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Yup, very quick once we got started. Cheers.

Hehe, I have tried both, it's fun as a kin, but I can do more damage with Aim and Build up and a nuke alone on a Blaster than I can capped out on my Kinetic defender with FS, and I can also sort my endurance out afterwards in much the same way with Power Sink or Consume.

The only real advantages you have as a Kinetic defender is how often you can nuke, and if you take one of the "defender" sets you also get a very useful secondary effects which is buffable with Power Build up (ie. the hold on Atomic Blast and the stun on Deadful Wail).

And you will not convince me that scattering them all over the place is more useful than either of those.

The best option for me is a blaster teamed with a kinetic, Wyx teamed with one for a looong time, she liked it a lot.

If someone is holding aggro for you, Inferno is safer than Nova by a wide margin in my opinion. The danger in nuking is in the time it takes to get in to mele and fire the animation, that's when you're vulnerable to AOE attacks etc and you can manage that to a large extent by positioning. After you've used it you can be out of there immediately if you want to. At that stage I find it a lot safer to have the aggro contained where it was before, particularly if it's a Tanker managing it, than to have several angry bosses/maybe luitenents scattered around a room looking for someone to take it out on.

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Stalkers arent meant to be manly, thats why my stalker is a grrl

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A grrl? On teh intarweb? Surely not!

Thanks to everyone who turned up, we ended up with two full teams, everyone got the full set of badges on at least one toon, with some of us picking up most of them on a second.

Brilliant coordination from my team all evening - not used to doing things via typing rather than teamspeak and was a bit worried that I might struggle, but really it couldn't have gone much better - we even had a few cheeky SR stalkers to liven things up for us a bit.

Apologies if I was a little slow on the buffs with my kinetic, was doing far too much typing to keep up with an 8 person team.

Given how much fun this was, and I know a few folks really wanted to get these but couldn't make it, I'll probably organise another bash at this some time in the new year. I need them for Wyx still.

Wanders off to look at Buffem's shiny badges.

Hehe, the only really scantily clad character I ever made was a Fire Tanker I had for quite a long time.

I made her costume extremely similar to a female singer who's name has just totally dribbled out my ears, used to prance around in stage in a mini-skirt and top-hat. After all, you don't want your Tanker to struggle to get attention.

Having said that, despite the mini-skirt and fairly skimpy clothing, there were certainly no body parts visible. Just not my thing I guess.

One of very few characters I ever used to RP with people I didn't know as well, back when I was playing on Victory, a surprising number of people used to respond quite well to her - I'm always a bit dubious playing a flirt on the internet, even if you do it well and think you're being quite obvious it's the character that's talking not the person behind the keyboard, there's still often people who just don't understand that - the reception was almost always pretty good. I think I kept the character for as long as I did because I enjoyed playing her for that reason, it certainly wasn't because I enjoyed the power sets I had, I3 Fire Tankers were dreadfully dull to play.

I can't really imagine getting away with the same sort of behaviour in a lot of the pick up teams I play in on now though. I have a feeling it would really be misconstrued. I'm almost tempted to remake the character and try it to see what happens.

The ones that amuse me are the 6 foot tall women with almost no clothes and backbreaking breasts. Myself and Terra amused ourselves watching the young (sort of 7-10 year old) boys at the Memorabillia event in Birmingham making their heroes, they all looked a bit like that, I seem to recall us discussing how dissapointed they were going to be when they finally got through puberty and realised that real women just don't come in those kind of shapes.

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it's whichever is longer, a yard or a foot

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Kids these days, honestly.

A yard is longer than a foot.

I find it depends on the zone. Not many characters have plus perception powers at lower level. Bloody Bay particularly is very biased towards Stalkers, Sirens to a lesser extent - although two people teamed who both have Tactics at level 30 can do extremely well in there. In the higher level zones more characters have plus perception powers and the bias switches somewhat, and you see a better mix of villain character types.

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Everything has an achilles heal

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Giggles

Best typo I've seen in ages.

The second accuracy in your nuke is pretty much redundant (personally I wouldn't have put the dam/acc HO in there either, it's be of better use in another attack that really needs an accuracy check). With aim and build up and the high accuracy of the nukes anyway, your pretty much at the tohit cap. With no accuracy slotting in any of my nukes at all I have no accuracy problems at all, and they run at around 95% accuracy which is as good as it gets. Slotting 3/3 on damage and recharge works absolutely fine, as long as you're using aim and build up immediately before hand.

'grats Standoff.

Wyxie whispers "the Kinetic next, the Kinetic next."

Sorry, I guess I assumed the context would have been blindingly obvious, since I also talked about going over that to hit the actual damage cap as well.

Blasters, if I recall correctly off the top of my head, cap out self buff wise at around 360% including base damage, aim, build up and three damage SOs. If I'm not being buffed damage wise I normally use a red or two to put myself at around the 400% mark when nuking - or alternately just precede with an AOE like Fireball or Ball Lightning. Given the higher base damage as well, and the fact that even without any inspirations we can get close to the Kheldian damage cap, I'm confident Blaster nukes do more damage.

If there's a Kinetic there as well then I'll cap, and damage capped Inferno is still going to outdamage anything else in the game in terms of big bangs.

I am extremely sceptical that this is the case when fighting at the sort of level you normally would in a team - ie +3s/+4s. I have never seen a Kheldian Nuke be anything more than an annoyance at that sort of level unless the mobs are either locked down, or extremely heavily debuffed for resistance.

Even Inferno needs outside help on top of Aim and Build Up to take out +4 Luitenents, in the form of inspirations, Fulcrum Shift, or maybe a Fireball as well on some mob types, depending on resistances of course.

I have to say I don't think of Blizzard as a nuke, much as I do like the power.

It was a bit of a letdown at first after Inferno and Thunderous Blast, but I do really like it now. My Ice/Ice build is extremely slow orientated though. About as much as it realistically could be without being silly.

My favourite nukes are Inferno for raw damage, and Atomic Blast for all round usefulness as a Defender nuke. The hold on it is excellent even without slotting for it, with FS I can kill +3 minions, but not the luitenents unless there's some pretty good resistance debuffage going on, so them being properly held afterwards is very nice.

Least favourite nukes would be Nova, particularly Defender version, and the Kheldion ones, which would be more rightly termed "scatter stuff around the room making it very angry without actually killing anything much".

I'm a snob when it comes to things like this, I just can't help it.

'grats on your first 50 Amber.

Thoroughly enjoyed the teams we had going today as well.

Sorry for the abrupt departure, CoH appears to be giving my machine a hard time today, crashed again. I was going to try and persuade Ohms to celebrate with a display of synchronised Rise of the Pheonix, but the whole thing just froze up on me.

Mmmmmmm, nukes.

Hehe, I'll be on again in a bit, will come give you a hand.

Can play one of the 50s or that Ice Controller, up to you really.

Edit: This is definitely on the condition you promise not to TP smack bang in front of any more groups of +3s.

Having chatted to the SG, 8pm Sunday is looking good, meeting in the entrance to Recluses Victory.

The second tanker is good news, hope you can make it with the Blaster Coile, I could still really use Rads, in fact Defenders or Controllers of any sort would be extremely helpful.

Power Build up can be combined with both Short Circuit and Transferrance one after the other, boosting the drain on both.

So for drain, on Kin/Elec, you'll get more milage out of Power. It also does lots more as well as just boost your drain, it's all round an excellent power. Added to which Total Focus is significantly better than Thunder Strike, due to the bloody great stun on it.

Cool.

Up to about 9 in total now. Still lacking either a second Taunting Tanker or Ill Controller with PA, and could definitely do with at least one more Rad.

(FYI Ghost Widow does a PBAoE unresistable hold, hence my desire to have a Tanker held in reserve incase the main one decides to take a quick nap mid fight. )

I use BFR as an opener in boss fights.

Slotted 2 acc/1 hold, used at the start of a fight on a boss I can hold a boss from range with that combined with Freeze Ray, and then keep them held with a combination of Freeze Ray and Freezing Touch both of which I have more heavily slotted. I prefer to hold a boss from range initially rather than having to close to land my second hold where possible, so I rate is as worth it just for how simple it makes dealing with higher level bosses.

I wouldn't invest many slots in it because of the animatino time and certainly wouldn't consider it worth slotting for damage, but still like the power.

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thursday at 7 sounds good for me - i'm not sure what has good synergy with kin though. energy or electricity for concept perhaps.. hmm!

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Electricity works well with Kinetics, you can get some pretty good endurance drain going on. Energy doesn't really, as ideally for Kinetics you want the bad guys to be grouped, and near you. Knockin' 'em all over the place will probably leave you swearing at yourself.

This is a tentative post to gague interest. I've about 6 or 7 wanting to do these already for the shiny badges, we've done a couple the other evening, but didn't really have the right character mix/enough firepower to take out the Ghost Widow/Captain Mako combination.

I am thinking about arranging a trip in to RV over the weekend at some point to get these (we will obviously redo the ones that some of us already have so that anyone coming along could get all the badges), it would be particularly useful to get a Rad defender or /Rad controller, and a second Tanker, but really anyone who wants the badge and is willing to come along and bash stuff.

I haven't set a time yet because I'm still checking with the SG, but Sunday evening is looking likely. Please shout here or drop me a PM if you're up for this, and if it looks viable I'll sort a time out over this coming weekend.

Cheers,

Wyx

I just wish I'd had record going on teamspeak when the Mitos had spawned at 10%. It went something like (Terra "So, what happens if he's not held then?" (Me) "That would be a very bad thing" (Ohms)"Ooooh [censored]".

If you do anything like this again, I am fairly certain a lot of OV's controllers would come and help from word go if asked. I know very few go to public raids because when they have in the past, they've been extremely frustrating (although the one last Friday wasn't too bad to be fair).

Cheers for the invite at the end, I guess I'll leave Wyx and Buffem to fight it out over who gets the Dam/Range and see who wins.