down below 4 to deal with end issues in the interim until I can get all the IOs I'll need. I hate playing on anything but CL 4 or 5.


Also, there seems to be some confusion here. I wasn't exactly fishing for advice. I was more responding to the post where someone said "You obviously have not been reading what most of us were complaining about... it was the higher endurance and slower recharge in most of our secondaries that we feel nerfed us." with my own complaint about end costs. I already KNOW what I need to do to fix it (get +end and +recovery via IO sets and drop some extra end redux enhancements into the powers and pack alot of Blues). I was just jumping on the complaining train. That character is sucking wind now and never did before. If you believe it or not doesn't matter, that was the experience I had logging in today and somehow in the previous 38 levels I've gone through with that character, I never had this problem until today. But obviously it's not the changes to the powerset powerset, it's ME

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Interestingly, I'm a big fan of the correct use of words.

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Even more interestingly, the irony of this statement is about to become abundantly clear.

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Smurch is one of the few people I've seen use the word "pedorasty" instead of the trendy, catch-all, oft-incorrectly used term "pedophilia."

Unfortunately, he used it in entirely the wrong context.

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First off, the word is "pederasty' not "pedorasty". The correct use of words does in fact include spelling them correctly.

Actually I didn't use the term "pederasty". I used the term "pseudo-pederasty". Since we're playing the Mister Pedantic Dictionary game, the term "pseudo" means "approaching, almost, but not exactly" or "pretended" or "unreal".

In other words, pseudo-pederasty is pretended sex with a minor. Which means I used the term "pseudo-pederasty" exactly in the correct context, thank you very much.

Next time you want to lecture someone on the proper use of a word you might want to read more carefully and check your spelling. It's very hard to play the know-it-all when you manage to get it wrong on both counts.

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You obviously have not been reading what most of us were complaining about... it was the higher endurance and slower recharge in most of our secondaries that we feel nerfed us. The damage is liveable.

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Just jumped on to try one of my doms out. My impression so far is:

*wheeze* *GASP* *wheeze* can't... breathe... *gasp*...

Out of END entirely ESPECIALLY in domination mode. It now seems that entering Domination is a great way to make sure you drain your end bar as fast as possible.

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That must be playstyle then, because Domination doesn't increase end costs. >.>

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Probably just because I'm hitting Domination in the biggest fights against the toughest foes and Domination isn't helping to down them faster anymore. However, end costs are higher, so the toughest foes are more costly end-wise to kill since recovery can't keep up anymore.

I also should mention I run on CL 4 all the time, so bosses are red/purple with Lieuies being Orange/Red. I used to be able to manage my end with Domination so I rarely if ever needed blues. Now it seems I'm popping them like candy.

I also think I need to spec out of hasten. Can't afford the overhead anymore apparently. Going to try slotting for +end with IO sets first though. The toggles seem pretty out of the question for the time being however.

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You obviously have not been reading what most of us were complaining about... it was the higher endurance and slower recharge in most of our secondaries that we feel nerfed us. The damage is liveable.

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Just jumped on to try one of my doms out. My impression so far is:

*wheeze* *GASP* *wheeze* can't... breathe... *gasp*...

Out of END entirely ESPECIALLY in domination mode. It now seems that entering Domination is a great way to make sure you drain your end bar as fast as possible.

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That must be playstyle then, because Domination doesn't increase end costs. >.>

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Im betting he is hitting domination when his end bar is already full, instead of extingushing it and then getting a new bar. So by the time his domination is wearing off, he is out of end and having to work on refilling the bar.

Its prob one of those "noob" things ER was speaking about.

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Yes I r stooopd! I r n00b. I've only been here since I6 after all.

Of course I'm not hitting the bar when it's full!

No, it's like this... *engage boss* attack attack attack... end out.... Domination BOOM! attack attack attack... (boss at half) End out. Pop blue. Attack attack attack (boss at 1/4) end out. Pop blue. Attack attack attack (boss at a sliver). End out. Out of blue. Wait and hope boss doesn't come out of hold... attack. Sad Drainy Noise. Boss dies. Rest.

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With respec to actual sex? No. With respect to cybersex? Yes, absolutely. And the law which you seem to be so fond of agrees with me.

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Again you fail to grasp my point.

This isn't about the law. I honestly don't know (nor really care) what the law says about that sort of activity.

It's about if it's ethically appropriate or not. Apparently this is an area we disagree. I feel it's irresponsible and unethical for an adult to engage a young teenager in sexual behavior of any kind, including phone sex or cybersex. You apparently do not.

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Hence the out I left myself, "or people think they aren't there". I haven't spent a lot of time there since coming back to the game, but the complaints about it are the same old stuff. Some things never change, I guess.

Your point about being bored with the RP that goes on there, though, interests me. I wonder, what exactly do people who want a public RP space think that they want to do there? What exactly is supposed to go on? My character going out for a couple drinks or just to hang out at a club is something I can relate to, it's something a real person would do.

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It is, in fact, something I do regularly in real life. I don't generally get to be a supervillain in real life (as much as I try). I don't understand why I'd want to spend time roleplaying perfectly normal every day activities I already do with actual real live people.

I expect RP to revolve around stories of some kind. Meet and greet is fine... if it's used to develop or further plots, make allies and enemies, to recap the development of existing plots and stories, and to further the dramatic development of characters involved. RP about small talk subjects is about one hundred times LESS interesting in a game than it is in real life.

They RP about Nothing in Particular. It's frightfully dull.

People talk about the dark corners. If people were using those dark corners to plot to overthrow the world instead of learning to type one-handed, it'd be a much more interesting place to visit.

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Bars and clubs are natural social gathering points.

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Sure. That's not the problem. It's not the venue that's the issue. It's what they do when they get there. Which is, basically, nothing.

You know what's more interesting than nothing? ANYTHING!

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I am sorry, Smurhc, but that thought doesn't bother me at all. I don't do cybersex, here or anywhere else,

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Nor do I. But thats not the point.

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but not because I'm afraid a teanager might be involved. The best efforts of certain groups to claim otherwise not withstanding, cybersex is not sex.

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It's still wholly inappropriate for an adult to engage in with a minor.

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And just for the record, I feel fairly confident that teangers will have fantasies (and masturbate about them) without the benefit of my (amditedly, inspired) input.

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No doubt. However that is, again, not the point.

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Also, there is no way to be certain that any cybersex you have anywhere on the internet will be with an adult.

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Yes, exactly! THAT is my point.

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The point being, that "taking it outside", as it were - not doing it in a video-game as opposed to some more ostensibly appropriate venue, is a completly inefecual way to protect minors from exposure to horrors of explicit sexual description.

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Yes, that may be true. Still, when you're in a venue that specifically is designed to cater to people of multiple ages, minors included, it means the odds that any particular person you engage in an activity is much more likely to actually be a minor.

If you go to an "adult" chat room where 18+ people only are ostensibly allowed, the odds you are speaking to another adult are exponentially better than if you go to a video game about comic books.

However, there is a point that you still cannot be sure whom you are speaking with and should, therefore, act accordingly.

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Because, you know, its not like they would have figured out what their parts were for if no one told them.

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I guess since 13 year olds will figure it out on their own we should remove all statutory [censored] laws on the books and let adults have sex with young teens, right? Since teens are gonna have sex anyways?

It's not a question of "will teens be having sex/talking about sex/fantasizing". It's a question of whether or not it's appropriate for an adult to engage a teenager in those activities. I think the general consensus in our society is that it is not. Do you disagree?

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You obviously have not been reading what most of us were complaining about... it was the higher endurance and slower recharge in most of our secondaries that we feel nerfed us. The damage is liveable.

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Just jumped on to try one of my doms out. My impression so far is:

*wheeze* *GASP* *wheeze* can't... breathe... *gasp*...

Out of END entirely ESPECIALLY in domination mode. It now seems that entering Domination is a great way to make sure you drain your end bar as fast as possible.

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My husband and I are now logged in.

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TMI

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Either they are on Vacation or Unemployed :-o

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Or work a different shift.

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It's not the same, that is true. Be it gooder or worser. I pick teh latter. lol. (i know my grammer is screwed, it was porpusely done) go ahead and point it out,

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You know what's worse than being ignorant?
Being willfully ignorant.

When I joined the game, we had to walk all over the city to get our levels, uphill! both ways!, and dammit, we *liked* it! Not like these kids today who can level up in just one building in one zone! Kids just want things handed to them rather than put in an honest day's grinding like we did. I don't know what this world is coming to, but I can tell ya this, ole Jack never woulda put up with it, yessireebob.

Now get off my lawn!

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Yeah. . .in CoX if you have the best now, more than likely it will be nerfed by the end of the year, and that toon you scauffed at the other day? Yeah, he is the new god. . .whose laughing now?

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That is true of any MMO... However I don't understand why they are removing Dominate from Dominators. Isn't that the core of the AT?

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As others have said, Domination isn't being removed. The +damage component of it is, in return for mostly higher-than-domination base damage on all attacks across the board. This is generally a Good Thing.

Domination still fills the END bar, increases duration of controls by 50%, increases magnitude of controls by double, and gives +res(Knockback/Knockup, Repel, Disorient, Hold, Sleep, Immobilize, Fear, and Confuse).

It's still alot of bang for the buck.

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Ah, this is why I rarely sway away from my Archetype Forum tours. I go to my home server forum for a hope of some amusing antics or pictures of characters in compromising positions, and all I get is this! Of course there's RP, but it has to come to you. I have a few pointers that should help you out.

There's two guides to this; The first is either make a godly, or just blatant "everything" character. Then comes the tricky part; you have to make your character original with the minimal about of work possible, simply be some sort of demon but say you're not, or be some sort of mutant that's "special". Then it's time for your story- the funnest part. Simply put that you have a VV page in your Bio, then leave your VV page a perpetual WIP, therefore never requiring you to write anything, but people will think you're working on it because you got a VV page for it! Now that you have your established character, you just do whatever you want and say whatever you want, because you can and you're superior(Pro tip: proceed to smirk and wink at everyone if your character is female, or be silent and "badass" if your character is male). You'll eventually be loved for one reason or another, but they'll grow tired of you, and you'll have to: Join a clique and shun everyone else, leave RP and become a PvPer, or go to CO in a couple months to start all the way over.

The alternate guide is just make a character for fun with a cool concept that you enjoy playing and find other people who like the same things, but that could take time, and you want results now!

(Note: I'm not saying everyone's character is like either example. Still, I can feel flames from here )

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No, you're definitely on to something here.

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The real problem for me is I can not find anyone to really rp with....that and the few I do tend to find tend to be flat.

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That is exactly the current problem with Virtue right now. It needs a gathering area for the RP community with characters who are not affiliated with any groups. Sadly, the only place is Pocket D and we already stated what's wrong with it.

I tried to create another RP spot. So did many others. But it never got enough motivation from the RP community. So I just gave up. *shrug*

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The problem with Pocket D isn't that cyberers are there. The problem is that RPers aren't there, or at least that people think they aren't there. When the D first got patched in I remember pretty clearly posting here that the only way the D is going to be an awesome place to RP is if RPers go there, RP there, and don't just let the cyber crowd have it. And for a while, RPers did go there and it was awesome. Then they didn't, and it wasn't. You can say whatever you want about how horribly offensive it is to know that someone in the same zone as you is swapping the dirty talk, but when it comes down to it if RPers were there, it would be the place to be, no matter what the cyber crowd does or says. The RP community, such as it is, just doesn't want a central RP spot badly enough to make it happen. And honestly, I'm not sure what's so wrong with that.

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Well RPers do in fact go to P-D. They generally hang out blueside upstairs. However, the public RP there is generally rather flat with people RPing ordering their favorite drink, RPing flirting with others, and RPing making small talk. In short RPing all the same stuff you can find in absolutely any bar in the world IRL which always seemed kinda pointless to me.

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I was talking to a friend about this. And it seems the only way to solve this...IC/OOC mix-up is to make an OFFICIAL RP server...and it kindda made sense.

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Wont happen. Servers are at low as it is so adding a new server would be currently counter productive. The best that could happen is Posi holds an event to vote for servers and basically rename the chosen server as a dedicated RP server.

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It also wouldn't actually accomplish anything. I've played on a lot of official RP servers in various games. Some of them sucked, some of them were outstanding. But none of them were all RPers, and most of them weren't even majority RPers. As nice as having an official RP server where everyone RPs may sound, it's not enforcable. And besides that, you still don't solve any of the problems that come from OOC drama between RPers. If anything, you encourage it by implying to drama-prone players that their baggage and craziness is somehow acceptable since this server is "different, it's RP".

Whatever complaints some of us may have from time to time, Virtue has a really good thing going. I'd suggest focusing more on the positive rather than getting too dragged down by the popular complaints about the D and so forth. Just get out there, have fun with your friends, and stay out of the corners.

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This really is a good point. I've been on "official" RP servers in other games and Virtue, for all it's unofficial status, is much much better than just about all of them. Such as it is.

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Whats worse is this is a "T" rated game which means one of them could be 30 years old, and the other one could be 13.

Really people... THINK before you ERP!

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Not to support ERP. But...

"Online Interactions Not Rated by the ESRB."

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Way to miss the point.

This is a "T" rated game, which means it's reasonable to assume many people who play it might just be teens.

i.e. If you don't find something wrong with the idea that, if you're a 30 year old man and you're having cybersex with someone who, for all you know, *could* be a 13 year old kid, then there's something seriously screwed up about you in the head.

Seriously.

ERP with someone whom you do not know IRL is irresponsible. At best. Squicky pseudo-pederasty at worst.

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I've never seen a team spot filling request ask for RP preferred. Never. There must be a private channel for that. But otherwise no it's not dead either.

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I've done it sometimes in Broadcast, but I find the best way to get RPers on the team is to ask for team members while In Character.

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I am extremely new to dominators and have been curious for a while. What are they? Are they a ranged AT, support AT, melee? I am perplexed because they have ranged, melee, and support powers.

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Dominators are like those guys who spin plates on sticks. They spin a plate, put it on a stick, move to another stick, spin yet another plate on it, etc. When one plate starts to wind down, they run over, and spin it back up. Eventually they have a bunch of plates on sticks going then the show REALLY starts.

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RP? What is RP? I've heard the myths of such things on Virtue long long ago, but all I see now is people cybering in the corners of the D, while other people pretend their characters are so cool and hit on other characters so that they can get some in the corner...

It's so sad.

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I don't see that happening very often where I am in the D.

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Have you ever journeyed beyond the Center of the D?

I'm talking about the Corners... CORNERS!!! FEAR THEM!!

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Its so true, So much Dude on Dude action, pretending they are girls, scary!

Jus swap toons to dudes on dudes, I wouldnt care, but when its 2 dudes pretending to be 2 gals, who are pretedning to have some pedo lesbian schoolgirl futa catgirl succubus action, something jus aint right there.

JJ

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Whats worse is this is a "T" rated game which means one of them could be 30 years old, and the other one could be 13.

Really people... THINK before you ERP!

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Or has it become a pretty much a dead artform?

Im just curious.

I mean, consistent, plotted RP with activities and such, and not just Pocket D lounging, or forum Rookery silliness.

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Thats ALL we do over here on my end in our SG. We have intricate plots, counter plots, and intrigues. We RP while we're missioning. Pocket D is generally avoided because it's pretty lame (see previous posts)

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I was talking to a friend about this. And it seems the only way to solve this...IC/OOC mix-up is to make an OFFICIAL RP server...and it kindda made sense.

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Wont happen. Servers are at low as it is so adding a new server would be currently counter productive. The best that could happen is Posi holds an event to vote for servers and basically rename the chosen server as a dedicated RP server.

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By "chosen server" we obviously mean "Virtue" and I'm ok with that. They'd just need to give a free server xfer to all characters on Virtue who didn't want to be on an RP server.

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That's why, as of late, I've decided to avoid RP. I've decided to join some VGs (which is something I never wanted to do, because I dislike the idea of cliques), and I'm having loads of fun. I just wish people in the "RP Community" were more respectful to each other and accepted that every person RPs for different reasons; and regardless of what their reasons and goals are, they're still RPing and enjoying themselves.

Then there is the endless sea of 'drama' that is popular in the RP community. And I'm not talking about in-character drama. RP is drama. I'm talking about people confuse in-character and out-of-character interactions, people who mix the borders of IC and OOC and let their feelings ruin plots that are potentially hurting their characters. And personally, I am also sick and tired of this type of drama.

Unless you roll a character who is a Generic Anti-hero #6625, people seem to dislike you when it comes to 'open RP communities' like Pocket D. If you ever want to play a true villain who eats babies and kills puppies, everyone will hate YOU because ZOMG YOU ARE A BAD PERSON BECAUSE YOU ARE PLAYING A BAD CHARACTER! I have actually had that happen.

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I've had this happen too. I'm really tired of wishy-washy RP where everyone has to be "cool" and "edgy" in the Socially Approved Way that the players behind the characters agree with. It's really really lame.

There's plenty of REAL RPers around who don't read OOC into IC interactions, but you need to hunt for them.

Maybe we should set up our own "meet and greet" place? The Monkey Fight Club in P-D is pretty empty most of the time.

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Plus, von Grun gives out the Best. Temp Power. EVAR! BEES!!

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Try as I might, EVERY time I even hear about this, my brain IMMEDIATELY goes straight to this.

Michelle
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Samuraiko/Dark_Respite

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Ha! I now am picturing Eddie Izzard cast in the role of Vernon von Grun... which is actually pretty cool.