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Quote:Ms. Liberty has already wiped out her family through manipulating her fall guy Darrin Wade, along with bringing about the death of the only psychic with enough experience to read her mind - BAB would be well advised to keep out of her way as she tightens her grip on the city, especially now that her plan to revive Red Widow as a distraction for Recluse and Arachnos has allowed her to withdraw several Longbow units from the Rogue Isles and redeploy them on the Paragon streets.Quote:??????? Wait...!!!!! Golden Girl... has been REPLACED by an AUTOMATON!
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Quote:HA! Isn't it the truth!if you want harder, create a free character (no vet powers) and do some old vahz missions at level 4.
Not so much the truth. I'd like experience this "overly hard" Praetoria everyone keeps talking about rather than this "not so hard" Praetoria I keep winding up in, just to see what it's like. Do I need to pay extra for it, or do I merely need to raise the difficulty above my comfort zone with a notoriety contact? -
Indeed, but maybe he means the Task Forces? I've done the first three on one character.
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Yeah, no such thing was ever planned.
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Funny, I seem to recall accounts of basic 50s being invited into Apex/Tin Mage teams but being subjected to the -4 level debuff.
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Yeah, that was a bug... on Beta, no less. It doesn't work like that anymore.
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Softest requirement I've ever seen.
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Quote:Wrong.That's not quite correct - because of the Alpha slot requirement, the Apex and Tin Mage Incarnate TF could quite easily end up being played after DA and the non-Alpha required Trials - Belladonna's arc, which takes palce just hours before the fall of the loyalists dictatorship, can also be played before the loyalists even invade Primal Earth.
Apex and Tin Mage can be played without the Alpha unlocked; you're just debuffed 4 levels without it (or unslotted). Dark Astoria and Belladonna Vetrano both require the Alpha unlocked to appear on your contacts list.
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Quote:Ah, there we go. But here's the problem with that assessment... Incarnates are post-50 content, so they happen AFTER you've done everything else. So, they still strictly follow the leveling timeline, as is displayed in the continuation of storylines from basic content in Dark Astoria.The 1-50 timeline mostly follows a level = time passong system - the SSAs follow their own version of levels = time, but it's detatched from the 1-50 system - and the Incarnate storyline follows its own timeline, with the progress of time being measured more by content updates than level shifts.
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Amusing, since that was specifically what the SSAs were supposed to be. I highly doubt this assessment, as you should notice the SSAs specifically saw the removal of Statesman and Sister Psyche from the game, whereas the iTrials have done no such thing concerning Emperor Cole and the Praetors.
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Except when someone starts a new character, then the Praetorian threat is fresh all over again.
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Quote:Except the STF wasn't about removing Recluse from power, it was about stopping his plot to empower himself through the Web. And Dark Astoria acknowledged that Reichsman had his *** kicked in the KTF/BSF and that he could barely hold a candle to your character in terms of power now. Oh, and the Praetorian zones under Tyrant's rule are still in the game.That's the way MMOs work
Meta-story-wise, the loyalists are finished - all new Incarnate content will be built on that as one of the basic truths of the meta-story - just like Statesman is now dead, even if players never play "Who Will Die".
That's one of the many things that's so awesome about Praetoria - they've created a huge story arc that actually has a permanent resolution - it's not like defeating Recluse and the patrons on the STF, but he's still in power and shows up with the patrons again in newer content, or defeating Reichsman in the KTF and he pops up again afterwards in DA - this defeat of the loyalist menace is final - the dictatorship is destroyed, and the AVs are either dead or captured - it's just awesome. -
Quote:Except when someone starts a new character and then it happens all over again.I'm not quite sure what you're getting at with those - you seem to have given 3 examples that were dealt with by heroes and are no longer a problem - that's the way the game works.
Like Roy Cooling's arc, where we take down some rogue PPD, or the various Tip missions where we arrest vigilantes - whenever we learn about criminal activity by people in positions of power, we deal with it - which is what's been happening in the Praetorian war - the loyalists have now been dealt with, and can't harm the people anymore. -
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As Issen said, define where the Moral Event Horizon is. As far as I can tell, Scirocco at the very least has not crossed it. Cole is possibly arguable.
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Quote:Indeed, but I avoided that as it came out at the same time as the MoM trial.Do I need to mention First Ward? Where Scott's first reaction to the Liberated Ghouls refusing to join the Resistance was to have them all mercilessly slaughtered because they were a possible "liability."
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Quote:Yeah, actually, no, there weren't. One of the most mishandled Tweeests ever.Quote:
When Aurora volunteered to host Praetor Tilman's consciousness, Scott didn't believe it. His wife wouldn't have done such a thing without at least talking to him first. He questioned the Praetor about his wife's decision, but those questions were ignored by both Praetor Tilman and Emperor Cole. Shortly after he questioned the Emperor, Calvin found himself admitted to the Mother of Mercy Psychiatric Hospital by the Emperor's decree and placed under Tilman's personal care. Tormented by the demon wearing his wife's body, something inside Calvin—a sensation he had never really felt before—rose to the surface: a pure, burning rage.
A chance attack by Resistance forces led to Calvin's unexpected escape from the facility. He joined up with the rebels and fled with them into the tunnels beneath Imperial City. Most of the others that had escaped were shells of their former selves. They were men and women who no longer remembered their families, loved ones, or even their names. All that was left inside these former patients' thoughts were memories of their time in the Psychiatric Hospital, each one more horrible than the last. It was in the company of these half-starved, desperate fugitives that Calvin Scott found his calling.Quote:Briefing
Character. Good to hear from you. What's your current situation? You're working with Cleopatra, right?
Right. There's a bombing plot happening at the hospital
Yes, I'm aware of that. Double Barrel is working with some of the Syndicate to set it up. You may think it's extreme, but sometimes these things have to be done to move progress forward against Cole's regime.
Are you out of your mind? Blowing up a hospital is progress?
Out of my mind? No, I'm not out of my mind, Pharaoan Guard, I'm just focused on what has to be done.
The people need to see that Cole is fallible, that Cole is just a man. A blow to the hospital would show that Cole can't protect the people from everything. But, not today. What's more important is keeping your cover, and your cover involves saving that hospital.
We need you deep in the Loyalists, Pharaoan Guard, and sometimes that means making sacrifices. When you take down Double Barrel, make sure to plant some tracking bugs on him - that way we can see where they take him and bust him out later on.
Alright, Scott.Quote:Washington is probably going to kill her. He's a cunning man, he knows that Marauder will do anything he can to prove her 'innocence'. Even so, it means that everything she does will be looked at with a suspicious eye.
Help Washington and kill Cleopatra.
What? She's one of us, Scott!
She is. That is why she will understand why this has to happen.
She was weak and paranoid, Character. Cleopatra let her guard down when she gave you those bugs and endangered all of us by making that decision to kill you.
She made her choice, and we've made ours. We can't allow her to go on.
Kill her, and take her place as our agent seeded deep within the Loyalists. Make sure to not make the same mistake that she did, Character. This isn't a game - I'll do whatever it takes to bring Cole down and get my wife back, even if it means having to deal with those who become weak in the face of our goal.