Rylas

Thanks for providing a more apt word for describing your posts.

You've linked that wikipedia page a lot. You are aware wikipedia isn't exactly the most reliable source, right?

Also, if you can't concede that the hyperinflation linked to doesn't take into account the economic system of the game, then it's not possible to hold a rational discussion. Unless you consider real world economic systems to be similar to the in-game one (i.e. people print the money, everyone has equal capacity to earn/sell/buy/create). Do you?

I'm really not trying to be difficult when I say, "I can't really tell if this post is agreeing with what I said or somehow trying to argue against it."

So you agree, one can easily follow prices of items, but one can't determine the level of inflation adequately since one can't determine the average of inf per transaction?

To be honest, I think making in-game market item comparisons to any real world products is a bit off. We should be comparing it to real world market stocks. Stocks go up and down, some extreme, some hardly at all. The dollar chasing those stocks experiences inflation, but basing inflation off the stocks isn't accurate, because supply and demand play too major a role. Also, stocks aren't accurate since they aren't real world necessities, but a means of investment. They don't get placed in the "basket."

No, it involves measuring prices per transaction. Not per limited selection of items, as you've been parading around in either the argument of purples, PVP's and other high-demand/low-supply items (or sets within a fraction of level range they are available in).

While it's easier to see if there's inflation (in general), the level of inflation is not determinable at player level access. Whether it be the definition of hyperinflation you're going by, or anyone else is going by.

Yes and no. Set IO to Combined IO comparisons would of course always be correct. But,if you've ED'd (yes, I made up a verb) aspects of the triple IO being used, then in the example I gave, the combo IO gives you the same boost as the two un-ED'd aspects of the triple IO. These instances would be rare though, and at high levels, the triple would provide more.

This is just splitting hairs though, so don't take that as me being argumentative.

If player level access to the market doesn't qualify anyone to claim we're near market collapse, then I don't think player level access gives anyone enough information to claim there is hyperinflation.

You can slot any 5 Crushing Impacts and hit the ED cap. All of them have a damage component. But as previously admitted, you're still capable of producing the same numbers from an added Acc/Rech/End enhancement as a Rech/End Combo.

You said:
I'm just showing how they aren't that rare, and can be impacting. Giving me options that would take up more slots shows how useful the OPs suggestion could be. It's nothing personal. Why do you think I'd be talking about a 1-slot situation?

If you'd already reached the ED cap for damage and had more than enough accuracy for the power, then throwing in Acc/End/Rech wouldn't provide as much end/rech as the IO hybrid. At the same time, if in the same example you use Dam/Rech and Dam/End set pieces to produce the effect, then you've lost a slot somewhere else. Sure, the rech and end numbers will be a little higher, but the overall gain of an extra slot has a lot more potential.

You may not consider it noticeable impact, but I imagine many would disagree.

This! Make the first target make up half the heal, and each target after that can balance out to make a ED-capped 10-foe heal the 50% it is now. Also, kill the delay between the activation and the heal.

And, since we're talking about EA, I'm going to throw in my suggestion I've made before:

Make Conserve Power a Taunt Aura and let it debuff recovery from foes while giving an End Discount % per foe in range. Maybe 3% per foe. Number gurus will probably find a more balanced number for that.

Adding DDR? Sure, but I can't see a lot more added. 60-75% probably. And yeah, not in Drain, that power is loaded up enough already. Just boost it's current DDR numbers.

It turned me into a newt!

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What?

I got better!

I agree EndMod, ToHit/To Hit Debuff, etc. really don't seem necessary. Resist, Defense, Healing (with Accurate Healing covered in the same set) would be a much welcome addition.

Farmers usually play solo. They actually produce less influence to drop ratios than teams. If you want to blame someone for too much influence for the supply we have, then blame teams.

It's true that we have little ways to "destroy" inf. As for hyperinflation, go the the thread with that title and take that argument there. But expect an earful.

If by "everything" you mean IOs, then no. IOs shouldn't be sold in stores. If you mean providing new things we can buy only from stores/vendors for the price an inf price only (no tickets/merits) then sure, I'm cool with that.

Uh, no. You want what you call "crappy" sets to be on par with rares? Why do you think they're rare? What about the people that actually slot those sets for the bonuses they give? We'll just change they're bonuses to ones they didn't want?

There's a reason rare IOs/PVP IOs are rare. Because the reward they give should require there to be some kind of level of work to obtain them. Either by farming, A-Merit farming, or by purchasing them.

I understand the concern, but I think this taking it to extremes. If what you're saying were true, that would be going on now with whats available. While I'm sure there are a lot of people copying builds, I don't think it's rampant, and I don't think it would be done anymore than it's done now. The problem with FotM mentality is that if it becomes popular enough, the expense to achieve the build goes up as the demand for those sets rises. Which leads people to then find comparable solutions for less - thus returning the diversity of builds.

Your argument also presumes everyone chasing the FotM build has the inf to do so. It also presumes that there would be only one "perfect" build for said AT/Powersets, and neglects that fact that many min/maxers have their own preferred min/max numbers for their playstyle.

For example, I have an Elec/Stone tank. Going to the forums, many people will suggest soft-capping S/L. I've only built mine to 30% and greatly increased the +HP. Which build would be better? It all depends on what you did with your tank. In all honesty, both are "perfect" for the person using them. Either way, they're still min/maxed in one way or the other.

Actually, some combos that aren't easy to come by in certain categories. Take Melee sets: none offer a End/Rech IO. For them, this feature could have a very helpful (albeit non-game-breaking) option. Melee attacks aren't that rare in my opinion.

Missed the part that mentioned the Cold Defender. In which case, you'll be doing pretty well. My Elec/Fire is IOd for 28.5% S/L/E/N defense and has 50% recharge. He usually melts away the mobs before needing a second Healing Flames. Certainly before he needs a third.

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I figured the earliest anyone would have the Ultra Rare would be tomorrow, after the 4th WST was up and running. Seeing as you need 4 Notices to make it happen.

I have a +3 Def, too, at level 10. Asking 3.25 OBO.

What? I'm not sure I've got any street cred and need to cover the Fulmens courier fee just in case.

PM me here, as my in-game schedule is sporadic.

I think you're example more clearly illustrates what I was trying to say earlier. Thanks Uber.

My use of the word hypocrite didn't rely on the religious or moral aspect of its use. More of the principles. I can understand why you'd need to derail it the other direction though, since it helps distract from the failing points of your arguments.

Using my reference to players I know as an equal misuse of intentional misrepresentation of CIs, is a pretty clear example of what's quoted. I never said all new players, just the ones I've played with. You presented a small selection of CIs and passed it off as the entire market. You claimed I had nothing to back up what I said with, and I showed you I did. You blew it up out of proportions, and attacked that position.

Now, unless you have anything to add about wether or not hyperinflation exist and care to remain on track with the OP, unlike the majority of your recent posts, then I'm done with the conversation.

While part of me tells me "I'm only feeding one of them" . . .

I'm not sure how showing the illogic conclusions you assert has become a morality issue for you. Sorry you couldn't make a valid point in the thread. Better luck next time.

True, I did fall into your little straw-man trap there. While I never expressed my experience spoke for all of the new player base, and didn't intend it to, you did assert your small sample of CIs spoke for every level of CIs. And the market as a whole. Certainly, there will be players who come to the game and want all the shinies right away. I don't feel the game needs that kind of mentality, so if they're chased off by not being given everything at once, I'm ok with that.

Why bring it up? Do you feel intentionally using a small selection as an example for a whole entity is bad practice?