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Quote:i couldnt find the "modded I19" planner, that i guess some have been usingOriginally Posted by Mind_Games
Hi Phire, You have motivated me to make an Ice/Ice/Dark Defender, can you post your new build with the changes you made for Issue 19? Thanks again.
im assuming your dualboxing? Well, its a decent plan for a regular character i guess too
so, fitness pool was wholly omitted in this plan, including 1 slot to go to Health
Hurdle gets a 1 Jump IO
Health gets 2 slots - the NumCon:+reg/+rec & Miracle:+rec
Stamina gets 1 EndMod IO
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the only prob w/ spam-setting a power is that takes however long for the activation animation, and cuts into your attack strings. Depending on the true effectiveness of the power and what other offensive powers lacking, it may be a feasible tactic or not...f
what is WoC, like a 5ft pbaoe? To gain effectiveness, you'll need a clusternuck of mobs tightly around you. Otherwise, if you only have 2-3 mobs tight on you, players may be looking at you weird as you attempt to do chance damage vs directed damage by offense powers... -
Quote:lol, you're a maniac! Tested it and looks like chance time does reset. Used Snowstorm and IS: Chance for damage proc, was able to reset it within 10seconds....estimated around 7-8secondsOriginally Posted by Tatum
I have a question...... Proc's in toggle powers: What if you shut the Toggle on/off/on/off/on/off/on/off?
World of Confusion
Slotted:
-Contagious Confusion Proc
-Erradication Energy Dmg Proc
-Arrmagedon Fire Dmg Proc
-Malaise's Illusion Psi Dmg Proc
-Cocophony Energy Dmg Proc
-Obliteration Smash Dmg Proc
In my build with my global accuracy and recharge this power would recharge faster than it animates meaning I could toggle this every 4seconds.........
Thoughts?
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purty lavender
is there an app that can change the color of your pointer arrow? sometimes i lose mine against all the action! -
Quote:Originally Posted by prvtslacker
As this month is all about weekend fun doing shard tast force. You should remimber that this month is ...
National Squirrel Awareness Month
So lower you bird feeder so we can get in, lock up your dogs and love the squirrel.
This brought to you by Rabid and Vicious Squirrel.Quote:Originally Posted by Ashcraft
My name is Ashcraft and I approve this message.
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Quote:hmmm, good cover!Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
Caltrops affect is technically a "Fear". (The game refers to it as "Afraid"). There's two types of Fear effect in the game (3 if you count "Avoid"), Afraid, which is the one which triggers "Run Away" and Terrified, which is the "Stand and quake" effect.
Caltrops Afraid effect only lasts 1 second though, so it wears off a second after they run out of the patch (I'm not sure why it doesn't just use "Avoid" like Rain of Fire or Ice Storm).
What is happening when they continue to run, or run when hit by a DoT is their morale breaking. (maybe in the case of Caltrops the "Afraid" effect gives a higher chance of a morale break, which means they keep on running). Castle outlines it here, and a lot of players are reporting that it seems to be happening a bit too often for their liking alright. -
well, catrops have always caused scatter effect, but not fear.
Your mortar is probably causing that behavior. If its accidental programming, maybe the there's a disconnect w/ the mobs getting debuffed by an "object" instead of a player.
If it is purposeful, its to spread out those who are affected, and counter the chance of the same mobs gettind debuffed continuously by an object... alot of objects are just pbaoe... the mortar is range targeted.... -
Quote:Would be glad to help you out Witty. Its on meh 3rd day off so should be able to get up easier at least...Originally Posted by WittyLibrarian
My real-life plans for the weekend have been shot. If anyone lives in the DC area, can you please go to the March for Jobs this Saturday and tape a sign to Lincoln's forehead that reads "Witty Wuz Here!" Please and thanks.
And so, for the Sunday line-up...
Here's the Sign-up Thread for
SUNDAY OCTOBER 3rd
Dr. Quaterfield Task Force - Firebase Zulu
Start time: 11 AM Eastern (10 AM Central, 9 AM Mountain, 8 AM Pacific)
The time can change if enough players ask for a later (or earlier) start time. But make sure everyone knows about it!
All Eight Spots need to be filled to ensure the Task Force can start!
Name Level Archetype Powers @Global
1) Wittypirate 50 Defender Storm/Elec @Witty Librarian
2) DeliCate IcePHIRE 50 Def Cold/Ice/Dark @PHLRE
3) DeliKate IcePHIRE 50 Def Cold/Ice/Dark @PHIR3
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Quote:err, ive tried it before on a pair of Ice controllers, both w/ Arctic Air and World of Confusion running, both pbaoe confusion stacks. VERY hit & miss and short-lived. This was quite some time ago, so maybe they've cranked up the effectiveness. I was extremely disappointed. With some sort of proc, WoC might be something, but stand alone, its awful from my experience and testing.....Originally Posted by plainguy
I have a AR Traps full positional defense cap. I picked up world of confusion to help mitigate damage a bit more. I can see it working a bit.. I only have it one slotted atm for endurance. But at 50 I have 3 more IO placements left. I can either slot for additional recharge or I can use the 3 slots and put them in world of confusion if I can get better results out of it. Assuming someone knows first hand I will. I know some powers sometimes are just not worth slotting more then 1 or 2 IOs in it. I just don't know if World of Confusion is one of them.
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Quote:lmao - dood, just what is happening is making me laugh so hard. I know it was all unintentional. The funny thing is, for the short time i got back in (like a week) this is the most defender forum activity ive seen lol. I SO swear that the Defender forum was dead. The Offender topic just attracted and sucked everyone back into interest. The sad thing is, the some threads in the Archetypes & Powers are lamenting about the LACK of Defender AT's, and how much they are in demand these days lol....Originally Posted by maxtsorm
Yeah I have duel builds on my corruptors. 1 solo build and 1 team build. If I have that roll on a team then the team comes first. Always played my healers that way.
Like I said though just curious about it.
Errrr, whether you consider yourself as a Defender or an Offender, PLAY your AT. You in demand!
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Quote:thanx for the inherent update - wasnt aware of that since i'd been gone for 7 months...Originally Posted by je_saist
a couple issues ago the Defender inherent Negligence was reworked into Vigilance. In addition to the endurance discount when team-mates are loosing health, Defenders now get a 30% base damage boost when solo, a 20% damage boost when duo'd, and a 10% damage boost when tripled. With a team of 4 players or more, Defenders receive no damage bonus.
The change now actually does place the Defender ranged damage output at medium when compared to the Blaster's ranged damage rating of high. The damage boost now makes soloing Defenders a far less painful experience.
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The term offender has been in use for far longer than the Inherent power change. Offender, for the most part, was used to refer to a player who sacrificed powers for team-mates in favor of powers for themselves. For example:- An Empath without Heal Other, Absorb Pain, Clear Mind, Fortitude, or Adrenalin Boost.
- A sonic without Sonic Barrier, Sonic Haven, Disruption Field, or Clarity
- A Cold Dom without Ice Shield, Glacial Shield, or Frostwork
Now, I'm not going to make any calls on whether or not playing a Defender as a damage class is a good idea. There's a reason the attacks are a secondary set.
I would recommend that if you want to attempt to play a Defender for damage, you go with Cold Dom / Ice Blastfor the strong debuffs, opportunities to rack up on recharge buffs, and hard-controls.
I would also recommend that you keep a dual-build handy with the team-oriented powers ready.
lol, unknowingly stepped into a bear-trap. Now all this debate, subjective idealism and interepretation of what an "Offender" is, will all seep out. This WAS buried at some point...Quote:Originally Posted by maxtsorm
Yeah I have duel builds on my corruptors. 1 solo build and 1 team build. If I have that roll on a team then the team comes first. Always played my healers that way.
Like I said though just curious about it.
sorry, im not ashamed because i dont share your viewpoint.Quote:Originally Posted by Tatum
Shame on you Phire =( Ok so maybe I took a few months off from the forums here and there. When did "Offender" become a derogatory term? I've been a forum lurker longer than poster and I've played on and off since i2. "Offender" has always ment a Defender maximized for offense..... period. Never have I heard of an Offender being refered to one who gimps thier own primary. Old school Offenders were Kin/Psi, Kin/Rad, Rad/Psi, Rad/Rad, and Storm/Ice. When the newer sets came along Kin/Archery and the biggest one of all Rad/Sonic. You Phire, my friend are a Offender (Cold/Ice) and a wonderful example of one if I do say so myself.
I guess the stories were true the Defender forums eat thier own =(
ok ok, lets not get too bi-polared and extremist in our views lol. Obviously you have your interpretation and i have mine. The silly thing, we all had argued about WHO's definition is right lol....
D3's became a noticeable "offender" (ive got a pair too!) because of their solo ability w/ the strongest toggle debuffer DN, stack that w/ Tar Patch and Soul Drain. Others started to try to squeeze more offense out of the defenders and possibly dropping their support structure. There were a few posters so radical that they literally left their primary empty, in attempts to compensate their performances vs Blasters. Come on, what self-respecting defender is gonna complain about a blaster out-offensing you? Yet, the select few radicals kind of gave "Offenders" a bad rap cuz they seemed to be the loudest, in the most obnoxious ways.
IMO, a defender (and any other player playing an AT) will still yearn and push their offense through their support, and possibly maximize it w/o sacrificing key support powers. This is still a DEFENDER for pete's sake, imo. Nothing wrong in making the most out of your offensive powers.
IMO, a defender investing heavier in their "Secondary" set or even sacrificing key Primary powers in order to be more offensively off-balanced, is an OFFENDER.
Now this isnt all bad, either. It DOES get bad when a bad "OFFENDER" seeks acceptance and pushes his build in a Defender forum, when the general core of players who play defenders, play defenders as a support character, in principle.....
I dont consider myself as an "Offender". Maybe the "Offenders" do in their viewpoint - im fine with that. And it just may show the difference of our definitions.
This weekend, i finally flipped Aim into Frostwork - still became a real pain in the *** respec.
As in power choices in Primary & Secondary -
ALL primary powers selected
Ice Bolt, Ice Blast, Ice Storm, & Blizzard are the only Secondary powers.
Just saying that im not really that offensively invested thru Secondary
In the end, its up to the player to dictate how their character is gonna be worked out. Everyone has ownership over their different playing style and setup. Just dont expect approval from another because they have their own ideals -
Quote::POriginally Posted by _Force_
Well that just totally foils our strategies for future CoPs.
Time to hang up the blue and move on.
Yes ladies and gents, it was a good run.
Sadly, since we relied quite heavily on nukes we now won't be able to... to..
Hey, wait a minute.
congratz no not having to use nukes
what? AV is suppose to be broken or something?
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Hbd!!!!!!!
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Quote:errrr.... if there is a later night one, i would be interested in joining that. Both TFs are at 7am my time, even though i have those days off, i work the nightshift. Definitely not a morning person....Originally Posted by prvtslacker
Force is talking at 8am, pst (I think even PHIR3 is afraid of that one). Cherry would be starting around 8pm.
Cherry:
Kitty is wanting to do it and going to have to find a baby sitter for her baby (Kid always wakes up when she tries to play the game - Plan for her to need 2 spots). -
Quote:lol, i end up spending a 1/2hour resetting the fracking powerbars. Dont ya think there should be a client-side note made for your power bars? I believe there are client-side notepads done to save your options, including some affecting your GUI, costumes, and your character lineup in server.Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
my dark/stone brute will prolly stay unchanged as i am content with his current build (if i did change him i would pick up a few LOTG mules for some extra rech)
my earth/fire/fire dom will definitly respec to get some LOTG mules then ill be able to hit 140% rech with no hasten
as for other toons ill have to look through and see if it would be a major improvment or if i want to bother, cause i absolutely hate how after a respec it throws your power bars in disarray and the current respec system is a little...clunky to put it nicely
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Quote:hahahahah, good pointOriginally Posted by Sailboat
I'm finally respeccing out of Vigilance, since Stamina as inherent largely replaces it.
Wait...what?
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ohhhhhh, good grief! Not the "Offender" debate again! lol
errr, in a nutcase, generally someone trying to squeeze as much offense out of a defender as much as possible, in the meantime abandoning the strength of the primary to an extent....
These days you can have an Offender, hero side. Its called a Corruptor.... you'll wanna roll one if you want to be a true offensive version of a defender.... -
Wow, this will cause a retweaking of ALOT of toonz for everyone lol....
might not affect many MM's though
those who sell respec recipe's just MIGHT want to hold them till a day after i19!
The problem with basically gaining 3 more power choices is that there's still gonna be the same amount of power slots! So its a double-edged sword for those who got their build set in stone!
for my cold/ice/dark defenders, new pickups will be -
1. Tactics, shave off SnowStorm's (IS: Chance damage & End IO) End IO slot to double up End for Tactics. Tactics will be constantly running, unlike SS
2. Infrigidate - shave a slot off of 3slotted Health(filled w/ uniques), and bump the +Regen into Frostwork, 1slotted. Use slot to 2slot Infrigidate w/ 2 ACC IOs
3. Resuscitate - great to be a rezzing Cold Defender. Adds another dimension to the support role. Easy as 1-slotted recharge -
Quote:lol, afraid to stick names on either rosters!Originally Posted by prvtslacker
Force is talking at 8am, pst (I think even PHIR3 is afraid of that one). Cherry would be starting around 8pm.
Cherry:
Kitty is wanting to do it and going to have to find a baby sitter for her baby (Kid always wakes up when she tries to play the game - Plan for her to need 2 spots).
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heh, thats a great thought...
on the other extreme - meh shields are PINK! So all the tough guys are stuck with pink ice around them! Most dont mind, but once in a bit you'll get a chat comment like.... You've gotta be Kidding me! hahahahah
trying to get them as translucent as possible is a very practical thought also.... less distracting colors onscreen and possibly less work for the videocard -
Quote:actually, thats very true, and answers to the core dynamics of this game. This is greatly enhanced further by Going Rogue and with the intermingling of the heroes and villains.Originally Posted by Krogoth
Repeat After Me
No AT has ever been needed for anything in this game.
What ive seen, for the short time i got back in, is some team leaders picking up villains over heroes, since villains are inherently more offensive and less defensive than heroes, as how the powerset primaries and secondaries dictate. Since alot of advanced characters have established defenses for themselves, they can get away with lesser of a defensive scheme as a team overall and get away with it, as long as there's a key support player. Just like a Brute should turn out to be an excellent tanker w/ a shield/cold buff on him from defender/corruptor.
Stand alone, ive seen brutes faceplant out kind of easy in real tough situations, but ive also seen some top players w/ seriously IO'd brutes stand strong in situations where even an average tank would drop. And maybe teams will be picking corruptors over defenders to squeeze in more offense and still get the defender buffs/debuffs, in secondary form. After some time, devs may do some slight adjustments if things get too off-balanced in AT selecting. -
Quote:rawr!!!Originally Posted by star_fire
i have gone 3 times now and none of the groups completed it. I don't care how many times i die; i want to complete that tf!
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and super big congrats to you guys for taking him down!
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Quote:I DEEPLY APPROVE OF THIS POST......Originally Posted by _Force_
HAAAY!!!
Wasn't this done with what you'd call a Pick up Group? Meaning there was not an optimal amount of ATs doing optimal amounts of awesome?
So it was done without nukes/temps?
Is that really possible?
Hey hold right there.
Were Hax used?
Really I don't understand how this was accomplished.
Should we have quit before we started since we faced the Stormie?
Shouldn't we have stopped and gotten a slew of temps and nukes?
Should we have gotten a certain exact set of builds and ATs?
Whoa whoa.
It wasn't needed?
All we needed was coordination?
All we needed was good tactics?
No, no way.
Oh *** son.
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Quote:ohhhh, thats how you do it Joel!Originally Posted by _Force_
I guess I'll start us off by Signin' up the right way.
Here's the Sign-up Thread for
SATURDAY OCTOBER 2nd
Dr. Quaterfield Task Force - Firebase Zulu
Start time: 11 AM Eastern (10 AM Central, 9 AM Mountain, 8 AM Pacific)
The time can change if enough players ask for a later (or earlier) start time. But make sure everyone knows about it!
All Eight Spots need to be filled to ensure the Task Force can start!
Name Level Archetype Powers @Global
1) Force of Oblivion -50- Corr - Fire/Cold - @Force
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i'd be interested to be on either sat or sun DQTF
DeliCate IcePHIRE lv50 Cold Domination/Ice Blast/Dark Mastery Defender
DeliKate IcePHIRE lv50 Cold Domination/Ice Blast/Dark Mastery Defender
IF im taken into consideration, i wont mind being bumped around between the two TFs to accomodate room for others in case one day gets filled up heavy, prior to the start of either