Prince_Recluse

I would be happy to donate/invest what I can. $15 a month just freed up so... yeah.

Also was thinking about building a private server myself, if that becomes a possibility. Please update me if it does, as I am not a Forum junkie. PrinceRecluse@gmail.com

What I really think would be the best possible outcome IMHO in a CoH death senario would be that once NCSoft closes the doors on CoH and Paragon for good (and if they don't release the code or IP), the entirety, or at least majority, of the employees of Paragon Studios form together as their own new small buisness company, and get back to work! Go under a new name (i.e. "Rogue Island Studios"... see what I did there?), and start the creation of a new, oddly similar (but just before Copyright Infringement), Super Hero game called something like "Galactic Heroes", and start taking my money again without the likes of NCSoft, seems like people like the idea of going through Valve. Apparently many people would be willing to contribute to a kickstarter, or w/e, for the creation of your new, yet similar, company. Then, we make you the Super Hero version of Blizzard or Bungie, and you go on to make even more awesome games. I had always heard that the reason a lot of requested things could never happen is because the engine the game was originally built for was too limited, and the only way to fix it would be to build a new game... Now is your chance. I love this game just as much as anyone, and more than most, and this is exceptionally devastating to me for a grab bag of reasons. Life will be forever significantly different, and not necessarily in a good way. But, if it has to end, let's make some BOMB *** lemonade out of these god-aweful, rotten, natsy, bitter lemons. In order to rebuild the game, we must rebuild Paragon Studios. Let's make City of Heroes all of what it was, but also everything it could never have been, but could have been great. Let's make the infamous City of Heroes 2!

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Sorry. At some point in there I was overcome and started talking directly to the staff over at Paragon Studios somehow. But I think the point gets across. I want more than just to keep CoH, I want to keep the wonderfully geniused people that make and maintain what it is to this day. If any other group takes CoH over, it will no longer be CoH.

Whatever happens, I am interest and down to help. Already hit up the petition.
PrinceRecluse@gmail.com

Whatever happens, your all the best people I have ever had the privileged of knowing. Know that you have my strongest wishes to be blessed by whatever it is that you hold dear or sacred. Even if I don't know you on a personal level, please believe that you will be missed.

As long as I am alive (30yrs down, ? to go) Paragon City will exist, within me. The sun will shine in Atlas Park, the waves will crash on the shores of Mercy, and the buildings of Nova Preatoria will continue to cast their shadows. The rescue effort will continue in Galaxy. And as for me... If you are looking for me, you can find me repeatedly killing 100 infected in the danger zone of Outbreak.

(Here's to CoX2!)

Ah. Fair enough. Makes sense. And now I know, which I am told is 50% of the battle. My apologies for the confusion. Thanks for being cool about my screw up and not going Ape Pancakes, which is totally bananas.

Wow.. What a thread. So many to Quote, so little time.

First off, pay my respects for the free stuff. Princess Hat, many thanks. Probably never would have bought it, but like to think I have everything in the game , so thanks for the help. Never play female toons, but just gave me an idea for new character so, thanks again.

Also, as far as one of the many tangents of the post: I agree, some people need to realize that everyone else is not a threat and to understand a joke when they read one. But on the other hand, the other side needs to remember that sarcasm, though sounding perfect in your head, does not translate well through text unless you personally know the writer.

And for condescension: No one deserves to have they're opinions condescendingly reprimanded. No matter how off base.

Now for the original purpose of this whole thread: I didn't know people were getting different things, and that it was so semi-random. I learned something. Thanks.

Free stuff is free stuff. No matter what it is, they didn't have to give it away for free at all, and just because you can't benefit from this weeks offering, doesn't mean others can't and some may actually need it. You don't have to get it and it is not like they are replacing a better "Pay-for-Item" opportunity with this "Free Item" space. There (IMHO) is no logical reason to complain about this feature what so ever. Yes, sometimes the items are not that useful and somewhat redundant. But in a years time they will be giving away 52 free items, and the offering per person is apparently random-ish so 52x(?), therefore just because a few items aren't the best or rarest item in the game, doesn't mean the whole program is a waste of time.

And agreed from previous posts: Although I too have accrued way too many team/dual insps from superpacks that I will probably never use, I will take another Revival/ XP/INF/PRST booster for free anytime, any day.

Now for the original reason for the reply near the beginning of the thread....

Ok, before I say what I am about to say, let me say this: I love this game and have no intention to stop playing anytime soon. Probably won't stop till they shut down the servers. It's the best game I have ever experienced for the past 8 years. And I praise the devs and all their hard work, adding ANYTHING to a game is no easy task.

Long Live Paragon!! (Both the studios and the city)

That having been said...

Maybe it is just me, but being a loyal subscriber for (basically) 8 years now I can't help but feel that this week's Featured Items at the Paragon Market is so lackluster and ... bleh. Don't get me wrong, I am sure the Team TP is nice, and after typing I will be clicking to purchase, but I mean... really? It is technically the first market update since the 8 year Anniversary of the game... 8 YEARS!!! That is inconceivable in video game shelf lives!! 8 Year Anniversary and all we have on the market is yet another TP power (already have Mish TP, Mish Transporter, Assemble Team, and the LFG tab for TF/Trials) that IMHO should be free for Vets at 7+ years, along with a rehashing of the Staff power set which was on market last week, and not even on Sale this week, just there.... again... And the XP boosters, which if what Freitag was saying is true, then that could be kinda neat and I have been using them wrong, but still, as it says on post "Additional Featured Item" not New. Ant then of course there is an obscure collection of things on sale, some of which upset me considering how much I paid for them. But none the less, this is the post-8th Anniversary Celebration Market! And all we really get is a Team TP? It just feels like it is missing so much.

Also, I feel the longstanding loyal VIP members of the past 8 years should be getting a little more "For your Loyalty You Can Have This Free" love, but that argument is for another thread. And for the record, I rarely get on the Forums to post, and I have been a dedicated fan since August of 2004, but I was just so let down by this weeks market "additions and sales" that I felt I HAD to get on here and say something. 8 YEARS PEOPLE!! We should be celebrating!! Hell I would be happy to see "New Item: GOLDEN Number 8 Judge Emote"! Simply the Judge emote where you hold up the Number 8 and the texture has just been changed from a white background to Gold! I would pay for that just to celebrate! Hell I have paid for everything else so far... Everything.

These may just be my opinions though. I could be the only person who felt that this week's offerings was a deflated balloon that said "Happy 8th" on it, with a picture of a longbow flyer that was partially covered up by the dirt from a boot print.

But I still love you, I am going to continue supporting you and throwing my money at you (dropped $50 last night in preparation for today's AWESOMENESS... and then this happened), and I will continue logging in and smiling. Thanks for listening to us, like always.

LONG LIVE PARAGON!

Going with B. I like the look of A, and C is unique from all the other jet pack powers and backpacks currently available. But in fairness and in keeping with the theme of "Retro", B is definitely the right look. Especially for a "Rocketeer" inspired character...

I voted for C, for the shape and style, but would be great if it had a texture and glow line like B. Almost voted for B simply for the glow line, but couldn't get over the shoulders and over-all "roundness" of the suit. I think C would look great if it was more fabric and less metal.(IMHO)

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Um... Prince Recluse, there is no "Team Recluse" it's called "Arachnos".


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... Um ... Really? After all these years, I finally understand!!!!! Could have sworn it was "Team Recluse" not "Arachnos". Guess I was wrong. .. . ... Or maybe, just maybe, It is a reference to me being "Overlord" of MY Villain Group, Team Recluse, that is a fictional branch off of Arachnos. ... Just maybe.

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But I am glad to see someone is actually paying special attention to my forum signature. Don't worry, I feel the love.

Now... Back to the Expansion.

Expect the expansion to cost $29 and $39 .... Not full price of a new game ($49) but yet not just a large booster ($9-$19). Think about it this way folks, NCSoft owns Guild Wars as well as CoX. The (Guild Wars) Factions, Nightfall, and Eye of the North Expansions cost $39. So of course the same company is gonna do the same thing with any game. Also, if you need another example, WoW. Both expansions, Burning Crusade and Wrath of Lich King started out costing $39.99. (I work at a major computer retailer).

This expansion will be a boxed edition (with online download of course) just like ALL the others so you can pretty much bet that this expansion will cost $29-$39, with a collector's edition at $10 more.

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So Praetoria might be a new starting "grey" area, or it might be a whole new city? If this is a paid expansion, I would think it will be an entire world. My bet is Praetoria is treated like a whole new world with 5-10 cities that are totally different from the ones we know. Imagine a Mercy Island that wasn't run down, but rather nice like a tourist destination....or a Skyway City completely run down and decrepid, overrun with Arachnoids.

If this is the case, you'll probably be able to enter Praetoria from either side, and do content to change your moral meter to switch sides....then head back to the real world. I'm thinking everything in Praetoria will be CoOp. Just my $.02

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Just read this. I totally agree with this theory. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Although this now creates just a few more questions.. But I think this theory of how the "New World" will be is the most logical, that I have seen.

... oh and Yes, it has been announced it will be a paid expansion, I feel pretty confident assuming the prices will be $29 and $39, for Standard and Collector's.

These are just my opinions based on the official "released" info on the Expansion.

Haven't read every post but almost all and it seems that for the most part, many people can't seem to figure out how this whole "Expasion" thing is going to work out.

This should be nothing new for the players who were here before CoV. Remember, City of Villains was an "Expansion" to City of Heroes. Many people now just assume that the 2 games are one and the same. While they "may" be copies of each other, they are both 2 separate entities. Even though they come packaged together now, they are still 2 "worlds" that interconnect. A long time ago (Happy 5 year anniversary btw) there was JUST City of Heroes, and then word came out that they were releasing an expasion, called "City of Villains", that had its own Signature Characters and "world", while still letting Villains "interact" with heroes. There were questions just like these, and it turned out quite well. In fact, the expansion worked so well with the actual "game" that the common thought became that it was just "one" game with two sides. The same will happen here, with the 2nd Expansion. There will be a "Third Side".

Consider this to be just like the release of City of Villains:
- New Common Title: "City of Heroes" Going Rogue
- New Signature Characters (including Altered Originals)
- New AT
- New Zone
- There will be multiple connections, at different levels, that access the previous parts of the game (i.e. PvP Zones, Pocket D, Arenas,etc.) in some "regulated" way.
- Use of common (same) interface and updater
- Same backgrounds and interface graphics, just with different theme (CoV had the Red with Black, I think this one will be Black with gray/silver or something like that)
- Etc.

Although I am not expecting this one to be as expansive, like having as many ATs as CoV, I expect that this will be extremely simliar to the launch of CoV. There will be a new "City", with multple zones. "Common Areas" for Heroes, Villains, and Neutrals. The only thing that is really different about the 2 expansions is the side switching. Which I am sure will be regulated in one way or another so that it is not a bother to anyone playing one of the previous games. Personally I think you will be able to enter Paragon or the Isles, based on your alignment, via some sort of Zone entrance like a contact, train, or portal. Probably a portal since you will be in an alternate world. . but

The other possibility, is a "copy" of Paragon and the Isles, but in an altered world, where you will not be interacting with the current players of CoH/V. But I feel this option is highly less likely as it will be a rather time consuming and costly waste of effort, AS WELL AS make CoH AND CoV totally obsolete, since you could play the entire game "world" from just the Expansion. But this is still a possibility.

Well at first I was ranting, but now I am pretty much just thinking out loud, so I will close it up. Basically just think of it as another City of Villains expansion, with a Morality meter.

(And I STILL think what "Alternate Statesman", or Tyrant, or whoever, says in the trailer video, is a DIRECT reference to the Devs possibily dropping the War Walls!! Even if it IS in a copy of Paragon in an alternate world.)

Please share YOUR thought and opinions about what I have said or other ideas about how this might work.

Or is it just a "Hey! Look at me! I have a really big Empire, with lots of people! YaY!"

Did anyone else even catch the "My Empire knows NO BOUNDS" statement from the trailer? Does anyone else even think it could be a reference to a lack of War Walls, or possibly servers, or ANY of the related issues people have been talking about for years?

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Anyone?

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Does anyone else suspect that they will be raising the level cap for this? I hope so! I'm certain there are lots of players that want their level 50 characters to cross to the other side.

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Been done to death, covered a bunch of times, no the level cap will not raise. Castle covered this a while back, there'd be no reason to do it. He basically said "never say never, but basically never" it's PROBABLY safe to say CoX will NEVER raise it's level cap.

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While I agree that I am afraid they will NOT be raising the level cap with this expansion, I do however believe that there will be "something" new for level 50 toons to do and achieve.