Shadus

Resolved.

Reformat fixed it, must have been a driver somewhere.

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May I also make a suggestion? Two actually.

1. Run the game in compatibiltiy mode.
2. Run it under XPM.

I am testing Win 7 64 bit with CoH and so far, I have had the occasional disconnect, but not the problem your having.


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My wife's laptop is about half to a third of my specs and it works *fine* without compat mode or anything else. I've tried 4-5 different compat modes (xp sp2, xp sp3, vista, vista sp, etc)... XPM would probably work as its virtualized but it would still be unplayable, be like running it under vmware or parallels.

Edit: Just tried changing theme down to "windows classic" which gets rid of pretty much everything graphically speaking and rebooted and tried it. No difference.

Any other suggestions? I'm bout to wipe the COH install and reinstall, verify didn't find anything wrong, but maybe something is that it didn't catch.

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Ok, I built a machine closer to your specs and used a Nvidia 700 series card and when I would run CoX I too would get your problem. However, when I removed the older vid card and put in a 9800 series then it loaded fine. One of the things I noticed is that the dx call is a v11 and 700 series could not run even the dx 10. I suspect that this is the culprit. I culled through the dll's looking for a dx 9 function call and found none.

May I suggest, if you have another video card try that and retry the game. As to the poster running with a 260 card, I'm stumped there. You should be ok. I to am running Win 7 64 bit ,but i am using the Radeon. I have a 260 laying around, let me see if I can dup your system and problem.

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I just finished nuking entire system and reloading, COH is downloading as we speak. I think its off the hardware as a general rule and on drivers somewhere... be they specific to the 7100 build or nvidia or something else.

Unfortunately, I don't have anything but a 7800 series card presently that is functional (well excluding a 5200 series card... O_o... which I think is AGP.) I'm in process of putting together a new system anyways, which should make this issue a moot point since I'd get a newer video card too.

Hopefully the reload of win rc7 does it... if not I think I'll just make the jump to using a linux only desktop, been pondering it for years but haven't due to a few games not working... eq2, wow, coh, steam all work fine under it now though, so might as well. Prettier too. Sad when it's easier to get a program to run emulated through wine than it is to run it native even when it's a new version of the os.

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Well, it IS a performance issue, it's just not being caused by wussy hardware.


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Actually, I'd disagree, I think it's probably a flakey w7 driver at this point.

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Have you got any anti-virus programs running? Maybe something about the game has irked it so that it scans files many times per load.


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No AV, No AS. I loaded clamav and had a scan of entire system though to rule out viruses and verified with rootkit revealer also.

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Or maybe the game has landed in a bad spot on your hard drive. Have you tried doing a diskcheck lately?


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Yeap, I'm a geek for a living (unix admin for >15 years) hardware faults were top of my list of things to check and rule out individually. I also defragmented the drive and it was on a fresh format. I was playing fine on XP before this. *shrug*.

Drive is good, memory is good, cpu is fine, power supply rails are giving correct voltage, and there are no new devices being used.

I'm giving it a format this weekend see if that has any results.

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Since you're running the 64 bit make sure that your CoH file folder is in the Program Files (x86) folder or you will have issues. If you don't already have it there, just copy the entire folder, then paste it into the (x86) folder. You can leave it also in the Program Files folder, but you'll want to shortcut the one out of the (x86) folder. I installed Win 7RC 64-Bit on a new hard drive and I haven't had a single issue with it. But look to see which file you have it in.

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That's the thing that gets me, this IS a fresh Win7 install. Just like my wife's laptop I tested on first... and with higher specs its running at a fraction of the speed.

Not sure on the first install, but this install definitely is currently residing in C:\Program Files (x86)\City of Heroes

I'm bout to blow system off and reinstall and see if that corrects the problem.

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One thing I'm wondering is if it might have...<SNIP>... and re-directing the updater to the new copy.

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I'll try the different directory idea, but it's not a general performance issue, my wifes laptop is crap compared to my pc and it runs COH fine in windows 7... same ram, less processor, 5400 rpm hd.

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Any suggestions? Ideas? I'm out... and basically can't play at all at this point (never logs in). I'd think it was network but it can't even bring up the login screen for many minutes.

The part that bothers me in general is that my wifes laptop runs it fine running on far less specs than I've got. It's snappier than vista was for her.

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Out of curiosity, how did you reinstall CoH after installing Win 7, was it a fresh install?

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Yes and No My first thing was just to copy the directory from my wife's RC7 machine and rerun the downloader... then these problems started so I wiped coh off the machine entirely (directory, all shortcuts, etc) and reinstalled using the downloader.

I've been tinkering with it some more today and right now it's sitting at the load screen for Independence port and has been for about 10m, the main access is read access on geom.pigg and the swapfile after that. The blue progress bar is about half the width of a dime in that time... and most of the time the task manager is reporting COH as not responding.

I've checked the hard faults, network activity, disk io wait, and even cpu usage and it's all peachy looking. I've updated drivers, reinstalled the game, removed aero, tried it in every compatibility mode, tweaked settings to absolute minimum, and it's still not working.

I'll be happy to provide any information that anyone wants if they think they can diagnose this beast. I'd really like to get back in game....

I'm open to any sane suggestion at this point. I've even relocated my swap to another drive in case it was just a case of iowait.

Any suggestions? Ideas? I'm out... and basically can't play at all at this point (never logs in). I'd think it was network but it can't even bring up the login screen for many minutes.

The part that bothers me in general is that my wifes laptop runs it fine running on far less specs than I've got. It's snappier than vista was for her.

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When i had startup issues, i found if i turned off UAC it had a negitive effect and would stick before the login screen. I reset it to all defaults and it worked great. I still have to give it admin rights to run the game properly. Hope that helps, or at least helps someone.

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The game starts, kinda... I can't actually ever get *in* the game. I did try setting UAC back to the default and that was a no go still. Good suggestion though since that was the first thing i shut off after the machine came up :P

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May I also make a suggestion? Two actually.

1. Run the game in compatibiltiy mode.
2. Run it under XPM.

I am testing Win 7 64 bit with CoH and so far, I have had the occasional disconnect, but not the problem your having.


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My wife's laptop is about half to a third of my specs and it works *fine* without compat mode or anything else. I've tried 4-5 different compat modes (xp sp2, xp sp3, vista, vista sp, etc)... XPM would probably work as its virtualized but it would still be unplayable, be like running it under vmware or parallels.

Edit: Just tried changing theme down to "windows classic" which gets rid of pretty much everything graphically speaking and rebooted and tried it. No difference.

Any other suggestions? I'm bout to wipe the COH install and reinstall, verify didn't find anything wrong, but maybe something is that it didn't catch.

So, I'm having some serious issues with CoH & Windows 7, as a test I installed Win7 on my wife's laptop and it plays fine... ironically with an ATI card it plays great, better than it did on Vista.

So I load it up on my PC and GW works fine, EQ2 works fine, WOW works fine... COH... not so much.

I've tried various compatibility modes, I've tried hardware cursors, render threads, verifying all the files, etc. I'm at a loss with what is causing this issue.

I double click icon, it goes to the loading screen... for 20m... finally login comes up and I login... takes about a minute to goto character select... then after I select a character about 3-6m to goto the loading screen... 5-10m at the loading screen and it goes to the "zone loading" screen and it goes to about 10% eventually then times out and goes back to the login screen.

I'm at loss at this point, I have no idea what else to try, any suggestions? I'm including a hijackthis log and a coh helper log along with this information to see if it helps anyone figure out what's up.

Edit: It's Windows 7 64-bit, GF 7800 GT, AMD X2 4000+ (2.11ghz), 2GB Corsair RAM, 8mb 7200 RPM 110gb WD Primary, secondary drives, 250mb 2mb 7200 WD additional, and 110gb external,

Edit: Since original post i've downloaded updated drivers from nvidia, I've tried running it windows and in desktop resolution (using tweakcoh) and tried running it in safe mode. All with the same results.

Edit: I also verified the windows firewall is off and my firewall works for my wife and used to work for my xp machine so i doubt that's the issue.

Edit: DxDiag: http://shadus.org/DxDiag.txt
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Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 9:34:18 PM, on 5/9/2009
Platform: Unknown Windows (WinNT 6.01.3004)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v8.00 (8.00.7100.0000)
Boot mode: Normal

Running processes:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page = C:\Windows\SysWOW64\blank.htm
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName =
F2 - REG:system.ini: UserInit=userinit.exe
O2 - BHO: Java(tm) Plug-In 2 SSV Helper - {DBC80044-A445-435b-BC74-9C25C1C588A9} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\jp2ssv.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\jusched.exe"
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Zoiper Communicator] C:\Program Files (x86)\Zoiper Communicator\Zoiper.exe
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [Sidebar] %ProgramFiles%\Windows Sidebar\Sidebar.exe /autoRun (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\RunOnce: [mctadmin] C:\Windows\System32\mctadmin.exe (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\Run: [Sidebar] %ProgramFiles%\Windows Sidebar\Sidebar.exe /autoRun (User 'NETWORK SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\RunOnce: [mctadmin] C:\Windows\System32\mctadmin.exe (User 'NETWORK SERVICE')
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\ssv.dll
O13 - Gopher Prefix:
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\Alg.exe,-112 (ALG) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\alg.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\efssvc.dll,-100 (EFS) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\fxsresm.dll,-118 (Fax) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\fxssvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @keyiso.dll,-100 (KeyIso) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @comres.dll,-2797 (MSDTC) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\msdtc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\System32\netlogon.dll,-102 (Netlogon) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (nvsvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\nvvsvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\psbase.dll,-300 (ProtectedStorage) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\Locator.exe,-2 (RpcLocator) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\locator.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\samsrv.dll,-1 (SamSs) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\snmptrap.exe,-3 (SNMPTRAP) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\snmptrap.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\spoolsv.exe,-1 (Spooler) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\spoolsv.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\sppsvc.exe,-101 (sppsvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\sppsvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: Steam Client Service - Valve Corporation - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Steam\SteamService.exe
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\ui0detect.exe,-101 (UI0Detect) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\UI0Detect.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\vaultsvc.dll,-1003 (VaultSvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\vds.exe,-100 (vds) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\vds.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\vssvc.exe,-102 (VSS) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\vssvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\wbengine.exe,-104 (wbengine) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\wbengine.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%Systemroot%\system32\wbem\wmiapsrv.exe,-110 (wmiApSrv) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\wbem\WmiApSrv.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%PROGRAMFILES%\Windows Media Player\wmpnetwk.exe,-101 (WMPNetworkSvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmpnetwk.exe (file missing)

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End of file - 5123 bytes


---System information gathered by CoH Helper version 0.1.1.7---

DxDiag gathered at May 9, 2009 21:35 (-04:00)
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7100) (7100.winmain_win7rc.090421-1700)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Central Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+ (2 CPUs), ~2.1GHz
Memory: 2048MB
.Net Memory Report: 1143MB out of 2046MB available
Page File: 3159MB (933MB currently in use)
C Drive: (WDC WD1200JB-75CRA0 ATA Device) 96076MB out of 114337MB (84%) free
D Drive: (WDC WD1200BB-00CAA0 ATA Device) 55867MB out of 114470MB (48%) free
E Drive: (WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 ATA Device) 52396MB out of 238472MB (21%) free
G Drive: (WD 1200BB External USB Device) 22569MB out of 114470MB (19%) free
F Drive: (LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1H ATA Device) zero-size drive
Windows directory location: C:\Windows
DirectX: DirectX 11
DirectX Diag version: 6.01.7100.0000 (64-bit version)

Display Notes: No problems found.
Sound Notes: No problems found.
Input Notes: No problems found.

Monitor:
Monitor's Max Resolution: (blank)
Video Device Name: NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT (Prerelease - WDDM 1.0)
Manufacturer / Chip: NVIDIA / GeForce 7800 GT
Video Memory: 1016 MB
Driver Version: 8.15.11.8172
Driver Date: 4/2/2009 6:16:00 PM
Driver Language: English

Sound Device Description: Speakers (USB Audio Device)
Driver File: USBAUDIO.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7100.0000
Driver Date: 4/22/2009 12:15:18 AM


WMI Information
Motherboard Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Motherboard Model: (empty)
Motherboard Product: M2N-E SLI
Motherboard Version: 1.XX
BIOS Manufacturer: Phoenix Technologies, LTD
BIOS Name: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
BIOS Version: Nvidia - 42302e31
BIOS Release: 20071116000000.000000+000

Registry Information for Current User
Resolution: 1024x768
3D Resolution: 1024x768 (Not using renderscale)
Full Screen: Yes
Maximized: No
Screen Position: 0, 0
Refresh Rate: 60Hz
Vertical Sync Enabled: Yes

Physics Quality: Medium
Maximum Particles: 50000
Max Particle Fill? 10.000
Physics Card Enabled: No

Anti-aliasing: None
Anisotropic Filtering: 4x
Texture LOD Bias: Smooth
Water Effects: High Quality
Bloom: 1.000 (turned on)
Depth of Field Enabled: Yes
Desaturation Effects (Sepia) Enabled: Yes
Shader Detail: Unknown (3)

World Texture Level: Very High
Character Texture Level: Very High
World Detail Level (Vis_Scale): 1.000
Entity Detail Level: 1.000
Shadows Enabled: Yes
Gamma Correction: 1.000
Geometry Buffers (VBOs) Enabled: Yes
Suppression of Extra Player FX Enabled: No
Suppression of FX When Camera Close Enabled: No
Close Suppression Range: 3.000
Show Advertisements: Yes

Audio Mode: Performance
3D Audio: No
FX Sound Volume: 1.000
Music Sound Volume: 0.600

Show Advanced Graphics Options: No
Overall Graphics Quality: 0.600
Reverse Mouse Buttons: No
Save Login Username: Yes
Transfer Rate: Unknown bytes/second
Current Game Version: 18.20090422.2T
Installation Directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\City of Heroes

Mod files in the Data directory
No modifications found

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It's probably another anti-farming tool to prevent people from making missions that are completely filled with bosses and no minions surrounding them, which makes them easy pickings.

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That's pretty much what the 8 man farms want actually... All bosses, no minions. It's trivial to make that.

My suggestion would be silver rolls. Gold rolls are absolutely absurdly priced for the amount of utter crap in those pools. I might would roll gold if they added purples without removing the crap.

This is one of the most thought out well made ideas ive seen in a long time /signed I'd love to goto the moon... although lets avoid caves... hates them I do... :P

Like a dozen people have said-- update the trials to level 50, hami-o's are becoming scarce now since the changes to hami (great changes, took it from being monotonous to being annoying and monotonous)... this game suffers from a lack of end game content at least that would provide a bit more of it.

The lag effects my high level characters in the war zone, the admin spam is driving me out of my mind, any chance you could move it to system? error? *ANYWHERE* but admin? Make admin blockable but default it on to all channels? *SOMETHING* It's causing me to miss tells, miss things my group is saying, miss real admin messages, worst use of the admin channel in any mmo i've ever played... and I've been playing since m59 and LOK.

Be nice if they offered the in game stuff for the dvd edition in the ncsoft store like they do with the GvsE edition. I think the purple glowie sprint would be awsome for warshades and dark defenders. Anyone mention that idea to ex lib & light yet?

Would also be nice if the power slide sprint was included in the other prestige sprints if there is no chance of it being sold like the GvsE edition.

*Didn't notice the age of the thread either, but I still think would be nice to have this offered for a few dollars in the ncsoft store or alternately at least the sprint with the other prestige sprints*

Just wanted to comment your xp calculator is not accurate presently, and I'm not sure why. Here's the circumstances if you wish to recreate and test it, maybe its a rounding issue of some sort.

50+44+28(Sk'd to the 44)
50 Was working off debt of course normally
44 Was getting *steallar* exp
28(43) Wasn't getting any exp