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Questions on fire/reg

ClawsandEffect

By ClawsandEffect,
Posted on: 2010-03-09 19:13 in Scrappers

 

Posted

Hi everybody, just coming back from about an 8 month hiatus.
I have a fire/reg that is sitting at 28, that I apparently gutted for all the IO's he had, so I am starting with pretty much a blank slate.

I have been messing around and mids, and for the life of me can not come up with a build I am happy with.

I plan to team, run TF's, maybe try to solo some AV's, and do a little bit of PvP.
I understand that building for def, rech, and +hp are my best bets, but I can't seem to balance it out. Any help in the right direction would be appreciated, if anyone has any experience with these two sets.

Forgot to add:

Would really like to have hasten, ss, cj, sj, tough, and weave. Money is a slight option, no purples or PvP IO's, but almost anything else I can manage.

Willpower has more passive regen than Regen does. Who thought that was a good idea?

Can we get a fix for Energy Melee instead of more new sets?

 

Posted

In short: slot for recharge first, and then for some +hp and defense. Here's a quick and dirty sample build according to your parameters:

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.621
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Natural Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Secondary Power Set: Regeneration
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Fire Sword -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(3), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(3), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), T'Death-Dam%(34)
Level 1: Fast Healing -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(15), Numna-Heal/Rchg(21)
Level 2: Cremate -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(11), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(11), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), T'Death-Dam%(36)
Level 4: Reconstruction -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Rchg(5), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(5), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal(7)
Level 6: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(21), EndMod-I(23)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Zephyr-Travel(23), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(25), Zephyr-ResKB(25)
Level 10: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Rchg(27), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(27), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Dct'dW-Heal(34)
Level 12: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 14: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(15)
Level 16: Integration -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Dct'dW-Heal(19)
Level 18: Fire Sword Circle -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Oblit-%Dam(37)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(39), EndMod-I(39)
Level 22: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(39), Zephyr-ResKB(40)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(40), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 26: Incinerate -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(43), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(43), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), T'Death-Dam%(45)
Level 28: Instant Healing -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Rchg(29), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(29), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Dct'dW-Heal(31)
Level 30: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(45), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(46), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(48), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(50), GSFC-Build%(50)
Level 32: Greater Fire Sword -- T'Death-Dam%(A), T'Death-Acc/Dmg(33), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(33), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(33), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 35: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 38: Moment of Glory -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 41: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam(42), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(42), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 44: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(46), LkGmblr-Def(46)
Level 47: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(48), Zephyr-ResKB(48)
Level 49: [Empty]
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:

  • 15.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
  • 15.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
  • 15.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
  • 15.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
  • 15.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
  • 15.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
  • 15.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
  • 15.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
  • 13.6% Defense(Smashing)
  • 13.6% Defense(Lethal)
  • 8.94% Defense(Fire)
  • 8.94% Defense(Cold)
  • 8.94% Defense(Energy)
  • 8.94% Defense(Negative)
  • 3% Defense(Psionic)
  • 24.3% Defense(Melee)
  • 14.9% Defense(Ranged)
  • 14.9% Defense(AoE)
  • 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 16% Enhancement(Heal)
  • 47.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 15% FlySpeed
  • 165.7 HP (12.4%) HitPoints
  • 15% JumpHeight
  • 15% JumpSpeed
  • Knockback (Mag -12)
  • Knockup (Mag -12)
  • MezResist(Held) 11%
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 11%
  • MezResist(Sleep) 2.2%
  • MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
  • MezResist(Terrorized) 8.8%
  • 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
  • 22% (1.23 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 5.04% Resistance(Fire)
  • 5.04% Resistance(Cold)
  • 15% RunSpeed



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More recharge can be gained by relaxing your parameters and lowering defense a bit

 

Posted

If you get enough recharge you can have perma Dull Pain and not need to worry about +HP.

You only need about 55% according to Umbral's math.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
If you get enough recharge you can have perma Dull Pain and not need to worry about +HP.

You only need about 55% according to Umbral's math.
I believe his build uses purples though. I've been trying to do it without purples and I don't think it is possible to pull off recharge, regen and defense without them.

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowraithe View Post
I believe his build uses purples though. I've been trying to do it without purples and I don't think it is possible to pull off recharge, regen and defense without them.
I know it's possible to get 55% global recharge without purples, I've done it. It requires Blaze or Dark Mastery, but as a regen you can afford to not take Physical Perfection.

5xDecimation in a ranged attack, 4xBasilisk's Gaze in a Hold, 5xPosi's Blast in a targeted AoE. That nets you 20% recharge right there. Blaze or Dark Mastery gives you all 3 of those things, I'd go Blaze because Fireball isn't a cone that would make you leave melee range to use.

5x 5% recharge bonuses from any combination of Obliteration, Crushing Impact or Doctored Wounds for another 25%. 45% total.

2xLotG recharge IOs for another 15% leaving your total at 60%. If Dull Pain and Hasten are both slotted to at least 95% recharge within the power itself, you should be capable of perma Dull Pain.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

 

Posted

Some good ideas in here. I'll have to post the build I currently have planned. Will have to wait until I get back from the furniture store. My wife decided to buy a bookshelf the day that I did legs at the gym. Squats for 300 Lbs. and leg press for 1,000, now I have to move furniture. Think I'm gonna PvP her later.

Willpower has more passive regen than Regen does. Who thought that was a good idea?

Can we get a fix for Energy Melee instead of more new sets?

 

Posted

Ok, so this is what I myself have been able to come up with. Feel free to tear it apart.

[color:#1E90FF]Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.621[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]http://www.cohplanner.com/[/color]

[color:#FFA500]Click this DataLink to open the build![/color]

[color:#1E90FF]Corporal Prime 2.0:[/color][color:#1E90FF] Level 50 Magic Scrapper[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Primary Power Set: [/color][color:#1E90FF]Fiery Melee[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Secondary Power Set: [/color][color:#1E90FF]Regeneration[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#1E90FF]Fitness[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#1E90FF]Leaping[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#1E90FF]Speed[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#1E90FF]Fighting[/color]

[color:#1E90FF]Hero Profile:[/color]
[color:#32CD32]Level 1:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Fire Sword[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Dmg[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/EndRdx[/color](5)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/Rchg[/color](23)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Dmg/EndRdx[/color](29)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg[/color](36)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dam%[/color](37)
[color:#32CD32]Level 1:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Fast Healing[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]Numna-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Numna-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal/EndRdx[/color](3)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Mrcl-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal[/color](3)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Mrcl-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal/EndRdx[/color](40)
[color:#32CD32]Level 2:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Cremate[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]Mako-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Dmg[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Mako-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/EndRdx[/color](5)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Mako-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/Rchg[/color](23)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Mako-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/EndRdx/Rchg[/color](29)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Mako-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg[/color](36)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Mako-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dam%[/color](36)
[color:#32CD32]Level 4:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Quick Recovery[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]P'Shift-[/color][color:#FFE600]End%[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]P'Shift-[/color][color:#FFE600]EndMod[/color](9)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]P'Shift-[/color][color:#FFE600]EndMod/Acc[/color](9)
[color:#32CD32]Level 6:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Reconstruction[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]Dct'dW-[/color][color:#FFE600]Rchg[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Dct'dW-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal[/color](7)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Dct'dW-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal/EndRdx/Rchg[/color](7)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Dct'dW-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal/Rchg[/color](25)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Dct'dW-[/color][color:#FFE600]EndRdx/Rchg[/color](37)
[color:#32CD32]Level 8:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Build Up[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]Rec'dRet-[/color][color:#FFE600]Pcptn[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]RechRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](27)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]RechRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](39)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]RechRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](39)
[color:#32CD32]Level 10:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Dull Pain[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]Dct'dW-[/color][color:#FFE600]Rchg[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Dct'dW-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal[/color](11)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Dct'dW-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal/EndRdx/Rchg[/color](11)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Dct'dW-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal/Rchg[/color](13)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Dct'dW-[/color][color:#FFE600]EndRdx/Rchg[/color](13)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]RechRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](25)
[color:#32CD32]Level 12:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Swift[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]Run[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)
[color:#32CD32]Level 14:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Health[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]Numna-[/color][color:#FFE600]Regen/Rcvry+[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Mrcl-[/color][color:#FFE600]Rcvry+[/color](15)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Numna-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal[/color](15)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]RgnTis-[/color][color:#FFE600]Regen+[/color](40)
[color:#32CD32]Level 16:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Integration[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]Numna-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Numna-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal/EndRdx/Rchg[/color](17)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Numna-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal/EndRdx[/color](17)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Numna-[/color][color:#FFE600]EndRdx/Rchg[/color](19)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Numna-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal/Rchg[/color](40)
[color:#32CD32]Level 18:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Fire Sword Circle[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]Oblit-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Oblit-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Rchg[/color](19)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Oblit-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/Rchg[/color](31)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Oblit-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Dmg/Rchg[/color](34)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Oblit-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg[/color](34)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Oblit-[/color][color:#FFE600]%Dam[/color](37)
[color:#32CD32]Level 20:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Stamina[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]P'Shift-[/color][color:#FFE600]End%[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]P'Shift-[/color][color:#FFE600]EndMod[/color](21)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]P'Shift-[/color][color:#FFE600]EndMod/Acc[/color](21)
[color:#32CD32]Level 22:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Combat Jumping[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]LkGmblr-[/color][color:#FFE600]Rchg+[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]LkGmblr-[/color][color:#FFE600]Def[/color](50)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Ksmt-[/color][color:#FFE600]ToHit+[/color](50)
[color:#32CD32]Level 24:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Super Jump[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]EndRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)
[color:#32CD32]Level 26:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Hasten[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]RechRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]RechRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](27)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]RechRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](46)
[color:#32CD32]Level 28:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Boxing[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFD700]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#32CD32]Level 30:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Instant Healing[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]Dct'dW-[/color][color:#FFE600]Rchg[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Dct'dW-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal[/color](31)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Dct'dW-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal/Rchg[/color](31)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Dct'dW-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal/EndRdx[/color](46)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]Dct'dW-[/color][color:#FFE600]Heal/EndRdx/Rchg[/color](46)
[color:#32CD32]Level 32:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Incinerate[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Dmg[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/EndRdx[/color](33)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/Rchg[/color](33)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Dmg/EndRdx[/color](33)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg[/color](34)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dam%[/color](39)
[color:#32CD32]Level 35:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Tough[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]EndRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]ResDam[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](48)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]ResDam[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](48)
[color:#32CD32]Level 38:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Weave[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]LkGmblr-[/color][color:#FFE600]Rchg+[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]LkGmblr-[/color][color:#FFE600]Def/EndRdx[/color](43)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]LkGmblr-[/color][color:#FFE600]Def[/color](48)
[color:#32CD32]Level 41:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Greater Fire Sword[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Dmg[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/EndRdx[/color](42)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/Rchg[/color](42)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Acc/Dmg/EndRdx[/color](42)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg[/color](43)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]T'Death-[/color][color:#FFE600]Dam%[/color](43)
[color:#32CD32]Level 44:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Moment of Glory[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]LkGmblr-[/color][color:#FFE600]Rchg+[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFE600]LkGmblr-[/color][color:#FFE600]Def/Rchg[/color](45)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]RechRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](45)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]RechRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](45)
[color:#32CD32]Level 47:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Super Speed[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]EndRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)
[color:#32CD32]Level 49:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Resilience[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]S'fstPrt-[/color][color:#FFE600]ResDam/Def+[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]ResDam[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](50)
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[color:#32CD32]Level 1:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Brawl[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFD700]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#32CD32]Level 1:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Sprint[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFE600]Clrty-[/color][color:#FFE600]Stlth[/color](A)
[color:#32CD32]Level 2:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Rest[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFD700]Empty[/color](A)
[color:#32CD32]Level 1:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Critical Hit[/color]
[color:#32CD32]Level 0:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Ninja Run[/color]



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Willpower has more passive regen than Regen does. Who thought that was a good idea?

Can we get a fix for Energy Melee instead of more new sets?

 

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I believe his build uses purples though. I've been trying to do it without purples and I don't think it is possible to pull off recharge, regen and defense without them.
My build uses purples but that doesn't mean the math requires purples. 55% +rech is actually quite easy to get. I would personally got for 5 5% +rech set bonuses (3-4 Doctored Wounds, 1-2 Obliteration, 0-1 Crushing Impact) and 4 LotG 7.5% +rech, which gets you a nice, clean 55% +rech global. The math I did assumed 95% +rech in both Hasten and Dull Pain, but 3 level 50 common IOs give you 99.08% +rech from enhancement and 5 piece Doctored Wounds (all but Heal/End) would give you 97.5%, so the requirements are actually a little bit less under those conditions.

 

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Hm, it would appear Umbral soloed the thread. Haven't been out of touch for awhile, I'm curious, what kind of antics did you get up to with your fire/reg Umbral? Or anyone else for that matter.

Willpower has more passive regen than Regen does. Who thought that was a good idea?

Can we get a fix for Energy Melee instead of more new sets?

 

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Mine is at 44 right now. I am just getting some of the key pieces together(way to lazy). With just regular lvl 30 IOs. I have pretty much sleeped up to where I am at right now. The only real challenge I seem to have was against Atta in the one mish since I decided to ghost (badly). Also the Agent G's final mish in the 3 way fight.

I did take blaze mastery with mine cause of the reasons above, perma DP is nice.

 

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Originally Posted by Gobbledygook View Post
Hm, it would appear Umbral soloed the thread. Haven't been out of touch for awhile, I'm curious, what kind of antics did you get up to with your fire/reg Umbral? Or anyone else for that matter.
I've soloed a few AVs using my Fire/Regeneration but now he is my PvP **** and a very good one at that

Virtue: @Santorican

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Any advice for a pvp centerd build then Sant, or was it close to your PvE build?

Willpower has more passive regen than Regen does. Who thought that was a good idea?

Can we get a fix for Energy Melee instead of more new sets?

 

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My PvE build and PvP were significantly different from each other. For PvP I'd suggest slotting for +hp and recharge and in PvE slot from +defense and + recharge.

This is my PvP build

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I lost my PvE build but I'll have to post it up once I remake it.

Virtue: @Santorican

Dark/Shield Build Thread

 

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Thanks for the help.

Willpower has more passive regen than Regen does. Who thought that was a good idea?

Can we get a fix for Energy Melee instead of more new sets?

 

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Hm, it would appear Umbral soloed the thread. Haven't been out of touch for awhile, I'm curious, what kind of antics did you get up to with your fire/reg Umbral? Or anyone else for that matter.
I don't have a Fire/Regen toon, but I've got a Fire/Regen build that people have done quite well with. It's not perma-DP because I wasn't going gangbusters for +rech since it's substantially harder to get without purple IOs unless you're willing to set mule (which I am loathe to). It does, however, manage 35.8% +def(melee) and the Incin>Scorch>Cremate>Scorch attack string for potent ST damage.

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Level 50 Natural Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Secondary Power Set: Regeneration
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Scorch -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(3), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(3), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), T'Death-Dam%(7)
Level 1: Fast Healing -- Heal-I(A)
Level 2: Cremate -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(7), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(9), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), T'Death-Dam%(11)
Level 4: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(13), EndMod-I(13)
Level 6: Reconstruction -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(15), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Dct'dW-Heal(17), Dct'dW-Rchg(17)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(50), Winter-ResSlow(50)
Level 10: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(19), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Dct'dW-Heal(21), Dct'dW-Rchg(21)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(23), RechRdx-I(23)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(48)
Level 16: Integration -- RgnTis-Regen+(A), Numna-Heal(25), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(25), Heal-I(27)
Level 18: Fire Sword Circle -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(27), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(29), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Oblit-%Dam(31)
Level 20: Build Up -- AdjTgt-Rchg(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(31)
Level 22: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(33), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 26: Incinerate -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(33), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(34), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), T'Death-Dam%(36)
Level 28: Instant Healing -- Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(36), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Dct'dW-Heal(37), Dct'dW-Rchg(37)
Level 30: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(37), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 32: Greater Fire Sword -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(39), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(39), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), T'Death-Dam%(42)
Level 35: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(40), LkGmblr-Def(42)
Level 38: Moment of Glory -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(42), RechRdx-I(43), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 41: Focused Accuracy -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(43), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(45), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(45), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(45), GSFC-Build%(46)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(46), P'Shift-End%(46), P'Shift-EndMod(48), EndMod-I(50)
Level 47: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(48)
Level 49: Resilience -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run

 

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Interesting. I gotta tell ya, going without stamina seems slightly counter intuitive, but I just may do it. It seems IO bonuses and physical perfection make up for the lack of stamina and health almost completely.

And you say folks have had good results with this? Very interesting, indeed.

Willpower has more passive regen than Regen does. Who thought that was a good idea?

Can we get a fix for Energy Melee instead of more new sets?

 

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Interesting. I gotta tell ya, going without stamina seems slightly counter intuitive, but I just may do it. It seems IO bonuses and physical perfection make up for the lack of stamina and health almost completely.

And you say folks have had good results with this? Very interesting, indeed.
I haven't played this build, but I'll say that it looks fine to me. Defense is good. It has Tough and Resilience for a little resistance. Endurance recovery looks like 4.56 EPS. With toggles taking only 1.47 EPS, and a normal chain taking 2.5 to 3 EPS or so, and Moment of Glory recovering endurance, it likely has sustainable endurance. Regeneration is actually fairly decent, though that's almost the least of your worries on a Regen. Recharge is good given the budget. Focused Accuracy will let you fight uplevel. It can run the chain Umbral mentioned to conserve endurance, or the more potent Incinerate -> Greater Fire Sword -> Cremate -> Scorch chain while Hasten is up, which isn't very far from the top DPS chain. And Umbral, granted, it isn't perma Dull Pain, but I'm calculating a maximum down time of 0.23 seconds. I think we can round that down to 0 and count it.

Nothing flashy about it. It makes due without purples or PvP IOs. There are probably better builds out there for any specific purpose. But this one, it looks like a classic. It hits all the bases. It does everything. Saved for reference.

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Yeah, I think once I hit 42 I am gonna respec over, wanna make sure the IO's will cover end. This really is a good lookin build. I'll let you know how it handles things, like AV's and Pylons and the like.

Willpower has more passive regen than Regen does. Who thought that was a good idea?

Can we get a fix for Energy Melee instead of more new sets?

 

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Originally Posted by Werner View Post
Nothing flashy about it. It makes due without purples or PvP IOs. There are probably better builds out there for any specific purpose. But this one, it looks like a classic. It hits all the bases. It does everything. Saved for reference.
I think that's probably one of the biggest votes of confidence I've gotten concerning one of my builds in a good, long while.

 

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I'm going to take some ideas from that build (even though it's already pretty close to what I do with Regen) and use it for my Fire/Regen (currently 39)

Major difference I'm planning on: I'm taking Stamina, as I am planning on taking Blaze Mastery for concept and the ability to get another 20% recharge out of sets I would be unable to slot without the 3 powers I'm taking from the pool.

Solid build there Umbral.

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See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.