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But a lot of people don't use Taunt. They just take it because it makes it easier for them to get a team.

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I'm sorry, but what a load of [censored]. Tankers do not just take Taunt so they can get a team. Unless your going on personal experience with your tank. If thats the case maybe you really think how you play yours in the future. Taunt is useful, its a tool which helps the tanker do its job in a team based enviroment (and even zonal PvP enviroments too). If it wasn't useful then why would it be in the tanker sets? You may as well give blasters Taunt in their primaries

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2. Scrappers can crit on a regular basis (not having to wait until hidden or the target is held/mezzed)
5.If played in a team enviroment (especially on a LGTF or ITF where there is a higher chance of getting a troller or a dom in the team) the stalker might have a higher DPS due to the amount of crits he/she can pull off *IF* the enemy is mezzed.

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Shhhh! I've not played my stalker in a while lol

on and to add to that list:

6. AS has the demoralizing effect against a target that it doesnt kill out-right and surrounding mobs to that target.

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The only teams where nobody dies are great teams, not teams with great tanks..

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This.

A team where no one dies is more down to the performance of the whole team rather than one individual. That said I have seen bad teams held up by one or two really outstanding individuals.

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I have seen teams stand up on the back of the fact a kin was in it, or for the fact that a sonic was in it, or got lucky due to a bubbler was in the team. Take away the type of support they were getting and put in another they'd of failed. Some people seem to be lost without certain types of support versus certain enemies.

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Like how some Granite tanks moan if they dont have a Kin in the team for example

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Slightly off-topic but still rather close to the existing line of discussion:

Exactly the same situation as before, but what if: you now have Scrapper and a Stalker in front of you, which one will you go for?

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For example, you are in a team of 7 ready to start a LGTF or an ITF. The team is very balanced: you have a tank, ranged, control and supports. What is missing is a melee AT. What would you go for: a scrapper or a brute?

Assuming all of you are the same level.

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I have mixed feelings about this, and my reasons are:

1. Scrappers have higher HP than stalkers, therefore last longer in a 'scrap'
2. Scrappers can crit on a regular basis (not having to wait until hidden or the target is held/mezzed)
3.Stalkers however, have the ability to debuff enemies (Ninjutsu -Acc for example) and this can be used to team benefit.
4. I also know that some stalkers can scrap better than a scrapper (particulary EM/Regen) so it can be set dependant
5.If played in a team enviroment (especially on a LGTF or ITF where there is a higher chance of getting a troller or a dom in the team) the stalker might have a higher DPS due to the amount of crits he/she can pull off *IF* the enemy is mezzed.

Again, mixed feelings, and it for me, would partially be on what the team consisted of. Generally i'm not fussed with who/what AT i play with, but i've not met anyone to date who wants to fail a TF, wether it be for fun or not.

Back on topic though, scrappers and brutes are similar in so many ways, but there are certain things that a brute for example is better at than a scrapper (like tanking, due to higher HP etc), where a scrapper imo is better for killing single targets faster due to their ability to crit. From what I've read all evidence is very circumstantial to certain situations, at the end of the day, it all boils down to what it is being used for.

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I have a degree in Maths, Physics and Astrophysics (as well as an advanced degree in Multimedia Computing). I teach A level Physics and Mathematics. I think my maths is legit.

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Does that mean you know your 3 times tables?! Hax!

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HO's are not a decent reward.They cost 10-15 million which is dirty cheap and easy to acquire through TF's.


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Dirty cheap?
DIRTY CHEAP?!

In that case TG I'm coming to you to get enough HO's for all my toons

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Brutes are what scrappers aim to be.

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But with so much more sophistication and style

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If by sophistication and style you mean slow? Then yeah....I guess I see your point.

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Brutes are eeeeeeeeeeeevil
Scrappers ftw!
Besides there is nothing more satisfying than critting on a Tier 9 power with BU on it, pretty much one-shotting most stuff. Brutes can't do that...so ner ner

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I retract this comment, Brutes are so much better than scrappers after playing one through the early levels

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Admit it - some Brutes beat you up until you agreed to say this

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Erm...if I said no, would you think I'm lying?

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Yes - because there's probably a big Brute standing right behind you with his fists raised

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1. No.
2. Now you've made me paranoid

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Brutes are what scrappers aim to be.

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But with so much more sophistication and style

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If by sophistication and style you mean slow? Then yeah....I guess I see your point.

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Brutes are eeeeeeeeeeeevil
Scrappers ftw!
Besides there is nothing more satisfying than critting on a Tier 9 power with BU on it, pretty much one-shotting most stuff. Brutes can't do that...so ner ner

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I retract this comment, Brutes are so much better than scrappers after playing one through the early levels

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Admit it - some Brutes beat you up until you agreed to say this

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Erm...if I said no, would you think I'm lying?

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Brutes are what scrappers aim to be.

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But with so much more sophistication and style

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If by sophistication and style you mean slow? Then yeah....I guess I see your point.

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Brutes are eeeeeeeeeeeevil
Scrappers ftw!
Besides there is nothing more satisfying than critting on a Tier 9 power with BU on it, pretty much one-shotting most stuff. Brutes can't do that...so ner ner

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I retract this comment, Brutes are so much better than scrappers after playing one through the early levels

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Firstly - you's best be not touching ma SquidLobsterMans.

Secondly - I want an end to the farming of animated hair in pvp.

Finally - a low gravity zone (1/10th normal) with edible scenary populated by edgy 90s extreme characters covered in pouches. Filled with love.

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Whatever your taking...I WANT SOME!

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I'd go scrapper for spines and BroadSword.

Spines for mass pokey pokey (ooo matron)

BS for swinging a big lump of steel with a weird starey eye (rularuu BS) and hacking stuff up.

Nothing epitomises scrappers more to me than the head splitter. A propper boom headshot moment.

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^ This. Why didn't I think of this

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Besides there is nothing more satisfying than critting on a Tier 9 power with BU on it, pretty much one-shotting most stuff. Brutes can't do that...so ner ner

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True, but a full Fury Lightning Rod with BU? Bye-bye!

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Never had the opportunity to do so, but i'll take your word fot it

Ehrgeiz lvl 50 Fire/Elec
Fail lvl ?? Psi/Energy

Shen' lvl 50 Fire/Super Strength
Shen. lvl 38 Stone/EM

Soulja lvl 50 Katana/Regen
Decimation lvl 50 Spines/Regen
Bam lvl 38 Broadsword/Fire

Ragnarok. lvl 50 Fire/Rad
Infernal Dawn lvl 39 Fire/Empathy

If there was anything you could change about/in this game, what would it be and why?

[u]No[u] talk about the removal of PvP please, it only starts arguments

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Yea thats an awesome idea, how about "C.A.P.E: Caffeinated Adults Play Effectively" with the motto "Get off my back i'm wired...."

or

"T.A.N.K: Taking Aged Nanny's Kicking" Motto - Giving OAPS's kicking rights since 1942. Also all characters have to be aged/zombie faces with white or no hair, sg colours dark green (like your old mans tweed jacket) and dark brown (like the old cord trousers they wear) lol

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And they are also not allowed to have a travel power, especially not super speed

I can see CoH getting a Dynasty Warrior theme if this actually happens...AWESOME!

/Signed

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Brutes are what scrappers aim to be.

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But with so much more sophistication and style

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If by sophistication and style you mean slow? Then yeah....I guess I see your point.

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Brutes are eeeeeeeeeeeevil
Scrappers ftw!
Besides there is nothing more satisfying than critting on a Tier 9 power with BU on it, pretty much one-shotting most stuff. Brutes can't do that...so ner ner

From this build posted (and please note this is only my personal suggestion and not in any way a criticism ) instead of Laser Beam Eyes take focussed accuracy as you will have more than enough recovery to deal with it. instead of hurdle at 47 take hasten for a faster recharge on ET and TF. Might be an idea to take out the Numi unique from RttC and put it in Health, also might be worth adding the miracle +recovery in health too. This also free's up an extra slot. And that also means you can take out a slot in health which gives a second spare slot.

Also adding chance for KB in Barrage and EP might not be the best of idea's, you want to keep aggro in range for RttC and not be chasing it about.

Aside from that and not taking the build apart and putting it together from scratch it looks like something i'd build/play

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Rofl. Is this thread STILL going on? I really cba to read through all that has been posted since my previous one. And I hardly see the point in this continuing.


[/ QUOTE ]You're new here, aren't you?

We're only on page 2 now, taunt threads tend to go on far longer than that.

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No Max, I'm not new, been playing this game from issue 4, not only that I don't post on the forums much, but that doesn't mean I neglect to read them

Rofl. Is this thread STILL going on? I really cba to read through all that has been posted since my previous one. And I hardly see the point in this continuing.

At the end of the day, people are going to play what they want to play. And thats the way it should be. It's their account which they pay for, and they are entitled to do what they want. No matter how much people moan about this that and the other in regards to taking/not taking certain powers nothing is going to change. And I wouldn't be at all suprised if GR steps in before this whole thread gets blown out of proportion

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I too have concerns regarding I13... I got the feeling with I12 there was a distinct move away from the classic superhero comicbook game with Cimerora, clearly trying to cash in on Frank Miller's 300 and the subsequent movie.

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Uh? What similarities do you see between Cimerora and 300? I'm hard pressed to find any.

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The fact that they both involve Romans *Shock! Horror!*

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Never seen Ultraviolet... its not nowhere, we have flatspace technology!

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No. Just No. lol

Back mounted Sheaths/Scabbards (can never remember which is which) is already incorporated on Ninja pets on a MM. Surely it wouldnt be hard to do a bit of tweaking and make it available for character customisation