Scythus

Originally Posted by Premonitions

I think a Scyther poorly disguising himself as a human hero would know about Pokemon after all

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

What have worms got to do with this?

Originally Posted by Delrune

So... let me get this right... you take offense to this badge, because in its original form Hamlet doesn't actually have a drowning scene, instead Ophelia's drowning is mentioned only via a monologue.

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

The Praetorian Hamidon Trial should be quite interesting then

Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect

Isn't that the Jade Spider from one of the Ouroboros TFs?

Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg

Aren't you going to call him a goose-stepping stiff-arm?

Originally Posted by Ironik

It does. Scythus is wrong. Bad week for him, apparently, but we all have those.

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

Are moustaches so vital to the steampunk look?

Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel

Awesome... I also Like Steelclaw's Da Vinci Versus Raphael world.

Originally Posted by ThePill

I dig the gimmick of the Family boss guy.

Originally Posted by Local_Man

Did you even read the book? The Bugs attacked first. That's survival, not racism.

and besides, it is actually species-ism, not racism. Yeah, your little link talks about "hiding" racism as speciesism. Sorry, but I don't agree when you're talking about survival. To call the book Starship Troopers racist is ignorant considering the many different human race groups of the good guys. Even more so if you have read Heinlein's other works. Aliens could be good guys or bad guys. Humans were just as often the bad guys.

Originally Posted by starphoenix

Fascist, authoritarian drivel.

Originally Posted by starphoenix

As far as your claim about the government exists to serve the people not itself, the more people involved in voting, the less power one individual can have. If people cared about how their government is run, then they could earn the right to vote provided that there is no repugnant restrictions like race, gender, or preference. I find self-entitlement to be far more repugnant than earning the right to vote. If people got more involved in the government and don't let someone else to do it, then votes would have more meaning.

Oh and IBTL or IBTD.

Originally Posted by Ironik

How can you possibly use that as evidence that ST is fascist? I mean come on, the MAIN CHARACTER is Filipino and his love interest is Hispanic and his best friend is, too, while the two major mouthpiece/authority figures are a French-American and a Chinese dude.

Originally Posted by Ironik

Still not fascism.

Go look for yourself: www.dictionary.com

Originally Posted by starphoenix

Going to have to explain how Fascism equals only allowing people that serve their country to vote. Switzerland has compulsory military service and no one would consider it to be a fascist country. Most healthy males have about 1 year to vote before they have to serve their country. Since the voting age is 18 and the drafting age starts at 19. Therefore, most male Switzerland citizens have served their country before doing much voting. At least Starship Troopers allows people to choose if they want to serve or vote.

Also, the article doesn't mention anything about fascism. It just talks about the controversy of voting being earned not freely given. I have to agree with votes being earned since voting should require people to care for their country and military service is an effective way to prove that a person care more for their country than themselves.

Originally Posted by Ironik

Yes. He's wrong. Clearly he needs a dictionary, because his definition of fascism bears no relation to reality.

He also makes specious side comments like "uniforms are not commonly worn by general government workers." Well, no, not in OUR world, but Heinlein's writing science fiction. It's no different from many other sci-fi tales from Star Trek to, well, name a random dozen. Plus, most jobs may not have uniforms the way soldiers, police, firefighters, EMS, park rangers, doctors, nurses, priests, nuns, restaurants, animal shelters, cable companies, yard maintenance companies... oh yeah, almost every job requires a uniform, and those who don't expressly define "acceptable dress." It's actually rare to find a job that doesn't have some sort of required outfit. Look at IBM when Heinlein was writing, for example.

But clothes don't make the political ideology. He makes a whole host of other selective and incorrect assumptions, sometimes even ignoring human behavior altogether.

One can disagree with Heinlein's idea if you want, that's fine. I disagree with his proposal myself. What you can't do is call it something it isn't. It's not fascism or socialism or communism, it's merely a form of representative democracy that differs from the American version in one important particular: you only get to participate in the franchise if you serve for at least two years, and everyone can serve if they want to.

Since Heinlein was on record for being anti-draft, saying something to the effect that a country whose citizens can't be bothered to volunteer to defend it doesn't deserve to exist, you can see how he got to the society he created in Starship Troopers. Heinlein was wrong about a whole host of things in his life, but if you're going to disagree with this particular version of wrongness, then call it the right thing. It's not fascism.

Originally Posted by Ironik

Anyone who thinks Starship Troopers is fascist doesn't own a dictionary. Or was awake during history class.

Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill

*cough*

Er... link. For satire, someone has to be aware of the original source. It has to have some relation besides, oh, names. (See Star Wars to Spaceballs, Shaun of the Dead to - well, most zombie movies.)