Ridia

No opinions huh?

I tend to play a bit like a "Blapper" sometimes using my secondary for some Melee but generally I stand back and let loose from the outside. My question is -

My main toon is an Energy Blaster which as we all know allows the use of the knockback effect with certain powers.

Would it be a wise strategy to wade into the middle of a group of enemies, use secondary for Melee, be a little tankerish to generate some aggro to get the, all gathered around and then use Nova to send them all flying away with awesome knockback?

Is the blaster up for something like this or is it not a good idea to generate that much heat?

"Invoke" Power

I have posted several threads about a possible shape shifting AT/EAT or a shape shifting Primary. What about an "Invoke" type of power, wether it be a primary or even an AT where you don't necessarily shape shift but instead you invoke the powers and abilities of whatever you would shift into. For example

Primary: Invoke Demon

(you gain the abilties of a demon, use the powers from the Summon Demon set)

Toggle Invoke, Temporary, Special.

Level 1- Invoke Demonling- Starts as level 1 Demonling(fiery), when character increases to security level 6 it becomes the level 6 Demonling(cold) and when the character reaches security level 18 it becomes level 18 Demonling(Hellfire).

Level 12- Invoke Demon- starts as level 12 Ember Demon, at level 24 it becomes Hellfire Gargoyle.

Level 26- Invoke Demon Prince- You invoke the powers of a Demon Prince.

As a primary that leaves levels 2, 6, 8, 18 and 32, once again just for example use the Summon Demons Powerset from Mastermind.

Level 2- Lash

Level 6- Enchant Self

Level 8- Crack Whip

Level 18- Hell on Earth (used on self and/or team)

Level 32- Abyssal Empowerment (use on self and/or team)

This gives you a full primary Powerset. The invoked powers that are gained act as temporary powers that only last for some predetermined period of time and for some predetermined amount of times per day. When you toggle this invoke power and it is active a transparent image of whatever level demon is transposed over your toon instead of an actual shape shift.

What do you think.

Wrong forum, check suggestions.

Archetype: Scrapper

Primary: Street Justice

Secondary: Super Reflexes

Power Pools: Leaping

Travel Power: Ninja Run

This in theory would make a Parkour/Freerunning urban ninja type of character which would be pretty cool. Would be cool if there was an acrobatic fight style as a primary such as Tricking or Capoeira.

Guess you guys are right. Maybe when they update the engine whenever they do that. It think it's still an awesome idea and would be cool to have. It would differ from ninja run in that it ninja run simply allows you to run fast and jump fast, basically nothing gets in your way, and you do a flip at the top of your jump arc. With Parkour/Freerunning you would climb and leap from one structure to another, use pipes and over passes to swing from and anything else used in Parkour/Free running, not just move fast over things like Ninja Run.

I don't disagree with what you are saying but I think they could work it in somehow.muse Ninja Run as their starting point and build off it from there.

How epic would this set be! It would be so cool to have a Parkour/Freerunning travel power and be able to stylistically use the urban environment to get around. They could even some combat related aspects like in the Leaping power pool.

What do you think of a Parkour/Freerunning power pool?

I am leveling a StJ/EA Scraper and loving it so far. StJ is so brutal!!!!

Def see what your saying, but what about SJ paired with FA, would that be better than SS/FA???

Now I mean straight up no supernatural powers, just hands/feet/elbows/knees.

We got-

Martial Arts
Street Justice
Super Strength

It seems to me Street Justice is the best because of the combos, but I normally play an Energy/Energy Blaster as my main toon and decided to make a SJ/EA Scrapper and am not as experienced with Melee toons.

Any opinions???

I love the feedback and advice, thanks, I will def tweak more after work and repost!

Two new proposed EAT's.

Ethereal and Empyrean beings are entities composed of the essence used to breath life into the universe.

Ethereans represent the psionic energy used to give mortals sentience while Empyreans represent the fire like energy used to give mortals form. The two races of beings oppose the eachother on the argument of the others importance and contribution to the creation of mortals and have been enemies for millennia.

These two EAT's become available to both Heroes and Villains at Level 50 and act as a way to further develop a high level long used character. They also elevate the scope of gameplay from "street level" to "cosmic" or "universal". Much like the Kheldian Peacebringers and Warshades these EATS's require VIP status or purchase on the Paragon Market.

Each race has a single Primary and Secondary power set.

Etherean-
Primary- Ethereal Assault
Secondary- Ethereal Affinity

Empyrean-

Primary- Empyreal Assault
Secondary- Empyreal Affinity

Like the other EAT's both primaries have a shapeshift power at Level 6 and both secondaries have a shapeshift ability at Level 20.

More to come later today on each primary and scondary specific powers, inherents and travel powers. Let me know what you think!!!

I am going to try using this idea to make an EAT/HEAT/VEAT.

Also, the powers gained from a shift could replace the power gained from the chosen primary at the specified levels if there is any.

Will keep working on it

Its still a work in progress. The shifting is spread so far out becausetje AT already gets so many powers from primary and secondary. This could very well become an EAT.

For those of you who have already read this, read it again, I have made several changes since originaly posting.

Once again, I really tried to listen to all of the advice and make a realistic AT. I think this is the best version so far. It is very different from the previous version, read my first two threads to see the differences. I once again welcome all criticism and ideas etc...

CITY OF HEROES ARCHETYPE IDEA- SHIFTER

Primary: Shapeshifting/Assault
Secondary: Defense
Inherent: Battleform
Base HP: 1338.6
Max HP: 2409.5
Primary Sets: 13
Secondary Sets: 7

Overview

Shifter's deal in the art of physical transformation . As a Shifter your signature ability is to shift into a Battleform, a predetermined physical form used to assault your enemies. At different levels you gain the ability to shift into a predetermined from. Your Battleform grants you temporary powers, abilities and traits in direct relation to the chosen form, the access to those abilities unlock with each new shift level.

Shifters can select from the following Battleform’s at character creation-

- Beast Form
- Plant Form
- Elemental Form (fire, earth, wind, ice)**
- Shadow Form
- Cyborg Form
- Demonic Form*
- Celestial Form*

*Demonic and Celestial forms require VIP status or purchase on the Paragon Market

** Elemental Form, player will choose one element at character creation and can only use that element.

The Shifter’s Power Sets Are:

Survivability: 7
Melee Damage: 5
Ranged Damage: 5
Crowd Control: 2
Support: 3
Pets: 2

Power Sets

Primary Power Sets

A Shifter’s primary power sets are designed for combat. They are:

Archery
Battle Axe
Broad Sword
Claws
Dual Blades
Katana
Martial Arts
Ninja Blade
Staff Fighting
Street Justice
Super Strength
Titan Weapons
War Mace

A Shifter’s secondary power sets are designed for defense. They are:

Invulnerability
Ninjitsu
Pain Domination
Regeneration
Shield Defense
Super Reflexes
Willpower


Ancillary Power Pools

Body Mastery
Beast Mastery
Form Mastery
Celestial Mastery
Demonic Mastery

Patron Power Pools

Leviathan Mastery
Mace Mastery
Mu Mastery
Soul Mastery

Inherent Power

Battleform is the signature ability of a Shifter, however the ability to stay within the current form only lasts for so long. While a Shifter engages in battle using their chosen Battleform the amount of time remaining in the form is shown by an orange bar between Endurance and Experience Points. The bar very slightly increases each time the Shifter successfully deals damage to an enemy and quickly decreases each time the Shifter receives damage or uses up Endurance. If a Shifter uses up too much Endurance or receives too much damage they will revert back to their human form and suffer the effects of being stunned.

Primary Powers

Battleforms

Level 7- Juvenile Transformation - This is your first shift into your selected form. This shift grants you a basic melee/ranged attack that relates to your chosen form. Recharge- Very fast.

Beast- Claw Strike- Melee, Minor DMG(Lethal), Foe Taunt.

Plant- Strangler- Ranged, Moderate DoT(Smash), Foe Hold.

Elemental- Fire/Earth/Wind/Ice Blast- Ranged, Moderate DMG(fire/earth/wind/ice)

Shadow- Dark Blast- Ranged, Moderate DMG(Negative), Foe-To-Hit.

Cyborg- Charged Brawl- Melee, Moderate DMG(Smash/Energy), Foe-End, -Recovery

Demonic- Hellfire- Ranged, Moderate DMG(Fire/Toxic), -Resistance

Celestial- Gleaming Bolt- Ranged, Minor DMG(Energy), Foe-Defense

Level 19- Adolescent Transformation - This is your second shift into your selected form. This shift grants you a “Self” oriented power that relates to your chosen form. Recharge- Moderate.

Beast- Fortify- PBAoE, Self +Defense, +Regeneration.

Plant- Deep Roots- PBAoE, Self +Regeneration.

Elemental- Healing (Flames, Soil, Wind, Icicles)- Self Heal, +Resistance (Opposing Element- Fire+Ice, Earth+Wind).

Shadow- Shadow Fall- Toggle: PBAoE, Stealth, +DEF(All).

Cyborg- Conductive Aura- Toggle: PBAoE, Foe-End, Self +Rec, +Regen.

Demonic- Hellfire Aura- PBAoE, Moderate DMG over Time(Fire/Toxic).

Celestial- Essence Boost- Self: heal, +Max Health, +Resistance(Toxic).

Level 37- Young Adult Transformation - This is your third shift into your selected form. This shift grants you an AoE based power depending on and relating to you selected form. Recharge- Long.

Beast- Eviscerate- Melee (Cone), Superior DMG(Lethal), Foe-Def(All), Taunt.

Plant- Creepers- Ranged (TAoE), Foe -SPD, -Fly, -Jump.

Elemental- Consume by (Fire, Earth, Wind, Ice)- TAoE, Superior DMG(Fire,Earth,Wind,Ice), Self +End.

Shadow- Night Fall- Ranged (Cone), Superior DMG(Negative), Foe-To Hit.

Cyborg- Discharge- Ranged (Cone), Superior DMG(Energy), Foe- End, -Recovery.

Demonic- Abyssal Burst- Ranged (TAoE), Self: +Heal, -Foe(Toxic DMG).

Celestial- Scatter- Ranged (Cone), Superior DMG(Energy), Foe: -Def.

Level 50- Adult Transformation - This is fourth and final shift into your selected form. This shift grants you a devastating power or ability relating to your selected form. Recharge- Very Long.

Beast- One Thousand Claws- Melee (Cone), Extreme DMG(Lethal).

Plant- Razorvine Trap- Melee (PBAoE), Extreme DMG over Time(Lethal), Foe: -End.

Elemental- Atomic (Fire,Earth,Wind,Ice), Melee (PBAoE), Extreme DMG(Fire,Earth,Wind,Ice/Lethal)), Foe: -End, -Reg.

Shadow- Shadow Grasp- Melee (Cone), Extreme DMG(Negative), Foe Immobilize, -To Hit.

Cyborg- Power Strike- Melee (TAoE), Extreme DMG(Smash/Energy), Foe Disorient, -Recovery, Knockback.

Demonic- Demonstar- PBAoE, Extreme DMG(Negative), Foe -To Hit, Self -Recovery.

Celestial- Ethereal Strike- PBAoE, Extreme DMG(Energy), Foe- Defense, Knockback, Self -Recovery.

Animations

Each shift/transformation will have the animation to show the player shift into their Battleform. Several different choices will be included for the actual Beast, Plant, Elemental style, Cyborg, Shadow, Demon and Celestial forms. These forms change to fit their title as level increases. For example if you choose Demon Form you mature from a young demonling and as the levels increase you get bigger and mature into the eventual Demon Prince or Arch-Demon appearance.

Travel Powers

As you increase in levels you will gain access to travel powers, such as Beast Run for Beast Form, the correct wings for the Demon and the Celestial Form or electrical line travel for Cyborg.

Once again, amazing ideas that I will try to incorporate into the next revision. I think the hardest part is figuring the powers when shifted and not shifted. Right now I have the shifted form based off the selected primary but I do like the idea of the form being chosen at creation and than a single primary based on the chosen form with powers for both shifted and unshifted included at various levels with a full transformation at 32. Example with a beast form, in the lower levels you only have claws, then add in bite, then beast run, then higher damage claw.and bite and by the time you reach 32 you are a full blown beast. I am picturing more of a beastman than an actual animal.

I changed the HP stats to the same as the Scrapper, took away Posion, Empathy and Shield Defense and removed the Kinetic form. This should scale down the AT's overall über ness quite a bit. I don't think it really needs to many secondary sets anyway. As for the Celestial form it could be more Angelic, but how, gimme some Angel power ideas.

I took all of your advice and did several missions, TF's and what not. My character is now Level 23 and I could be more pleased with ti!!!

I took everyones suggestions and tried to add them in. Now I will say I used mostly already created powers for each of the Primary sets just to give an example of how the AT could work. I could have created all of my own powers but the ones already in the game pretty much represent what I would have made up anyway. Remember this is just an idea that I had and tried to add the ideas and criticism from people who posted on the original thread to make it better. I still welcome all thoughts to make it better.

CITY OF HEROES ARCHETYPE IDEA- SHIFTER

Primary: Shapeshifting/Assault
Secondary: Defense
Inherent: Battleform
Base HP: 1338.6
Max HP: 2409.5
Primary Sets: 7
Secondary Sets: 4

Overview

Shifter's deal in the art of physical transformation . As a Shifter your signature ability is to shift into a Battleform, a predetermined physical form used to assault your enemies. Your offensive and defensive powers depend on the predetermined Battleform you choose from your primary power set. Your Battleform grants you temporary powers, abilities and traits in direct relation to the chosen form. Shifters are extremely weak against psionics and can be reverted to their human form easily through psionic manipulation.

The Shifter’s Power Sets Are:

Survivability: 7
Melee Damage: 5
Ranged Damage: 5
Crowd Control: 2
Support: 3
Pets: 2

Power Sets

Primary Power Sets

A Shifter’s primary power sets are designed for combat shapeshifting. They are:

- Beast Form
- Plant Form
- Elemental Form (fire, earth, wind, ice)**
- Shadow Form
- Cyborg Form
- Demonic Form*
- Celestial Form*

*Demonic/Celestial forms require VIP status or purchase on the Paragon Market

** Elemental Form, player will choose one element at character creation when this primary is chosen and can only use that element.

A Shifter’s secondary power sets are designed for defense. They are:

- Invulnerability
- Regeneration
- Super Reflexes
- Willpower

Ancillary Power Pools

Body Mastery
Beast Mastery
Form Mastery
Celestial Mastery
Demonic Mastery

Patron Power Pools

Leviathan Mastery
Mace Mastery
Mu Mastery
Soul Mastery

Inherent Power

Battleform is the signature ability of a Shifter, however the ability to stay within the current form only lasts for so long. While a Shifter engages in battle using their chosen Battleform the amount of time remaining in the form is shown by an orange bar between Endurance and Experience Points. The bar very slightly increases each time the Shifter successfully deals damage to an enemy and quickly decreases each time the Shifter receives damage or uses up Endurance. If a Shifter uses up too much Endurance or receives too much damage they will revert back to their human form and suffer the effects of being stunned. Psionic effects can easily revert a player back to human form regardless of the orange bar level.

Primary Powers

Beast Form

Level 1- Swipe (Claws Primary)- Melee, Minor DMG(Lethal), Foe Taunt

Level 1- Strike (Claws Primary)- Melee, Moderate DMG(Lethal), Foe Taunt

Level 2- Beast Hide- This power allows you to gain a temporary buff to your defense from Lethal damage- Self Heal, +Max Health, +Res(Lethal)

Level 6- Roar of the Lion- This power allows you to let out a monstrous roar that instills fear into your enemies which causes them to tremble in terror and reduces their chance to hit- Ranged (PBAoE), Foe Taunt, -Range, -To Hit

Level 8- Slash (Claws Primary)- Melee, Moderate DMG(Lethal), Foe DEF(All), Taunt

Level 12- Bite- This power allows you to clamp down on your opponent with your teeth and furiously shake them causing disorientation- Melee, Superior DMG(Lethal), Foe Disorient, -To Hit.

Level 18- Eviscerate (Claws Primary)- Melee, Superior DMG(Lethal), +Special

Level 26- Frenzy Strikes- This power allows you to make several swipes and slashes with both claws that deal moderate to major legal damage- Melee, Superior DMG(Lethal), Knockback.

Level 32- Unleash- This power allows you to release a full fledged attack on all enemies within Melee range. You swipe, slice, slash and bite dealing moderate to superior lethal damage as well as draining damage over time. This attack has a very long recharge time and leaves you at reduced endurance levels- PBAoE, Superior DMG(Lethal), Foe-DEF(All)

Levels 1, 8 and 18 can all be used in human form at double recharge.

Levels 2, 6, 12, 26 and 32 can only be used in Battleform.

Plant Form

Use Controller’s “Plant Control” power.

Levels 1, 6, and 8 can all be used in human form at double recharge.

Levels 2, 12, 18, 26 and 32 can only be used in Battleform.

Elemental Form

Use the Following

Fire- Use Dominator’s “Fire Assault” power.
Earth- Use Dominator’s “Earth Assault” power.
Wind- Use “Storm Summoning” power.
Ice- Use Dominators “Ice Assault” power.

Shadow Form

Use Dominator’s “Dark Assault” power.

Cyborg Form

Use “Electrical Melee” or “Electric Control” power.

Demonic Form (all from Demon Summoning power and Dark Blast)

Level 1- Claw Rake

Level 1- Flares

Level 2- Fire Blast

Level 6- Fire Breath

Level 8- Abyssal Reconstruction

Level 12- Hellfire Burst

Level 18- Hell On Earth

Level 26- Death Shroud

Level 32- Blackstar

Celestial Form (all from Luminous Blast and Luminous Aura)

Level 1- Gleaming Bolt

Level 1- Shining Shield

Level 2- Gleaming Blast

Level 6- Bright Nova

Level 8- Quantum Shield

Level 12- Luminous Detonation

Level 18- Reform Essence

Level 26- Solar Flare

Level 32- Dawn Strike

Animations

Each Primary will have the animation to show the player shift into their Battleform. Several different choices will be included for the actual Beast, Plant, Elemental style, Cyborg, Shadow, Demon and Celestial forms. These forms will also be able to change as level increases. For example if you choose Demon Form for your primary in the lower levels you shift into a smaller, juvenile demon and as the levels increase you get bigger to the eventual Demon Prince or Arch-Demon appearance.

Travel Powers

As you increase in levels you will gain access to travel powers, such as Beast Run for Beast Form primary and the correct wings for the Demon and the Celestial Form primary.