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MoG is great slotted as follows: 3 Def, 1 Res

Au-revoir mon ami!

( from the guy who's French c'est tres pants )

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Excuses, Excuses I would have been happy to play on the outdoor map but you lost a player at start up.

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u attacked them b4 1 loaded when they had said "wait, waiting on 1" on broadcast, but u ran in and killed 1

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I did offer a free point...

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wooo! bagsie the free life. Thanks bigboy, so kind!

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ok i need a smart calculation here.

With 3 accs in headsplitter and 3tohitt buffs in tactics, what are my chances of hitting an eluded scrapper with and without empathy buffs..?

also, how do my chances go up using build up? ( +50% acc buff? )

enjoy maths dudes!

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ok i need a smart calculation here.

With 3 accs in headsplitter and 3tohitt buffs in tactics, what are my chances of hitting an eluded scrapper with and without empathy buffs..?

also, how do my chances go up using build up? ( +50% acc buff? )

enjoy maths dudes!

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this quote is from andy in the scrapper section i have myself spent time getting my head around the whole thing using this site.
Arcanavilles Defence guide

If you ended up with a figure near my figure i'll be well impressed with myself but i am not that confident and you know i hate maths but i wondered what you would make of it and have no doubt you would be quicker and more accurate with it.

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There isn't enough information in that request, but assuming every power including the Elude is 3 slotted with even level SOs.

Elude Defence = 45% * 1.56 = 70.2%
Head Splitter Accuracy = 100% * 1.9493 = 194.93%
Tactics ToHit Buff = 10% * 1.56 = 15.6%

Chance of hitting in PvP:

MinMax(MinMax(50% + 15.6% - 70.2%) * 194.93%) = 9.75%

with a 50% accuracy buff:

MinMax(MinMax(50% + 15.6% - 70.2%) * 194.93% * 150%) = 14.62%

Simply to your base accuracy, add all your tohit buffs, take away your targets defence, then min/max it between 5% and 95%. Then multiply by the powers accuracy (normally 100%), then 1+enhancements, and then each 1+accuracy buffs you might have in turn. Finally min/max the whole lot again.

p.s. Arcanaville is clever, but she is also a tadge verbose.

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i asked dr rock he is close to what i had but better at doin it than me thats why i asked him in case i messed up!

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woot, ty

explains why i was missing the eluded sr scrappers in my two pvp matches

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Right, this is too all these people:

@Bigboy3387
@Knight Stalker
@Rooks
@Gatling
and @Seriphimus

Our match will commence at 7.30 PM on Sunday, you have all confirmed this, apart from Rooks, who hasn't replied yet, if anyone could contact him, that would be great.

Ninja Edit - Rooks now confirmed!
Cya Sunday at 7.30 in Galaxy guys.



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i missed the match, but who won and what was the results? i'm thinking the not heavy blaster team won?

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youwould be correct especially as it was the caves map!

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what was the result?

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5-A lot

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Right, this is too all these people:

@Bigboy3387
@Knight Stalker
@Rooks
@Gatling
and @Seriphimus

Our match will commence at 7.30 PM on Sunday, you have all confirmed this, apart from Rooks, who hasn't replied yet, if anyone could contact him, that would be great.

Ninja Edit - Rooks now confirmed!
Cya Sunday at 7.30 in Galaxy guys.



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i missed the match, but who won and what was the results? i'm thinking the not heavy blaster team won?

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youwould be correct especially as it was the caves map!

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[...] 1) Rage does not stack [...]

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Since when?

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the dawn of time...

rage overlaps, but the effects do NOT stack. And you still end up with the 10 second downtime.

ok i need a smart calculation here.

With 3 accs in headsplitter and 3tohitt buffs in tactics, what are my chances of hitting an eluded scrapper with and without empathy buffs..?

also, how do my chances go up using build up? ( +50% acc buff? )

enjoy maths dudes!

well played the opposition in tonights fight! You guys just seemed upwardly more mobile than we did, and without our lovely epics we couldn't slow you down !

Could have done with taunt to help poor kaya who was picked on from the off!

Anyway, good tactics and well played!

great point well raised mate.

i for one will be steaming drunk otherwise.

meh, i may even play better lol

Woooo! love the draw

Some true points there Shannon, but i dont think it is necessary to live 24/7 in granite. Only against the nastiest foes should it be used imo. On my brute i find the RA/SS combo more than effective. Only use Granite as a panick button/pre AV fight.

Also, prob on my build, taunt needs acc in it! So 2 acc 2 rch.

I said taunt, mudpots AND foot stomp all taunt slotted is slight overkill because it is just not needed as the taunt/punchvoke combo should hold almost anyones attention.

oh and from i7 taunt needs Acc. As a PvE only tank i would recommend slotting a minimum of 2Acc 1rch 1 taunt if you fancy perma holding Av aggro.

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If you want PvP, either don't roll an inv tank (they aren't all that good at it) or, better yet, go ask someone who doesn't think PvP is a badly thought-out, pointless, bolt-on, ego-stroking, lamer-justifying, griefing device.

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1) Invul tanks ARE great in pvp. Unyeilding gives them a huge advantage over fire etc. In fact they are one of the best pvp tanks period.
2) badly thought out - Eh? It was a huge undertaking to introduce pvp into a pve only game. PvP in coh is very much rock paper scissors, as it should be, so all in all they have done very well cosidering. PvP in CoH is better than almost any other mmorpg.
3) Pointless - Having fun with friends, organising and working on builds together, coming up with build concepts and tactics, and regularly playing against other very competant players as well as giving advice to new comers. Oh and the French recieved ipods for their participation in the pvp competition, hardly pointless.
4)bolt-on- yep, i4 i believe. As i7 would be considered the latest 'bolt-on'.
5)ego-stroking- Well i admit, some players really are big-headed about it all, and this is sad. However defeating a quality team is enjoyable, as is beating any challenging thing in day to day life.
6)lamer justifying- Yup a few of these too, but they reside in pve teams too ( hollows pick up teams anyone? )
7)Griefing device- Anyone feeling particularly griefed can leave what they are doing.

I normally wouldn't reply to this, but it was such a pointless statement you made, i felt the need to. In future may i recommend you just put,'this is a PvE build only' into your guide?

Everyone is entitled to opinion, and personally i find pvp one of the truly remaining challenges in this game, however you wont find me saying,'oh pve is just soo repetative, it must be only enjoyed by suxorz lamers..' on forum where everybody will read about it.

oops i just did...

here is a NOT perfect pve/pvp build granite tank. The SS is there for non-granite fighting, ie, a lot of the time. The swift/tp for the other times..

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.5.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: KS is a Nimmer
Level: 50
Archetype: Tanker
Primary: Stone Armor
Secondary: Super Strength
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01) --> Rock Armor==> DefBuf(1)DefBuf(3)DefBuf(3)
01) --> Jab==> Acc(1)
02) --> Earth's Embrace==> Heal(2)Heal(19)Heal(31)Rechg(31)Rechg(34)Rechg(34)
04) --> Stone Skin==> DmgRes(4)DmgRes(5)DmgRes(5)
06) --> Taunt==> Rechg(6)Rechg(7)Rechg(7)
08) --> Teleport Foe==> Acc(8)Acc(9)Range(9)Range(39)
10) --> Rooted==> Heal(10)Heal(11)Heal(11)Rechg(40)
12) --> Haymaker==> Acc(12)Acc(13)Dmg(13)Dmg(15)Dmg(21)Rechg(39)
14) --> Teleport==> Range(14)Range(15)EndRdx(46)
16) --> Swift==> Run(16)Run(17)Run(17)
18) --> Hasten==> Rechg(18)Rechg(19)Rechg(21)
20) --> Health==> Heal(20)
22) --> Knockout Blow==> Acc(22)Acc(23)Dmg(23)Dmg(27)Dmg(33)Rechg(37)
24) --> Stamina==> EndMod(24)EndMod(25)EndMod(25)
26) --> Provoke==> Acc(26)Acc(27)Rechg(40)
28) --> Rage==> Rechg(28)TH_Buf(29)TH_Buf(29)TH_Buf(31)
30) --> Intimidate==> Acc(30)Acc(34)Fear(36)Fear(36)Rechg(37)Rechg(37)
32) --> Granite Armor==> DmgRes(32)DmgRes(33)DmgRes(33)DefBuf(40)DefBuf(46)DefBuf(46)
35) --> Mud Pots==> EndRdx(35)EndRdx(36)Slow(45)Slow(45)EndRdx(48)
38) --> Hurl==> Acc(38)Acc(39)Range(43)Range(43)
41) --> Char==> Acc(41)Acc(42)Rechg(42)Rechg(42)Hold(43)
44) --> Hand Clap==> Acc(44)Acc(45)Rechg(48)
47) --> Super Speed==> Run(47)Run(48)
49) --> Fire Blast==> Acc(49)Acc(50)Dmg(50)Dmg(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Gauntlet==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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I am not too good at stone/ss but... don't respec into it, right away!

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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Tanker
Primary: Stone Armor
Secondary: Super Strength
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01) --> Stone Skin==> DmgRes(1) DmgRes(3) DmgRes(3)
01) --> Jab==> Dmg(1) Dmg(46) Dmg(48)
02) --> Earth's Embrace==> Rechg(2) Rechg(5) Rechg(5) Heal(9) Heal(11) Heal(50)
04) --> Haymaker==> Dmg(4) Dmg(7) Dmg(7) Acc(9)
06) --> Mud Pots==> Dmg(6) Taunt(11) Taunt(13) Taunt(19) EndRdx(21)
08) --> Rooted==> Heal(8) Heal(13) Heal(15) EndRdx(19)
10) --> Taunt==> Rechg(10) Taunt(15) Taunt(17) Taunt(17)
12) --> Teleport Foe==> Acc(12)
14) --> Teleport==> Range(14) Range(21) Range(23) EndRdx(23)
16) --> Swift==> Run(16) Run(25) Run(25)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18) Heal(27) Heal(27)
20) --> Knockout Blow==> Dmg(20) Dmg(29) Dmg(29) Acc(31) Acc(31)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22) EndModdeh(31) EndMod(33)
24) --> Hasten==> Rechg(24) Rechg(33) Rechg(33)
26) --> Aid Other==> Heal(26) Heal(34) Heal(34) Rechg(34)
28) --> Rage==> Rechg(28) Rechg(36) Rechg(36) TH_Buf(36)
30) --> Aid Self==> Heal(30) Heal(37) Heal(37) Rechg(37)
32) --> Granite Armor==> DefBuf(32) DefBuf(39) DefBuf(39) DmgRes(39) DmgRes(40) DmgRes(40)
35) --> Hurl==> Dmg(35) Dmg(40) Dmg(42) Acc(42)
38) --> Foot Stomp==> Dmg(38) Dmg(42) Dmg(43) Taunt(43) Taunt(43) Acc(50)
41) --> Stone Prison==> EndRdx(41) Immob(46) Immob(46)
44) --> Fossilize==> EndRdx(44) Hold(45) Hold(45) Hold(45)
47) --> Stalagmites==> Rechg(47) Rechg(48) Rechg(48) DisDur(50)
49) --> Super Speed==> EndRdx(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Gauntlet==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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A few points..
1) Rage does not stack and therefore does not need 3 rchred in it.
2) Put three two hit buffs instead in rage.
3) Mud pots could do with three 3 end red in it.
4) Rage ( even 3 slotted with TH buffs ) and only one Acc engh in your powers is going to make you miss a bit in PvE, and miss a LOT in PvP.
5) Hurl is your -fly. If you want to pvp with it you want it 2acc 3range minimum.
6) Foot stomp and mudpot and taunt - bit of overkill
7) PvP only - Hand clap is a great squishy stunner.
8) Not too sure on the medicine pool given youve taken granite. You already have a dull pain in EE.

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I have a question, what does this mean......... DmgRes(1) DmgRes(3) DmgRes(3).......What does the the numbers mean?..And what do you mean with ingnore levelling?

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DmgRes refers to thye type of enhancement placed in the slot, in this case damage resistance. The numbers are what level you chose to place the slot in the power.

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As i said when i joined up i work till 8 pm sorry i wont be there till 8.30

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Well may i suggest that we dont all go in at once this week? Due to the fact there is only one round being played, could we spread the matches out a little? It would give any late comers a little time to show, and the rest of us a chance to watch the others play. There are a lot of matches i really want to see here

Team 11 vs Team 2 woot!

Al and shaman and irradiator, i hereby formally request you pick on KS!!

I want to see him shrouded in lovely green rad, slowed with LR, then Al to start on him with his kin. Sha follow up with some lovely En loving

On another note: putting unions' two best blasters on one team is just plain wrong!

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great 3 HIGH damage dealers v a scrapper, a troller and a blastfender, not impressed with this draw

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my money is actually on ur team, some very very tough matches there particularly 1v4, shud b some awesome matches

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Team 1:Claws/SR
Empathy/psi ( i think )
Spines/regen

Team 4:Katana/SR
Kin/psi
Broadsword/regen

Wooo. This goes for the most balanced team fight ever! Plus youve got some lovely comparisons to make here. claws vs katana, emp vs kin, and of course BS vs spines ( spines is for nimmers remember )

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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Scrapper
Primary: Broad Sword
Secondary: Regeneration
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01) --> Hack==> Acc(1)Acc(3)Acc(3)Dmg(11)Dmg(11)Dmg(15)
01) --> Fast Healing==> Heal(1)Heal(15)
02) --> Reconstruction==> Rechg(2)Rechg(33)Rechg(40)Heal(42)Heal(43)Heal(50)
04) --> Quick Recovery==> EndMod(4)EndMod(5)EndMod(5)
06) --> Build Up==> Rechg(6)Rechg(7)Rechg(7)
08) --> Hasten==> Rechg(8)Rechg(9)Rechg(9)
10) --> Hurdle==> Jump(10)Jump(23)Jump(25)
12) --> Dull Pain==> Rechg(12)Heal(13)Rechg(13)Rechg(17)Heal(17)Heal(21)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14)Run(50)
16) --> Integration==> Slow(16)Heal(19)Heal(19)Rechg(23)
18) --> Swift==> Run(18)Run(40)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)
22) --> Slice==> Acc(22)Acc(42)Acc(43)Dmg(43)Dmg(46)Dmg(46)
24) --> Assault==> EndRdx(24)EndRdx(25)
26) --> Disembowel==> Acc(26)Acc(27)Acc(27)Dmg(31)Dmg(31)Dmg(31)
28) --> Instant Healing==> Rechg(28)Rechg(29)Rechg(29)
30) --> Tactics==> TH_Buf(30)TH_Buf(33)TH_Buf(33)EndRdx(37)
32) --> Head Splitter==> Acc(32)Acc(34)Acc(34)Dmg(34)Dmg(36)Dmg(37)
35) --> Teleport Foe==> Acc(35)Acc(36)Range(36)Range(37)Range(39)IntRdx(50)
38) --> Moment Of Glory==> DefBuf(38)DefBuf(39)DefBuf(39)DmgRes(40)
41) --> Web Grenade==> Acc(41)Acc(42)Range(45)Range(46)Range(48)
44) --> Caltrops==> Empty(44)Slow(45)Slow(45)Range(48)Range(48)
47) --> Resilience==> DmgRes(47)
49) --> Teleport==> Range(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> Jump(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Critical Hit==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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OK, heres my take

First off, MOG is NOT useless in pvp.

Yes it does drop your HP if you have loads of health remaining. However, facing Blue Freezer the other day highlighted the following fact: Use it when your about dead. If dull pain is still running, it will actually heal you into the orange, and having a huge def/res bonus when that happens turns you from deffo dead, to less deffo dead

Also mog is great vs Kin, great vs Hurricane, and great vs bubblers.

Second point. I haven't taken FA and i never ( well the 5% thing ) miss in PvP, as all my attacks are 3acc slotted and i run tactics. I dont need conserve power ( regen ), and the other two powers are just add ons. Who cares about seeing stalkers? As a scrapper in the arena your only target should be the squishies, unless youve killed them all on a large map, and have spare time to beat on a brute/tank/scrapper.
Both the darkness mastery and weapons mastery have their very useful advantages in pvp. Darkness can hold/immob a squishy for long enough for you to kill them, and weopons has -fly -rch and a slow.

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gratz guys.. about time too.. - we been saying this for ages, "why dont they merge, silly them" - now ya have.. so good

Not only can we do mass SG battles with you but also raids now too..

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sprint>hurdle>Super speed>Swift>Super Jump>Combat Jumping>syphon speed>speed boost>Inertial reduction>Teleport>Fly...

Best leg it guys!

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tbh i finding my first macth to be unblaced coz there is one controler earth/ff, 2nd strom/elec defender 3rd spines/regen aginst us which are corrptor,blaster and me. but still i will fight but we all know what the results will come out.

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i'm guessing thats why u have 3 lives, so it evens out as the teams change each fight

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what AT is the corruptor? With the right tactics ( which is what this event focusses on ) you stand a very good chance. Just need to play the *pick on the defender* game...

wooo pretty colours KS...

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If anyone wants to ask any questions please contact me...

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OK, when did you vacate the nimmer closet?