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Quote:GI Joe has taken many forms and story lines, each has a different set of lore, I find it funny that someone would be upset that this latest movie also had its own lore.As a hardcore fan of the original GI Joe series/comic, I have to say that this movie was the worst GOD-AWEFUL thing I have ever seen. 99% of the story was "original" had had nothing to do with the original series. If they took away every name of the Joes and Cobra, you'd think this was any other mildly entertaining action movie.
Now, believe me, I LOVE the original story of GI Joe vs Cobra. But this thing was so the opposite of the original series, it made my stomach knot up.
SPOILER ALERT *Do not read past here if you don't want to know...*
My belief: If you are going to 'recreate' something as iconic as GI Joe, don't [censored] on the fans that grew up with it. Don't make us feel like the hours we spent, immersing ourselves in their world, was wasted. Don't make us leave, scratching our head, thinking "Cobra Commander and the Baroness are brother and sister? Wait, the Commander is a doctor too? When the [censored] did that happen?"
I think that this movie set back GI Joe from what it should have been. Now it's just a laughing stock, take the money and run, box office manure pile!
Oh, by the way... Cobra Commander ALWAYS WORE A MASK... ALWAYS!!
Television
* G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero
* G.I. Joe Extreme
* G.I. Joe: Resolute
Films
* G.I. Joe: The Movie
* G.I. Joe: Spy Troops
* G.I. Joe: Valor vs. Venom
* G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra
Comic books
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King Features Syndicate
Private Breger
WW2
From 1941 to 1945
Mister Breger
Civilian Life
1945-1960's
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Yank, the Army Weekly
WW2 based on Private Breger
G.I. Joe
1942 to 1945,
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Ziff-Davis
during the Korean War.
G.I. Joe (vol 1)
1950
G.I. Joe (vol 2)
1951
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DC Comics
Showcase
1964-1965
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Custom Comics
America's Moveable Fighting Man
1967 Hasbro
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The Adventures of G.I. Joe
1969 to 1976 Hasbro
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Marvel Comics
A Real American Hero (Main series)
Released to go with the relaunch of GI Joe toys and the TV Cartoon, the lore was different from the TV show, but the names where the same.
2001 Reissue
G.I. Joe Yearbooks
The four Yearbooks 1985-1988
G.I. Joe: Special Missions
different lore again
G.I. Joe: Order of Battle
Different lore again, with added contradictions
G.I. Joe Special
new art
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G.I. Joe and the Transformers
different lore
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Action Force and G.I. Joe: European Missions
very different lore, some what closer to the new movie.
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Blackthorne Publishing
different lore
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Dark Horse Comics
different lore
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Devil's Due Publishing
G.I. Joe A Real American Hero (Reinstated)
Different Lore and follow up on Marvels lore
G. I. Joe: Battle Files
G.I. Joe: Frontline
Arashikage Showdown
G.I. Joe: Master and Apprentice I & II
G.I. Joe: America's Elite
Storm Shadow
Data Desk Handbook
The Hunt for Cobra Commander
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Special Missions - hasbro
* Manhattan
* Tokyo
* Antarctica
* Brazil
* The Enemy
Declassified - hasbro
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* Dreadnoks: Declassified -
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Alternate universes -All different lore
G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers
Dreamwave Productions
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G.I. Joe Reloaded
Devil's Due
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G.I. Joe: Sigma 6
Hasbro
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Dreamwave Productions
Transformers/G.I. Joe
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G.I. Joe
IDW Publishing
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I love my Job; I took my client to see it.
For me the action was goodout of 4
the acting was, the story was pure Saturday morning, and the changes to the lore is ok since its a movie.
However, at the end, Cobra Commander needed a better look IMO, and Destro just worked even with the flaws i.e. ears. Moreover, lets just say for seeing the Ninth Doctor being Evil is "Wonderful" (in northern English accent).
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Quote:Umm hmmm, so you think that Lord Inquisitor Sztloth Tiburon of the Ordo Malleus is a good guy because he takes cats away from Magic Users and places them in no kill shelters?Helping the kitten or bringing the kitten to a shelter or rescuing the kitten from getting killed... is NOT villainous.
So...any of the above = wimpy villain.
Of course this is only my villainous opinion.
Your ideas may vary based on mileage.
BDD
Let me tell you about the last time Tiburon "rescued" a cat. it was last Thursday, while investigating the corruption of magic in Paragon City he saw a girl of 18-19 dressed all in black heading to the super market, I think it was a Krogers. Needless, he sent a minion to watch what she was buying for she was dressed like a witch. When she bought red wine, salt, and candles, He knew she was a witch. He and his death squad fallowed her to her home where a group of women all dressed in black where having some sort of gathering, using high resolution imaging devices he found that they were getting ready to do some magic circle of summoning. Before they could start he ordered the attack killing almost everyone but after the slaughter he found a cat and some kittens in one of the bedrooms and dropped them off at the no kill shelter. The next morning the Paragon Time had the following News Article.
“Mass Murder at a suburban slumber party 9 killed 2 critically injured:good guy?
survivors says a military squad attacked them while doing ‘light as a feather’”
Actually He believes he is, by killing off magic users he is trying to save mankind from the evils of magic, sworn to kill all Worshipers of all false gods, in D&D terms Lawful Good. -
since some of my heroes are not really heroes and some of my villains are not really villains I will just list my top Characters
Mariel Martog: looks at it and cast a good fortune spell on it
Inquisitor Tiburon Ordo Malleus: Regularly rescues Cats and and kittens and takes them to No Kill shelters (some times he may destroy a group of magic users before he does this)
Irken/Evil Irken: runs away and hides, he hasn't figured out Cats and thinks they are an alien race also bent on conquoring the human race one woman at a time.
Malkavian Who: will pick it up pet it then go and watch T.V. while petting it (even if its in a shopping mall.)
Kontrol Faktor = "In Komunist Russia we took Kare of our Kats. Give them Vodka and Salmon"
Racheal May Winter : "aahh does putty wanta home?" (she being a crew member on a Space Pirate Ship that has hundreds of cats on it, because of her)
Bhump : a Space Pirate Amazon Ninja Catgirl and Captain of the ship Racheal is on: "Racheal put the cat down and don't bring another kitten on my ship I can't hardly walk in there anymore, and please for the sake of Bastet change the litter box" -
Kontrol Faktor 1-11
Racheal May Winter 1-25
Bhump 1-25
Malkavian Who 30-42
Evil Irken 11-42
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As the original poster once said City of Heroes Had some Issues, and the person behind Statesman would answer in ways that were not always pleasing.
My roommate and I went to some Con here in L.A.. We wanted to see him and ask him some questions, and to see if he would sign his "hero click" which he did. this was around when Villains was first announced.
My roommate and I had some serious questions for him.
Sadly, my memory is not perfect so these are not direct quotes.
Roommates’ question:
“I would like to revisit past mission arcs solo with my level 50?”
Statesman’s answer:
“We have the Side Kick system for that, and you can always role another character to try the different content, we don’t feel any single character should be able to solo all the content.”
Recent Answer:
Ouroboros
((Side note this was a major reason why we ended up playing WOW as much as we did))
My Question
“I was wondering if about major body changes, so when you doing heroic things you where one body type, and when you where not you could be someone very different ((my reason for asking was I had already come up with my Character “Malkavian Who?” …))
Statesman’s Answer:
“Your Character is already in their Secrete Identity and there is no need for that kind of change.”
Recent Answer:
Mad Scientist Pack
Not sure who asked but I know several folks from these very forums where there, like smersh..
“What about City of Heroes on a Mac?”
Statesman’s Answer
/em sarcastic look “we have no plans for making City of Heroes compatible with Apple”
Recent answer
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Honestly AE didn't do it, but these forums Might
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The Legion of the Dammed
Super group on Virtue
I made the group about four years ago, never really tried to get members, but that is going to Change today, with the vast amount of new players that have gained levels, due to the AE I have realized that maybe now it is time to fill the ranks.
What is the Idea behind the legion of the Dammed? Well basically its a RP guild for Alts at the moment.
But what I will try and do is build an all purpose Guild with a theme. The theme is basic, former villains, poorer less flashy heros, social outcasts, anyone who for one reason or another just doesnt have it easy being good, but they do good in spite they really should be an evil villain. You can get a hold of me @Mariel_Martog and ask about joining.
Name: Legion of the Dammed
Currently Recruiting: Passive Recruitment, if you want in your in.
RP Level: the Idea is full time RP, but really lets see who joins before its set in stone.
PvP Level: same as above, I like PVP but havent done much in COX
Theme/Concept: out casts who should be evil, but are not.
Activity: right now just 3 members, with about 10 alts .
Requirements for Membership: -an interest in joining, even if its to park an alt, only thing I dont want are folks who are not nice to others ((ooc)) the Idea is if youre a well known RPr who wants to hide on an alt while having fun this would be a good choice.
Leadership: Mariel Martog, Rachael May Winter,
In-Game Contact(s): @Mariel_Martog
Out-of-Game Contact(s): Me
URL: I made one long ago its there on guild portal, but I need to dust out the cobwebs
Coalition(s): If any it would be Guardian Angels, but it would be informal at the moment (Mariel is technically a member of that group kind of like green lantern is both justice league and Lantern Corps.)
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Hello, I know no one actually tries them for any thing but boss farming, but if you want something different, with a story then look Up @Mariel_Martog and take a trip to the 40k universe.
the story is how an Ordo Malleus Inquisitor came to Paragon City.
it has 5 parts
Parts 1 and 2 are battles being won By Chaos. the maps used are city maps, the villains are all Lieutenants and are rather hard to battle. but the objectives are easy.
Parts 3 and 4 are ship board and are extremely hard.
and the final mission is in Paragon City facing a super-powered and fairly well know Police officer.
I hope someone has what it takes to try this Mission.
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Quote:here's a fun one, try and RP a lawful Good Villain....Quote:
Some people lack self control when RPing. Could also be an age thing as older people tend to understand the reality of matters, in your example they were unable to comprehend cause and effect.
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since 2004 I have had an alt based on a jhonen vasquez character His Name on Virture was The Ireken, I love my little Green Fire/Bubble controller. and he is an *****, made for many very funny RP sessions I even had him in my sig... but now look what I had to type!!! since when was ***** a naughty word? i understand ****, ****, *******, *******, cumguzzler, ***, ****
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I really need some feed back on this mission, I need to know how it plays for others.
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My frustration comes from the RP snobs who think that their way of RP is the ONLY way. I've actually had a person * add emo / goth / vampire sulking freak in a black duster here * ask me "Are you trying to RP me ? If so you must address me by my correct title blah blah blah" ( ok genius, if we're RPing how would I know what your "title" IS if we've never met .. Hmmm??? ) . . . RP is a completely individual thing, like conversation, sure we all do it, but we all have our little twist on it.
Forget for a moment that I've played pen and paper RPGs since the late 70s. Forget that I've played nearly all the major MMOs @ one point or another, the real issue is with CoH in particular.
The types of people that RP in this game are pretty much social deviants as near as I can tell. Virtue in particular is a breeding ground for this type of behavior. I've been playing CoH since closed Beta. The first year was a great time on Virtue. We had HEROES * GASP ! * not vamps and devils and "DETHGAWD" the hero ?!? C'mon.
Half the battle of RP is immersion. It's tough when this game has gone so far from "heroes" that we, who actually play a character that resembles a hero and acts as a hero are the exception, not the rule.
The population is small enough on all the servers that they should just create a Goth server, and allow a free transfer to it for all the folks that think that is what CoH is. I'd love to have my game back.
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hello I had to comment, ((sorry on my net book so there may be some errors in grammer and spelling))
I too have played most MMO's and many Pre-MMO ((MUDS)) I have also done WOD LARP, and as for pen and papper Cyberpunk, AD&D, and I am currently DM'ing a 4th ed. Game set in my rather unusual world.
I also started in the 1st year, however I was not on Beta, and was one of the 1st Vampire characters on Virtue,
((ok now that we have my referances))
(Mariel was based on my Favorite AD&D character who got cursed with Vampirism, I tweaked it a little to fit with the 7 other Vampires on the server at the time and Made her more WOD at the time.)
i was not filled with this games Lore, and from what i saw very few at the time where, needless the RP wasn't ERP, it was everywhere, and I realy liked the club before the D. right around the end of the 1st year when I got to lvl 50 i started to play a lot of WOW, but to have fun in that game you have to grind, and I got tired of non stop grinding and then raiding at set time set day every week. it started to feel like work, so i came back, and though I have had a lot of fun, and even got a fun alt back in the new version of my old guild, I have yet to find any RP even with my old freinds from long ago who may talk and chat ((OOC with me on the global channel, I haven't seen any RP except in the D, and we all Know whats going on there...
so to my point yes the RP here has turned in to verbal foreplay at the D, and I'm sure that somewhere people are doing good story telling but the vaste majority of RP'ers are now just playing the game. and this game still holds a lot of fun in that esp.. with all the new things they have added and are still adding.
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as for the goth thing, been goth since 1989, ran a goth/industrial night club at one point, and as i near 40 years i am still as goth as i was at 18, its a sub-culture and a way of life that is differant than the norm, but has been around as long as people... if i had time i would show the historic perspective, as for EMO, its not a full subculture, how ever it has been around a very long time just like goth, and there is even some overlap in music, fashion and other things, the one Major differance and as far as I can tell the only differance is the attitude, a goth may cut herself with a razor blade, and so will the EMO but the goth was doing it for the Art, the EMO for the pain... the differance is very subtle but its major. -
4. You can make a funny character, if you can be funny
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such is life, I need to rp more but when i show up i usually am Ignored, but then that be the good ol Pocket D, if you not an EMO Cat Girl Vampire, then you'll never get RP...not there anyway.
I should make a Space Pirate Amazon Ninja Catgirl and head to Pocket D and find out what all the fuss is about. ((edit:warning Her Name Is Bhump, a rebuild on a Alt I made long ago by hitting random and named by smashing my head to a keyboard, don't ask...and Caios can verify that happened.)) -
Gratz, I am shoocked you look the same as you did 4 years ago.
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Wow. Another one of these. Ugh.
AE is a great tool and gives you some really cool abilities. I was getting fed up with the same crap we would normally see and now I can make my own or try and find someone else's cool creation.
Currently AE is being abused but I am sure anything new will be exploited as much as possible. It's a new toy - let the novelty wear off and maybe things will return to 'normal'
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Heck I remember when it was Werewolf runs for the farmers, I do miss being able to have a tank heard a zone and kill then in seconds...
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on the grounds of good taste I shall not clap my hand, but I shall, snap my fingers, brake your neck...
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The Director, Mr. E.W. jr. (based on a character played by Johnny Depp) has lost control of his studio. I
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Ed Wood Jr. was a real person, not just a character Depp played. The movie was based on a book about his life called "Nightmare of Ecstasy".
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The Director, Mr. E.W. jr. (based on a character played by Johnny Depp) has lost control of his studio. It seems the movie monsters have taken over.
((I have created a Mission that is silly and hopefully entertaining. I did an original which is easily solod and a remake on a bigger map which is meant to be challenging for a team. The second part is a rave with a AV the ravers will kick the butt of the monsters you just need to get the AV and then party, and beware the rave is strangely lacking in females but then the rave is for actors, producers, and directors. To find it look it up by my global @Mariel_Martog I have been tweaking it a lot, changing the power sets ect. So I would like feedback, and if a Spanish speaker could check the grammar of the remake, since it is meant to be a studio in México. Thank you for your consideration.))
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edit: on the remake I was thinking of running it up to a 50+ but I don't want it used for farming. so right now its sits at 20+. -
For me I see lots of new blood coming in since AE, and yes the option for farmers is now at a all time high...
However, I feel AE is good. Moreover, even a little heavy boss missions are ok. The reasons are simple, stalled characters and getting to inside the minds of your friends.
1. Stalled characters we all have them awesome character Ideas that dont work unless they are over a certain level. Example: I had a concept for a character 4 years ago Malkavian Who an androgynous Vampire who was neither male nor female. I couldnt pull it off because I needed two characters created in the same outfit as both male and female, now with the new booster and getting quickly to level 20 I can play it.
2. Looking inside the strange and awkward ideas that your fellow players have, come on nothing better than Lizards Vs Catgirls, or even my B-Movie tributes with Ed Wood as a quest giver.
I should also point out that for the longest time I have wanted to do the sewer trial and last week was the 1st time I got a team, granted we failed but it was my 1st attempt in 5 years. Speaking of which this weekend I need to try again, also I have a list of trail I need to do ;-) -
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Does this count?
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/320851...ay-today_pets/
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yes, it counts... today is the last day of cancer -
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I would say Gun Kata but that would be the name of a defensive power instead.
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Ahh great movie, I would be temped to roll a Alt based on Him.
equilibrium : a must see move -
since its 5g per month with a fee per bit after I am a "war driver" now. like right now... :-
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edit and the draw back to netbook MMO gaming is the video card just barly meets spec, so I will limit when i do it for RP, and running my controller, or MM which are less twitch based then my scrapper and warshade.