Scrapapo

I'll be on test...

I personally don't see what anyone sees in vertical travel, it's not neccessary so don't bother, especially not for Spines. Yes, slot Quills for some End reduction, it's quite heavy if I remember right.

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I'm sure you'll see how Dark benefits our duo more than body mastery

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The subject is the OP not your Duo...

Good post, my build preforms exceptionally in both PvP and PvE, I beat pure PvP builds with it quite often.

For all around goodness I'd probably go with Ill/Kin.

1v1 wise that is.

You know that's still only some things, whereas Energy Torrent is still all things.

Edit- Ugh can't believe I forgot to mention I run Focused Acc ontop of Tough and Integration.

A power taken for one use only or a power which will increase your effectiveness against every mob in the game isn't that a no brainer?

You asked for it...

Pff Spines doesn't need anything more than Hurdle.

Jump in
Spine Burst
Jump out
Throw Spines
Energy Torrent
Jump in
Ripper

Repeat, using Impale once and a while.

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Yeah, you saw straight through our tactics. With Infi in the middle of us beating me in the face we fell apart.

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Yeup...

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but I run quills, sprint, integration and SJ

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But there's no point in having Sprint and SJ on while you're fighting, only herding. So you herd, then turn 'em off, then attack. I run Tough and Integration, and have Energy Torrent on top of my other AoEs (Energy Torrent has quite a high end cost) and don't have much trouble at all, with no end reduction in attacks.

Well, remember you can't herd more than 17 things at once anymore... which isn't exactly hard to herd without Quills, and on medium to large teams there wont be any point herding.

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Heavyweight (max lvl is 50, matches at 46.

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Heh I was thinking about reccomending him to you lot but decided against it too.

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i think as far as trollers go grav/storm wud trump them all

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I beat Lady White with my amazing all powerful Illusion/Empathy Controller!

Not really, although it's been a few months now since I've stepped into a mission with Chives I don't recall there being any serious problems. It's not the endless pool of endurance most Regens claim they have, though.

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That, for PvE of course, PvP I'll leave to Chives

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1 Acc 3 Dam and 2 Recharge is the best slotting for both PvP and PvE... (With Focused Accuracy)

Oh and if those are just 'spare powers' I reccomend going into Body further to get Energy Torrent, I feel it gives what Spines needs nowadays to really shine AoE wise, doesn't shine enough without it in my opinion.

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After last night's dispaly m8 ill make sure u get an invite

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It's public, I'm pretty sure I didn't get an invite - just joined it.

Slot attacks with 1 acc 3 dam and 2 recharge you silly sausage.

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No Quills? But what use is the AoE damage if you can't herd?

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The tough guys herd with Throw Spines!

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Exported from Ver: 1.6.8.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Chives
Level: 50
Archetype: Scrapper
Primary: Spines
Secondary: Regeneration
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01) --> Lunge==> Acc(1)
01) --> Fast Healing==> Heal(1)Heal(13)Heal(46)
02) --> Spine Burst==> Acc(2)Dmg(3)Dmg(3)Dmg(5)Rechg(21)Rechg(21)
04) --> Quick Recovery==> EndRec(4)EndRec(5)EndRec(23)
06) --> Reconstruction==> Rechg(6)Rechg(7)Rechg(7)Heal(15)Heal(23)Heal(31)
08) --> Impale==> Acc(8)Dmg(9)Dmg(9)Dmg(15)Rechg(31)Rechg(31)
10) --> Build Up==> Rechg(10)Rechg(11)Rechg(11)
12) --> Hasten==> Rechg(12)Rechg(13)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14)
16) --> Integration==> Heal(16)Heal(17)Heal(17)EndRdx(37)
18) --> Dull Pain==> Rechg(18)Rechg(19)Rechg(19)Heal(34)Heal(37)Heal(37)
20) --> Hurdle==> Jump(20)
22) --> Health==> Heal(22)
24) --> Stamina==> EndRec(24)EndRec(25)EndRec(25)
26) --> Ripper==> Acc(26)Dmg(27)Dmg(27)Dmg(39)Rechg(40)Rechg(40)
28) --> Instant Healing==> Heal(28)Heal(29)Heal(29)Rechg(40)Rechg(43)Rechg(50)
30) --> Kick==> Acc(30)
32) --> Throw Spines==> Acc(32)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)Rechg(34)Rechg(34)
35) --> Tough==> DmgRes(35)DmgRes(36)DmgRes(36)EndRdx(36)
38) --> Moment Of Glory==> DmgRes(38)DefBuf(39)DefBuf(39)
41) --> Focused Accuracy==> EndRdx(41)EndRdx(42)EndRdx(42)TH_Buf(42)TH_Buf(43)TH_Buf(43)
44) --> Laser Beam Eyes==> Acc(44)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)Rechg(46)Rechg(46)
47) --> Energy Torrent==> Acc(47)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)Rechg(50)Rechg(50)
49) --> Resilience==> DmgRes(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Critical Hit==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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That is my current build, there is something wrong with it thogh, I'm SURE I took Resilience before 49 but can't think where.

Nearly maximum AoE damage and range in this build, the only thing I wish I could fit in for PvE (PvP too) would be Quills, I can't fit it anywhere!

What you want to do with this basically is a combination chain of Spine Burst, Throw Spines, Energy Torrent and Ripper in PvE, Impale occasionally, it's important you slot the AoE/Cones with Recharge rather than End Reduction so that you can just keep them coming on and on.

/bind g "em laugh$$say You suck, $target."

That probably isn't right, because I don't remember how they work, but I use that one for all purposes.

I have never been neutered so badly than by Fire/Kin, speaking as a Regen Scrapper.

I'm guessing Fire/Kin would have trouble with anything that doesn't have pets or very high Defence, anything else should be easy enough.

I've never used Chives in Pentad PvP before and I've gotta say that was incredibly fun.

You guys are bouncy.

I'd slot all your attacks the same way you slotted Laser Beam Eyes, don't worry about Lunge though that's poo anyways. Otherwise - it's quite solid, Revive isn't my thing but if I posted don't get it we'd get into that old debate again...

(Revive sucks)

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We are talking about PvE right?, in PvE illusion lacks ways to get containment, they dont lack control. Because of lack of ways to get containment all the other sets carry more damage lvl 41+ if those sets take fireball.

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Yeah, PvE, and that's a damn god point, most of my time played with the old 'Troller was before Containment, so I could be a little wrong. But like I said when taking Secondaries out of consideration, I think Epic's would have to come out too - it's all about the Primary.