Santorican

Originally Posted by TwilightPhoenix

Back when I13 was first released, I would have said /SR. Defense used to be nuts because of the new elusivity mechanics. Then it got nerfed and defense is about where it used to be, so I hear (I started with I13, so I never experienced PvP before that). Either way, since defense-based toons are far less common, many people are not building to counter them as much so, with lots of defense, /SR can get some good mileage. I'd recommend SS/SJ/Aid Self/Stamina. Phase is nifty, but hardly needed and is available in so many temporary forms (Hyper Phase, Ethereal Shift, etc, pick your poison), so why bother picking up the actual power unless you're doing arena fights with temporary powers turned off? Also remember, there is no defense soft-cap in PvP. And DR will hit pretty hard. 45% defense = about 33% defense. Though you still have elusivity, but I have no clue if you can even get the real numbers on that.

Regen is pretty tough, but you either need to kite or hit hard enough to make the opponent back off to win, unless their damage just sucks. Regens can be taken out by pressure since passive regen pretty much shuts off when PvP travel suppression kicks in. I don't know if you lose everything even with IH on, but I wouldn't be surprised. So, you'll want additional resistances (such as Tough) to make up for your squishiness, as during times you're pressured constantly and can't break the enemy's constant attacks for a few seconds, you could die pretty easily without 'em. Anyone who significantly debuffs recharge and regeneration (Rad Emission and Kinetics, for example) will tear you a new one if they're any good. For a Regen, I'd say SS/SJ/Tough/Stamina, though if your endurance is good or you just take Physical Perfection, swap Stamina for Tactics so you'll have at least some perception.

And finally, Fire Melee is nice and strong, but you really need to watch out for offensive toggles if you don't pick up an APP/temporary mez. You can't shut them off. So, if a Rad or Dark drops toggles on you, for example, regardless of your secondary your day will be pretty ruined. If you want an APP mez, I'd go for Char since it's miles superior to Petrifying Gaze. That and the Dark APP kind of sucks for PvP anyway.

Originally Posted by Fulmens

The money DOES circulate. Buy something, 90% of that money goes into someone else's pocket. That person buys something, 81% of the original goes into someone else's pocket. Market fees make one influence generated into something like 12 influence spent.

Turn it into prestige and it's GONE. Boom, headshot.

Santorican got 100 million inf matched. Who else wants some, yo?

Originally Posted by Talen Lee

I think the greater issue is that all the low-mag immobs and most of the slows can afford to go away. It basically has three times the secondary effects that a set should have.

Originally Posted by zoltaire

I've been playing cov for a long time now, 50 month vet, and I'm still wondering about how the drop rate for purples, and pvp recipie's work.

I know you have to be killing lvl 50 baddies to get the purple drops, and i do, that's mostly all i kill, lvl 50+ but i don't get the same drop rate for purples as others. I do at least one ITF a week, and when i do someone on the team always gets a purple recipie, but never me. I heard someone say you get one every 12,000 kills or so, so I started counting. I got up over 15,000 without looting one, and i stopped counting there. i've probably killed more than twice as many since i stopped counting, and still nada. I have 12 lvl 50 toons, and since the invention of purples, i have looted 4, and all of those were near the begining of when they were first available. My wife, 40 month vet, has gotten 4 in the last 3 weeks. I have looted 1 pvp recipie since they came out, and again, that was near the begining of when they were available.

was just wondering if it's just me? am i doing something wrong, or have i just fallen through the cracks?

What do ya'll think?

Thanks,
Z

Originally Posted by Sunstormer

Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba

Stating that X is fine on a tank but would be broken on a scrapper seems to me to be an admission of nothing more than that those against it fear the nerf bat.

Originally Posted by Umbral

I'm working on it! Quit bugging me about it! You sound like my parents!

Originally Posted by Fulmens

Santorican: Yes. I don't know if I can do THAT kinda money again soon.

Originally Posted by Umbral

I'm hoping to tackle some of that on my end. I've been busying myself with doing a lot of analysis to try and deal with specific sets. I've already gotten a few of my changes through and, hopefully, after GoRo hits live, Castle will be able to tackle a lot of the other write-ups that I've got in the works. The problem with Super Strength is really that they would need to tweak the animation times on many of the powers to get it balanced around properly.

You'd be amazed how much players can help out the devs if they actually use analysis and precedent rather than simply blithely stating numbers with vague reasoning. I'm more than confident that we, the players, could speed up a lot of the work of proliferating sets by helping the devs address the problems that are preventing proliferation in the first place.

Originally Posted by Cyber_naut

I'd rather them create new powersets than trying to 'balance' sets that are already all in the same neighborhood ability-wise.

Originally Posted by DSorrow

And because no one else has yet said what I thought the second I saw this, I will say it.

You're asking a HUGE favor of us here. First of all, we'd need to come up with a competent PvP build for a horrible powerset combination (PvP wise, that is). This wouldn't be a problem if someone actually played a Claws/Inv in PvP and had a build ready, just waiting to be posted, but because that's not the case... Second, you want us to take it off of Mid's and make it into a spreadsheet, just for you? Nice. Want it on a silver plate, too?

You should at least listen to what other people have said on the PvP forums, give it a try and then post what you've come up with for criticism. This is the common method for everyone.

Trust me, if I had a good PvP build for Claws/Inv saved on Mid's, I'd post it here.