Question regarding /regen and IOs

Shadowraithe · 03-03-2010 10:52 PM

I have a question. After working on two builds I got this.

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What I am wondering is if I the IOs suffer some sort of penalty after you equip too many. I also worked on an em/regen build and came up with this:

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One is obviously more expensive than the other. But the fire one won't work well if the IOs don't stack very well. So that is my question. Would 4 sets of Crushing Impacts get 20% bonus to recharge or would it be less if they don't stack perfectly?

Umbral · 03-03-2010 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowraithe

What I am wondering is if I the IOs suffer some sort of penalty after you equip too many.

You can only get 5 of the same set bonus. It doesn't matter which sets you get them from. All that matters is the name. The same applies to any other bonus you get from IOs.

In your first build, you're stacking 5 5 piece Crushing Impacts, 4 5 piece Doctored Wounds, a 5 piece Obliteration for 10 5% +rech set bonuses, so 5 of them are getting eaten by the Rule of 5. In the second, you're stacking 11 and getting 6 eaten by the rule of 5.

If you want to see how your set bonuses stand, click Window>Sets & Bonuses. This will bring up a window that shows you your totals and the individual bonuses you're getting. If you're over the cap, there will even be a warning for you and, as you scroll down the list of individual set bonuses, it will even tell you which ones are breaking the Rule of 5.

Shadowraithe · 03-04-2010 09:42 AM

Thanks alot Umbral. That was quite helpful to know.

Shadowraithe · 03-05-2010 08:13 PM

Taking Umbral's knowledge and advice into account, I came up with this. I'll assume others have done it. Will/does it work? I managed to get 56.3% recharge without dipping into purples.

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