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I had been working on a fire/mm build for a few months but I really like the secondary of ice where it affects speed and recharge. I was just wondering if the ice damage would be enough to really do a good job on AVs or even GMs.
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Hm. I would have thought that the ability to have perma-rage running while using hp and endurance refilling abilities from EA would solve a problem like that.
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My guess is that one of the sets is Super Strength for the Rage ability but I am not totally sure.
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What does it take for a tanker to beat up an AV/GM? I have read that it is possible but have seen no hint as to what powerset combo was used. Their damage output is lower than a scrapper and they don't have any powers to kill regen so I'm wondering what it takes?
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What about this build for Earth/Thermal? I put in Cold as the epic as I hope Hibernate for a few seconds should recover enough endurance to cope.
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I am trying to work on an Earth/Thermal build that is capable of taking out AVs and GMs. I may have gone a bit overboard on the recharge. End Recovery may become an issue. A different epic may be in order.
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I was looking at the stats for the pet ( http://coh.redtomax.com/data/powers/...?id=Pets_Stone ) and where it says '[Ignores Enhancements & Buffs]' does that mean it would ignore a resist buff from Thermal Shield?
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Thanks. Better I find out now then later. I thought maybe thermal shield might help but I'm guessing no.
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I am pretty new when it comes to controllers and I wanted to ask something. I am seeing many tales of controllers taking on AVs and GMs and winning with various powersets. I see very few ice controllers though and I am wondering if it is possible for an Ice/thermal controller to take one on and win? I can see how an Earth controller could with the Animate stone pet. It is a super tank. And the illusion controller for fairly obvious reasons. But can the ice troller do the same with Jack Frost backing him up?
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Good stuff, Umbral. You da man. Thanks alot. I was trying to work into something like that but I couldn't get it quite right. Good eye.
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I am actually just the opposite. I die less frequently with Regen than the other types and I tried all the secondaries at least once with the exception of Dark Armor since I don't like having all those endurance sucking toggles. Fire seemed a bit squishy for me. I died about as much as you do with Regen. I did not like the PB/AD from Super Reflexes and Shield (although I think what it gives is fantastic) and Invulnerability kept feeling like I was missing something. Personally I don't like micromanaging but I don't feel like there are many things I need to click in Regen. I guess I am used more going on for what I consider to be micromanaging.
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I take it this would probably work out better then?
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Thanks you two. That helped break it down for me
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Thanks guys. This is pretty much what I suspected but I wanted to ask and get opinions. I pretty much figured Regen for the top for PvP but I was curious what else might be considered good for PvP. For PvE I figured shields and Super Reflexes then Regen.
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I was wondering if I could get what would be considered the top 3 secondaries. A list of 3 for PvE and another for PvP as the two I am sure are not going to be the same. I know Regen is supposed to be considered the best but is it the best for both?
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I believe his build uses purples though. I've been trying to do it without purples and I don't think it is possible to pull off recharge, regen and defense without them.
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That wouldn't that make it the worst secondary if it wasn't for IOs? Without them, it doesn't seem like you'd be able to get any good defense out of it.
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This is what I am confused about. Are you saying Regen by itself is no good?
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Well I'm level 25 now and so far I haven't needed Dull Pain. I could get 2 more slots for it but I lose 20% regen if I do. I can place it earlier if need be. It just wasn't high on my priority list because I never had a need for it. I could slot Moment of Glory more towards recharge too and get it down to 90s. Kismet was a leftover because I felt I needed more accuracy but now that it seems to be more into my comfort zone already, I can slide it out.
The whole purpose behind the build was not to have to go into purples. If I had, I could up defense too but what would be the point? Then I go into basically the same builds everyone else has/wants and regen really should stand on its own. With the help of darkness mastery, I was able to make use of what it allows me to do to increase recharge by even more to get even more benefit from what regeneration allows me to do.
So I juggled a coyple of things around with what you mentioned to get a bit more out of Dull Pain and MoG and got 22% more health regen.
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Using advice and tips from Umbral, I think I managed to come up with a build for fire/regen/dark that works for me. I didn't go with purples because of cost involved although the build is still by no means cheap. Purples would improve it greatly though. But I did pull off around 59% recharge with 709% health regen. Think that is enough?
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Taking Umbral's knowledge and advice into account, I came up with this. I'll assume others have done it. Will/does it work? I managed to get 56.3% recharge without dipping into purples.
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Thanks alot Umbral. That was quite helpful to know.
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I have a question. After working on two builds I got this.
Code:What I am wondering is if I the IOs suffer some sort of penalty after you equip too many. I also worked on an em/regen build and came up with this:| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1401;683;1366;HEX;| |78DAA593DB4E13511486774F0EA527CA990252683943A1771E124D1450A46045E04| |A8552B6304933256D357267E2292A447D008F445FC0538CEFA00FA458D75AFFA609| |F1D249FBFF336BBE59FB9F953DF377A6824ADD3DAB5CE1F3855CB9BC7A355FCA6D6| |FEB92B590ABDC2AE50ACA524AC50EABABF3BAA0756AC6D6A51D9C77D76E4DE99BDA| |29EBD4A2DED48E2EE52A76D189CE3A5BBAA49D4AEAF024902D160BA99982BDB9550| |9E2DCAE38BA5C0E990BAADBCE6654AE669DDB76D95EB70B7665273ABD6DE753E78A| |1BB470AE5CA100ED946C98FEF738A21C55AF5A231B546E4D965675EB62E1BC58EF8| |6D814E32EC1DD6AD9C525EF15B1605280FB96B94FFD5C6B523ADAAF01FD92E8F780| |708FC13DC0BDE0EAC135801B408F19C27D58DEE3DB7573E9D81EECB958EF0BB169E| |22CD3D6BA8C7C59B170462C392F36B820F690583FDABAFCFBD2A1FEB5989FEE04D0| |480512922140A590298550F2512982E75504258B4A5133A82806D58841356250750| |43419A0292EA5E6237691801600DE16BC43EB1C0CEF3078E41D1E13DE665EB9ED97| |846FFF0D3B101BF923365E157B427887C13B30F818061FC3E04730F8110CFE12E19| |D06EF44982E0CB40B61D2089346984784771BBCFBA37438FE09F619F6456CE2ABD8| |53C27B0CDE8330718489234C1C617A11E602E17D06EF439804C224102681304984C| |910DE0FDCDDDF2CA58116D881E29C4BB40387007886DEC978865FC1DEC0DE8A2D13| |370ACE37BA2F51C6DEC3F614471A7B2636FE0393FE29F681364BCAECD9D48AAC3B7| |1C6C5EB4E6027A461731473D2ECABC9512975796B1F27FDE850997F2A596FED8353| |2EA9F4786BDFE87F1DDF82876BF917EB499758B22C2B2CD758AEB3DC60C9B1ACB3E| |459AADF6B4F474E70A0932CA7584EB3EC3264F1A7156009B28458C22C1196069626| |96569618CB4B96EA5F497AFF18| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
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.. I love running up and getting face to face with them and taking out as many of them as I can before I go down.