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Fix my kheld?

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You make a sound argument.

Ok, perma eclipse me. One caveat, I would like to keep the S/L Resist toggle.

Perhaps I did not understand what I read on the Lightform changes then. I've had my PB since khelds were around, keep in mind my some what long sabbitical, and Lightform used to be unstoppable almost exactly. I read the changes and probably didn't process them as I should have. So my question would be,

In a perma lightform build today, If I'm playing and just hanging out and forget to hit light form occasionally, am I going to be face planting or is the build strong enough that permalightform is a option and not the norm?

I ask because you compared lightform to eclipse, and on my WS I know without Eclipse running constantly, I am in trouble.

As to my playstyle, I play tanks more than anything else other than my PB. And I find that I don't break free of the run in and lay waste mentality my tanks enjoy very easily.

Comic books - how do you get started?

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Here is a list I like.

http://www.crisis2crisis.com/

If you want a continuous story than spans a few books, and gives you a nice condensed history of DC Comics, this is the site you want.

Fix my kheld?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkpup

May I ask why?

No, I don't mind. I remember permaunstoppable (cause I've been around forever, gone the last 2 years roughly before freedom, came back as a premium, and now i'm back on the boards

). The hatred of permaunstoppable turned into a hatred of perma(insertclickablepower). I want my guys to be able to stand on their own two feet without rely on the tier 9 "oh crap" powers. Having said that, I'm not against having that power setting my tray because sometimes it does hit the fan hard enough you want that boost.

Fix my kheld?

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Yes, please have a look in mids. I'm sure there are better slotting options than what I choose that will give me much of the same results. I don't mind hasten, couldn't even tell you why I didn't take it on this build. And I like lightform as well, I just didn't want to use perma lightform.

Fix my kheld?

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I was planning on spending most of my time in human but still wanted both forms. I know the build, despite the set totals, is bad. Slot placement is bad, etc. I just can't get my brain around the fix. Maybe I've been staring at it to long etc. Fresh set of eyes and all that.

Consolidated Tanker Improvement Ideas

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I think I just want a higher aggro cap and increased taunt aura.

The aggro cap though has to be divisible by the number of targets taunt can hit.

Fix my kheld?

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Or at least let me know if this build isn't viable. With all the changes that have been made lately I'm not sure how to go with him. The only things I know I want is that I want tri form, and I don't want to duplicate powers, so since squid has blasts, I would rather not take blasts on human. I don't really want to go perma lightform either. Just personal preference there. So here is the build...

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kheldian detective: Level 50 Natural Peacebringer
Primary Power Set: Luminous Blast
Secondary Power Set: Luminous Aura
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Glinting Eye

(A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure

Level 1: Incandescence

(A) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
(5) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(5) Resist Damage IO

Level 2: Shining Shield

(A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
(3) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
(3) Reactive Armor - Resistance
(7) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge

Level 4: Essence Boost

(A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
(9) Miracle - Heal/Recharge
(9) Harmonized Healing - Heal/Recharge

Level 6: Bright Nova

(A) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff
(7) Rectified Reticle - Increased Perception

Level 8: Radiant Strike

(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
(11) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
(11) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(13) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge

Level 10: Boxing

(A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure

Level 12: Inner Light

(A) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(15) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff

Level 14: Tough

(A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
(17) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
(17) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
(48) Reactive Armor - Resistance

Level 16: Weave

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(19) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
(19) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure

Level 18: Incandescent Strike

(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
(21) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
(21) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
(42) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 20: White Dwarf

(A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
(23) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
(23) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
(31) Reactive Armor - Resistance

Level 22: Reform Essence

(A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
(25) Miracle - Heal/Recharge
(25) Harmonized Healing - Heal/Recharge

Level 24: Conserve Energy

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(27) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 26: Luminous Detonation

(A) Exploited Vulnerability - Defense Debuff
(29) Exploited Vulnerability - Defense Debuff/Recharge
(29) Exploited Vulnerability - Defense Debuff/Recharge/Endurance

Level 28: Quantum Acceleration

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed

Level 30: Solar Flare

(A) Obliteration - Damage
(31) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
(31) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
(42) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(45) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(48) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 32: Maneuvers

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(33) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure

Level 35: Restore Essence

(A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 38: Light Form

(A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
(39) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
(39) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
(45) Reactive Armor - Resistance

Level 41: Photon Seekers

(A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
(50) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure

Level 44: Pulsar

(A) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Recharge
(46) Razzle Dazzle - Endurance/Stun
(46) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Endurance
(46) Razzle Dazzle - Stun/Range
(48) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge

Level 47: Tactics

(A) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff
(50) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff/Recharge

Level 49: Vengeance

(A) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
(50) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed

Level 2: Swift

(A) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure

Level 2: Health

(A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
(39) Miracle - +Recovery
(40) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration

Level 2: Hurdle

(A) Jumping IO

Level 2: Stamina

(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(40) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(40) Endurance Modification IO

Level 1: Brawl

(A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure

Level 1: Cosmic Balance
Level 1: Energy Flight

(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash

(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide

(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick

(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush

(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge

(A) Empty

Level 1: Sprint

(A) Celerity - +Stealth

Level 2: Rest

(A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 10: Combat Flight

(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 6: Bright Nova Blast

(A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure

Level 6: Bright Nova Bolt

(A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure

Level 6: Bright Nova Detonation

(A) Exploited Vulnerability - Defense Debuff
(36) Exploited Vulnerability - Defense Debuff/Recharge
(43) Exploited Vulnerability - Defense Debuff/Recharge/Endurance

Level 6: Bright Nova Scatter

(A) Exploited Vulnerability - Defense Debuff
(43) Exploited Vulnerability - Defense Debuff/Recharge
(45) Exploited Vulnerability - Defense Debuff/Recharge/Endurance

Level 20: White Dwarf Antagonize

(A) Mocking Beratement - Taunt
(13) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge
(33) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge/Range
(34) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Range

Level 20: White Dwarf Flare

(A) Obliteration - Damage
(27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
(36) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
(36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(43) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 20: White Dwarf Smite

(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
(15) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
(34) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
(34) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 20: White Dwarf Step

(A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 20: White Dwarf Strike

(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
(33) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
(37) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(42) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance

Level 20: White Dwarf Sublimation

(A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
(37) Miracle - Heal/Recharge

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Set Bonus Totals:

6% DamageBuff(Smashing)
6% DamageBuff(Lethal)
6% DamageBuff(Fire)
6% DamageBuff(Cold)
6% DamageBuff(Energy)
6% DamageBuff(Negative)
6% DamageBuff(Toxic)
6% DamageBuff(Psionic)
30.81% Defense(Melee)
38% Defense(Smashing)
38% Defense(Lethal)
3% Defense(Fire)
3% Defense(Cold)
8% Defense(Energy)
8% Defense(Negative)
3% Defense(Psionic)
5.5% Defense(Ranged)
3% Defense(AoE)
1.8% Max End
27% Enhancement(Accuracy)
2% Enhancement(Stunned)
40% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
5% SpeedFlying
80.32 HP (7.5%) HitPoints
5% JumpHeight
5% SpeedJumping
Knockback (Mag -12)
Knockup (Mag -12)
MezResist(Held) 2.75%
MezResist(Immobilized) 15.4%
MezResist(Stunned) 4.4%
20% PerceptionRadius
3.5% (0.06 End/sec) Recovery
20% ResEffect(SpeedFlying)
20% ResEffect(RechargeTime)
20% ResEffect(SpeedRunning)
5% SpeedRunning

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Set Bonuses:
Steadfast Protection
(Incandescence)

1.5% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
Knockback (Mag -4), Knockup (Mag -4)
3% Defense(Melee), 3% Defense(AoE), 3% Defense(Ranged), 3% Defense(Smashing), 3% Defense(Lethal), 3% Defense(Fire), 3% Defense(Cold), 3% Defense(Energy), 3% Defense(Negative), 3% Defense(Psionic)

Reactive Armor
(Shining Shield)

MezResist(Immobilized) 1.1%
1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)

Rectified Reticle
(Bright Nova)

1.88% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.94% Defense(Melee)
20% PerceptionRadius

Kinetic Combat
(Radiant Strike)

MezResist(Immobilized) 2.75%
16.06 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)

Rectified Reticle
(Inner Light)

1.88% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.94% Defense(Melee)

Reactive Armor
(Tough)

MezResist(Immobilized) 1.1%
1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)

Luck of the Gambler
(Weave)

7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)

Kinetic Combat
(Incandescent Strike)

MezResist(Immobilized) 2.75%
16.06 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)

Reactive Armor
(White Dwarf)

MezResist(Immobilized) 1.1%
1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)

Exploited Vulnerability
(Luminous Detonation)

3% Enhancement(Accuracy)
1.25% Defense(Melee), 0.63% Defense(Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Smashing)

Luck of the Gambler
(Quantum Acceleration)

7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)

Obliteration
(Solar Flare)

MezResist(Stunned) 2.2%
3% DamageBuff(All)
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
3.75% Defense(Melee), 1.88% Defense(Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Smashing)

Luck of the Gambler
(Maneuvers)

7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)

Reactive Armor
(Light Form)

MezResist(Immobilized) 1.1%
1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)

Razzle Dazzle
(Pulsar)

2% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
16.06 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
2% Enhancement(Stunned)
2.5% Defense(Melee), 1.25% Defense(Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Smashing)

Rectified Reticle
(Tactics)

1.88% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.94% Defense(Melee)

Luck of the Gambler
(Vengeance)

7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)

Performance Shifter
(Stamina)

5% SpeedJumping, 5% JumpHeight, 5% SpeedFlying, 5% SpeedRunning

Blessing of the Zephyr
(Energy Flight)

Knockback (Mag -4), Knockup (Mag -4)

Blessing of the Zephyr
(Combat Flight)

Knockback (Mag -4), Knockup (Mag -4)

Exploited Vulnerability
(Bright Nova Detonation)

3% Enhancement(Accuracy)
1.25% Defense(Melee), 0.63% Defense(Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Smashing)

Exploited Vulnerability
(Bright Nova Scatter)

3% Enhancement(Accuracy)
1.25% Defense(Melee), 0.63% Defense(Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Smashing)

Mocking Beratement
(White Dwarf Antagonize)

1.8% Max End
MezResist(Held) 2.75%
2.5% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Melee)

Obliteration
(White Dwarf Flare)

MezResist(Stunned) 2.2%
3% DamageBuff(All)
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
3.75% Defense(Melee), 1.88% Defense(Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Smashing)

Kinetic Combat
(White Dwarf Smite)

MezResist(Immobilized) 2.75%
16.06 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)

Winter's Gift
(White Dwarf Step)

20% ResEffect(SpeedRunning), 20% ResEffect(RechargeTime), 20% ResEffect(SpeedFlying)

Kinetic Combat
(White Dwarf Strike)

MezResist(Immobilized) 2.75%
16.06 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)

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Soft Capping +def on a fire tank?

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Is it possible?

that's really what I what to know lol

I was running over possible builds, but this is my first fire/fire so I thought I would ask.

Time to finish fixing Invulnerability

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Talen_Lee

Is it really that much to ask you to prove your own points?

No Talen its not, but I have no idea where to even begin with the math side of this. Having said that (my math skills really are that bad, you guys don't even know, anything past algebra and I'm stumped), I FEEL this would be a good change. The only thing I have to go on is my experience. My experience playing a INV/SS and taking from issue 2 to issue 7 to get him to 50 (my first 50 actually) tells me in my gut this is a good change. I really didn't expect to get this much static about that change. I'm not asking for numbers to be changed, no respecs need be given out (remember, they didn't give out freespecs with the taunt change), I'm just asking for a quality of life change that helps INV across the board. AGAIN, this is what my gut tells me would be a good change. I can't do the math on it, honestly, because I don't know how. I can tell you that from I2 until (ED) I had TI, UY, INV, and RPD as my main powers, TI was six slotted, RPD was 3 slotted, UY was six slotted and INV had 5 def in it. I can tell you that when ED hit, I picked up the rest of the passives and DP. And Still felt ok with how much damage I could take which is how I arrived at the 35% would be a good mark for exotic damage, I Can tell you that when GDN hit my INV truly felt weak even after I picked up Unstoppable, GDN is the reason I wanted the UY def debuff halved, it was the only DEF value in the game that I'm awware of that wasn't slashed in half with the rest of the DEF values. After ED and GDN I had to take powers I didn't really want on my guys concept, US, DP, Hasten, basically the power gamer powers. And I had to do that just to be able to tank. So when I Say I have a lot of experience with INV as a set, I do truly. And this is why my gut tells me this would be a good change.

(GDN may have come before ED, its been a while so I may have to the two backwards in the time frame)

Time to finish fixing Invulnerability

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Call_Me_Awesome

Going from 0% to 5% of defense is nearly meaningless... but going from 25% to 30% is quite significant, and going from 40% to 45% actually DOUBLES the amount of protection. Defense works best when the values get higher. You'll never notice 5% of defense, but you most assuredly will notice the difference 40% to 45% makes.

Let me just state, that the only real way to test this was back when UY had the def debuff. I spent quite a bit of time running around on a INV/Fire tanker during that period and spent a whole lot of time with UY turned off. I kept it turned off because I Was taking less damage. This is due to not having -5% def. I was fighting trolls, so no real worry of status effect issues. This was done primarily to test how much the def debuff hurt lower levels. This was also done before I left which is a few months before the INV tweaks. Once again, if someone more mathematically inclined than would run the numbers, I think we would see a much higher time to live with TH + TI + UY than with RPD + TI + UY. Someone summon Arcanaville.

Time to finish fixing Invulnerability

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Originally Posted by Failsight

Just highlighting the operative, and most disagreeable (in a polite sense) word here: people are showing it's not necessary. What your proposed changes may likely be are "beneficial" or "closer to optimal," but by no means necessary, as it's pretty well pointed out that the set is doing just fine as is. It could be tweaked to be better, but it's not necessary. And if it's not necessary, yet requires a lot of headache for the Devs (i.e. needing to give freespecs out to every Invul player in the game), it's likely not to happen.

I would disagree that I'm being shown its not necessary. What I'm seeing is now that INV is performing almost right where it should, people are scared for the devs to go back and touch it anymore. And the Devs don't need to give out freespecs to all the invul players in the game, they sure didn't do it when Taunt got switched from lvl 6 to lvl 10.

What this boils down to is the first two INV powers are redundant protecting against the same thing. Granted, TI does a much better job than RPD due to its higher numbers, but it makes a INV tank squishier than he would be up to lvl 18 due to a lack of def in the tri-protection INV has been built on. Keep in mind, still not asking for number tweaking or anything, I'm happy to with the way INV performs, but, a power rearrange in RPD for TH would give low level (yes, some of us like to hold aggro before the taunt aura and survive it) tanking a more super feel, and I predict that the health yo yo some people are putting forth would not even be there. Maybe Starsman could alter his chart or something to show the effect of a TH, TI, UY, DP build up to level 16 vs the current build with most INV players( excepting those that don't have a choice and are forced into RPD ie scrappers, brutes, etc) who take RPD and TI.

Also, I'm not really a math person, I pick what feels right, when I wanted the passives boosted so UY + Passives = 32%. I didn't do any calculation, I knew what my experience was playing from Issue 1 through ED and GDN. 32% felt right. This swap I'm proposing FEELs right.

Time to finish fixing Invulnerability

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It is nitpicky. I agree, but its necessary. As was stated earlier, RPD gives S/L resist which is already covered by TI in that early stage. TH gives 5% def to all except psi. Now, lets not forget one important factor according to our devs, 1 def = 2 resist. So 5% def is like a 10% resist spike to everything.

Time to finish fixing Invulnerability

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All I'm asking for is two powers to be swapped. I don't want any numbers changed, I don't want any buffs. Just swap RPD and TH. I promise it will help the low level game. You guys will just have to trust me when I say that 5% +DEF makes a ton of difference. I could see it back when UY had the -5% DEF, I wouldn't run UY most of the time and it was tons more survival that way (provided the mobs weren't status effect).

Super Strength - is Hand Clap worth taking?

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I like handclap as it is. Especially when Unstoppable starts blinking and I hit conserve power before it drops, and then it drops and I handclap and start turning on toggles and DP to recover.

Time to finish fixing Invulnerability

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When I left I had three things on my list that would fix invulnerability.

1. -5% def debuff in unyielding - I wanted this halved because when GDN hit, this was the only defensive value in the game I know that wasn't halved as well. I wanted this set to 2.5%. It has since been completely removed.

2. Passives boosted to 32% when fully SO - this is the number that felt right, it added to resistance and gave what I'm calling time-to-live. With an increase in resistance, you have a slow down on the amount of incoming damage and that gives you time to hit a green, hit DP, or hit unstoppable if needed. That passives have been boosted and with IOs it is easy to hit this number on exotic damage.

3. Swap RPD and Tough Hide - this hasn't happened yet.

The RPD and Tough Hide swap at first doesn't seem to do anything. However, this makes the early tank game for invulnerability more survival. Invulnerability has always had a three pronged approach to tanking - defense + resistance + healing. In the early game however, you only get two of your prongs to survive. You get resistance and healing from levels 1 to 18. At 18 you get invincibility and there is +def. It is my belief that this is why INV tanks don't start feeling like tanks until level 18. And this swap not only helps INV tanks. It helps INV scrappers and brutes as well by getting all the components of INV in place so they can survive to.

Let Tankers be Tankers: Remove the Agro Cap

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn

Well, ED and the GDN weren't done to specifically limit the ability to herd. They were done to weaken the characters, and bring the power levels closer together, to allow for more balanced content in the future. Basically, the Devs, without the GDN and ED couldn't have created content that challenged Tankers without it being nearly impossible for someone else to do.

Now, those did have an impact on the feasibility of herding, since your power levels weren't up to snuff to herd whole maps anymore, but they were not done to specifically limit herding. The aggro cap and the AoE target caps were specifically done to limit herding activities.

The aggro cap has a completely different purpose from ED and the GDN, though they are corrolary.

I get that, I do. But at the same time, the devs at that point should have said, "you know, about this herding, I know a aggro cap was talked about as a fix, but lets see what weakening the characters does for us first."

Let Tankers be Tankers: Remove the Agro Cap

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Let Tankers be Tankers: Remove the Agro Cap

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The agro cap (17) was originally put in place back in the day to keep players from being able to pull entire mission maps at once.

Along with this change we had ED, GDN and max target limitations put into place.

When considering the current game, the agro cap is a relic and is actually debilitating the role of the Tanker. IO builds allow Scrappers to easily reach the point where they can replace a tank for a group of 17 mobs or less. In the past two weeks, I've built three Scrappers, two of which could replace a Tanker in the STF and the other which (a farming toon no less) could replace a Tanker for virtually any other content.

The agro cap hides the true differences between Tankers and Scrappers in todays game. My proposal is to remove the agro cap while retaining max targets per power. The idea is to allow Tankers to flex their tanking muscles again.

Let us be Tankers, not short bus Scrappers.

RHAR!

I agree. They implemented 3 fixes to herding, ED, GDN, and the aggro cap. Any one of those would have been fine.

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Speedy Guide to Inventions for Stone Tanks

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To add to the old thread, here is a Stone/SS build I'm working on.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.30
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php

Profit - Final: Level 50 Natural Tanker
Primary Power Set: Stone Armor
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leadership

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Rock Armor <ul type="square">[*] (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50[*] (27) Defense Buff IO: Level 50[*] (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50[*] (37) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 40[/list]Level 1: Jab <ul type="square">[*] (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50[*] (46) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance: Level 50[*] (46) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge: Level 50[*] (48) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50[*] (50) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50[/list]Level 2: Stone Skin <ul type="square">[*] (A) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50[*] (3) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50[*] (3) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30[*] (37) Resist Damage IO: Level 50[/list]Level 4: Haymaker <ul type="square">[*] (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50[*] (5) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance: Level 50[*] (5) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge: Level 50[*] (15) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50[*] (15) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50[/list]Level 6: Earth's Embrace <ul type="square">[*] (A) Regenerative Tissue - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30[*] (7) Regenerative Tissue - Heal/Recharge: Level 30[*] (7) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50[*] (13) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge: Level 50[*] (13) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50[*] (50) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge: Level 50[/list]Level 8: Rooted <ul type="square">[*] (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance: Level 50[*] (9) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50[*] (9) Regenerative Tissue - Heal/Endurance: Level 30[*] (33) Regenerative Tissue - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30[*] (45) Miracle - Heal/Endurance: Level 40[*] (48) Miracle - Heal: Level 40[/list]Level 10: Taunt <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (11) Range IO: Level 50[*] (11) Taunt Duration IO: Level 50[*] (40) Range IO: Level 50[*] (46) Taunt Duration IO: Level 50[/list]Level 12: Recall Friend <ul type="square">[*] (A) Interrupt Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 14: Teleport <ul type="square">[*] (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 16: Swift <ul type="square">[*] (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50[*] (17) Run Speed IO: Level 50[*] (17) Run Speed IO: Level 50[*] (40) Run Speed IO: Level 50[/list]Level 18: Health <ul type="square">[*] (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50[*] (19) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 40[*] (19) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration: Level 30[*] (21) Regenerative Tissue - Heal/Endurance: Level 30[/list]Level 20: Stamina <ul type="square">[*] (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50[*] (21) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50[/list]Level 22: Knockout Blow <ul type="square">[*] (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50[*] (23) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance: Level 50[*] (23) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge: Level 50[*] (33) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50[*] (33) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50[*] (34) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50[/list]Level 24: Mud Pots <ul type="square">[*] (A) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50[*] (25) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Damage/Slow: Level 50[*] (25) Tempered Readiness - Endurance/Recharge/Slow: Level 50[*] (31) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Slow: Level 50[*] (34) Tempered Readiness - Damage/Slow: Level 50[/list]Level 26: Brimstone Armor <ul type="square">[*] (A) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50[*] (27) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50[/list]Level 28: Rage <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Membrane Exposure[*] (29) HamiO:Membrane Exposure[*] (29) HamiO:Membrane Exposure[/list]Level 30: Maneuvers <ul type="square">[*] (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50[*] (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50[*] (31) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 40[/list]Level 32: Tactics <ul type="square">[*] (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 35: Granite Armor <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Ribosome Exposure[*] (36) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50[*] (36) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50[*] (36) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50[*] (37) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 40[/list]Level 38: Foot Stomp <ul type="square">[*] (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50[*] (39) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50[*] (39) Multi Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50[*] (39) Multi Strike - Damage/Recharge: Level 50[*] (40) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge: Level 50[/list]Level 41: Minerals <ul type="square">[*] (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50[*] (42) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50[*] (42) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 40[/list]Level 44: Crystal Armor <ul type="square">[*] (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50[*] (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50[*] (45) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 40[/list]Level 47: Handclap <ul type="square">[*] (A) Stagger - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30[*] (48) Stagger - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 30[/list]Level 49: Hurl <ul type="square">[*] (A) Maelstrom's Fury - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35[*] (50) Maelstrom's Fury - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35[/list]------------
Level 1: Brawl <ul type="square">[*] (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50[*] (42) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance: Level 50[*] (43) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge: Level 50[*] (43) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50[*] (43) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50[/list]Level 1: Sprint <ul type="square">[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 2: Rest <ul type="square">[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 1: Gauntlet
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[u]Set Bonus Totals:[u]<ul type="square">[*]+3% Defense(Smashing)[*]+3% Defense(Lethal)[*]+3% Defense(Fire)[*]+3% Defense(Cold)[*]+3% Defense(Energy)[*]+3% Defense(Negative)[*]+3% Defense(Psionic)[*]+3% Defense(Melee)[*]+3% Defense(Ranged)[*]+3% Defense(AoE)[*]+0.9% Max Endurance[*]+28% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*]+61.3% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*]+1.5% Enhancement(Slow)[*]+5% FlySpeed[*]+54.2 (4.5%) HitPoints[*]+5% JumpSpeed[*]+MezResist(Immobilize) (Mag 8.8%)[*]+MezResist(Sleep) (Mag 1.65%)[*]+4% Recovery[*]+74% Regeneration[*]+0.95% Resistance(Fire)[*]+0.95% Resistance(Cold)[*]+79.5% RunSpeed[/list]

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Official: Feedback and Suggestions for Bases!

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Suggestion for today

Expand Personal Invention Storage to be Personal Storage

<ul type="square">[*]Allow Storage of 6 enhancements[*]Allow storage of 4 recipes[*]Allow storage of 500k inf[*]Allow storage of 5 inspirations[/list]
And make the storage accesible by every character on the account please.

Superman Returns (Superman 4.0) [I8]

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Wow someone kept it alive! Awsome job.

BTW Hi to anyone still out there

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WB _Havok_!

The SuperTank! Inv/SS/Fly Build (I6)

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Very nice Vox.

/binds and Macros

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I realize that attacks etc are not really part of the equation for multiple effects from 1 bind/macro, but I believe toggling is.

I realize that changes in the language can turn on/off the wrong one etc.

Can someone show me just a basic example of turning on 2 toggles with 1 key. Say, tough and weave.

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Would take me longer to find the guide, so here it goes...

If you want to turn on two toggles with one key, you have to press the key twice...

/bind t "toggleon weave$$toggleon tough"

That should do it...

Profit

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Fix my kheld?

Fix my kheld?

Comic books - how do you get started?

Fix my kheld?

Fix my kheld?

Fix my kheld?

Consolidated Tanker Improvement Ideas

Fix my kheld?

Soft Capping +def on a fire tank?

Time to finish fixing Invulnerability

Time to finish fixing Invulnerability

Time to finish fixing Invulnerability

Time to finish fixing Invulnerability

Time to finish fixing Invulnerability

Super Strength - is Hand Clap worth taking?

Time to finish fixing Invulnerability

Let Tankers be Tankers: Remove the Agro Cap

Let Tankers be Tankers: Remove the Agro Cap

Let Tankers be Tankers: Remove the Agro Cap

FINAL VOTE - FART CHAMPION 2008

Speedy Guide to Inventions for Stone Tanks

Official: Feedback and Suggestions for Bases!

Superman Returns (Superman 4.0) [I8]

The SuperTank! Inv/SS/Fly Build (I6)

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