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Yes we all know that CoPs can be done without nukes NOW after enough people gave it some rational thought. But back in the first few weeks after I18 went live everyone seemed so convinced that the only way to do it was to drop 20 nukes that the Devs felt the need to "knee-jerk nerf" nukes just to shake everyone out of that mode of thinking. Basically it was people's over-reliance on the "nuke solution" that caused the Devs to decide to nerf them.

Despite that I agree completely that the nerfing of the Warburg nukes began a bad precedent, especially since I contend that they aren't actually NEEDED for anything. The idea of "spot-nerfing" specific powers in specific situations seems far more problematic in the long run. While it's possible they'll do the same for the Tin Mage Director 11 mission I'm hoping cooler heads have prevailed and they'll let that one go. Sure while it's "fun" to kill Director 11 in under 15 seconds with nukes I've seen him killed in under 30ish seconds several times without nukes so that kind of "fun" only goes so far.

And hopefully they'll decide to not include Ninja/Beast Run among the restricted powers in future trials. That's just going a bit too far really.

Yeah I wish Nerius all the luck because he's clearly a fan, but after all it did take Disney 28+ years to do a sequel to TRON. Again I'm not going to say more TRON movies are impossible at this point, but clearly it's not really quite worth holding our breaths for yet either. Like I said before I'll believe it when I see it.

IIRC, the "Samurai" in Brazil even spewed out a fiery light in every location Lowry damaged it, much like what happened in Sucker Punch.

Honestly this whole back-and-forth discussion about whether or not Snyder "borrowed" from Brazil is basically pointless when it's quite obvious that it indeed happened. Sure Snyder may have been influenced by other anime/comic sources, but Sucker Punch was effectively his attempt to "re-imagine" Brazil, to a very poor result.

I think the irony here is that some of us wish Snyder had be much more blatant in his "borrowing" from Brazil because his movie definitely needed the help.

Sure getting a team of people willing to work together is always a challenge. But clearly the Devs want us to at least make an attempt at it or else they wouldn't have nerfed nuke usage during the CoP trial.

To me the use of Warburg nukes is a classic Leeroy Jenkins.
It's the sledgehammer you use when you -don't- have a serious plan otherwise.

No, but then again I ended up not really caring about those "details" regardless. *shrugs*

As I said eariler I personally don't care how much (or little) Snyder "borrowed" from other sources.
All I know is that whatever he did to produce Sucker Punch didn't work out too well.

"1984" is one of the most famous literary examples of a dystopian future where the government has crushed individual freedom. Basically ANY movie or book since that has had anything to do with a "big oppressive government" can cite 1984 as an influence. Heck, even Star Trek has done episodes related to it.

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The whole "threat of lobotomy" subtext of this movie was handled in such a hamfisted way that I'm not really sure how much it would apply to "real world" mental problems at all. Basically it was pretty clear that the "evil stepfather" was using the "corrupt mental institution" as a means to assassinate a bothersome step-child that stood between him and a big inheritance. The lobotomy in this case was just an indirect substitute for directly killing her. This movie really had effectively nothing to do with actual mental institutions or the treatment of mental disorders of any kind.

As Unknown_User said the "real world" setting of this movie was basically immaterial.

When it comes to questions like these I think you have to rely more on the "fiction" side of the Science Fiction setting.

But since we know that Fry's nephew Philip J. Fry II (son of Yancy Fry) became a famous astronaut it would be funny to learn that Zapp Brannigan somehow descended from that side of the family and was actually related to Fry as well.

That's for sure. Brazil was a good movie, Sucker Punch wasn't.

lol, well I guess there was something cool about this movie after all.

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One of the worst parts of Sucker Punch is that it tries to have both a tragic ending and happy ending at the same time. It can't seem to decide what it wants to do. First you have the main character end up being lobotomized despite all her efforts to escape. But somehow we're supposed to think that's OK because she "sacrificed herself" for one of the other girls who ironically was the one who the most pessimistic and kept trying to keep the other girls from "risking" an escape attempt in the first place. The whole thing is just such a messy mess that it was very hard to care what happened to any of them.

I agree that worrying about how much (or little) Synder "borrowed" from Brazil is at best a side issue to all this. The fact still remains that even after claiming that he was "inspired" by Brazil he somehow manged to create at best a very imperfect copy of it.

Does Brazil look as "pretty" as Sucker Punch? *sigh*

About the only thing that Sucker Punch did better than Brazil was to get made like 25 years later.
If Sucker Punch didn't have cutting-edge CGI it would be a TOTAL loss.

Yes we can quibble on whether the term "homage" is more appropriate than "rip-off" in this case. But frankly I almost wish Snyder did "rip-off" Brazil a little more directly. His movie would have -greatly- benefited from it.

In the very broad sense of "the main character uses stylized escapist fantasy to deal with a bad reality" then yes Sucker Punch "rips off" Brazil. But because Brazil actually has a well formed story and characters you can empathize with I'd say the similarity between Brazil and Sucker Punch is as about as close as night and day.

Sucker Punch is at best a very dumbed down, CGI-hollow, video-gamey version of Brazil.

According to IMDB TRON:Legacy more or less just "broke even" last week. Now obviously it'll probably make a bunch of extra money on the DVD/blu-ray sales, but still it wasn't really a "super-blockbuster" box office wise. *shrugs*

I'm not suggesting a new trilogy won't happen. But by the same token I'm not totally sure it's an automatic guarantee at this point either. Lots of people make "contractual plans" for sequels that never happen. Just saying.

Yeah the idea of "nuking them from orbit to be sure" is fine, but basically (like starphoenix was implying) the Warburg nukes are just there as a "crutch" for those teams that can't (for whatever reason) manage something otherwise.

As time goes on I suspect things like the Incarnate powers will make Warburg nukes pretty much unnecessary for anything. Case in point when the CoP Trial was first re-introduced last year everyone got so "nuke crazy" that the Devs actually nerfed it so you couldn't even use them in that trial. People assumed gloom and doom like the CoP was going to be "impossible" without them. Now on Virtue I've been part of a group that's been doing the CoP once a week and we get them done in less than 15 minutes - without nukes of course.

Basically I see the nukes as the "sledgehammer of first resort" when you haven't bothered to figure out the tactics that make them unnecessary yet.

I'd say I eventually have the goal to get all the Alphas unlocked on my main character, but if it takes me another six months to do it I'm not going to be too worried about it. I already have the 2 Very Rares I actually "use" so the rest are just there for me to satisfy a new facet of OCD collectoritis.

I figure from now on (and especially after I20) I'm going to continue to get a steady stream of Shards. Eventually I'll get the several hundred you need to craft the rest of them. Once all the Alphas are done any new Shards I get will just be fodder for any other Threads I still need in the future.

So basically I see no need for "Alpha breakdowns" because eventually we'll have no need for any Shards for anything anyway. Once you've crafted every possible Alpha they'll just pile up uselessly unless you keep converting them to Threads.

Exactly. As I mentioned in another thread this movie just seemed like a 109 minute high-speed, jump-cut edited trailer for a real movie that'll never actually be made. It was too busy trying to hype us up to make us want to like it without actually being that likable to begin with.

I enjoyed both Watchmen and 300. This one? not so much...

Well I guess I'll beleive in a new TRON trilogy when I see it.
The Golden Compass was supposed to be the first of a pre-planned trilogy and look what happened there.

I predicted it was going to be a "less than enjoyable" movie.
We went and actually saw it to give it a chance to prove me wrong.
And it didn't...

Doesn't seem too miraculous to me. Seems more like a sad prediction that came true.

As I said I liked the 20 minutes or so of action set pieces but the attempt to string them together into a feature length film fell flat on its face. I didn't have any problem with how the "dances" worked or any of the "Lolita" factor or any of that so-called "generational" nonsense. The rest of the film was simply boring and didn't make me want to care about it at all. It got to the point where I was wasn't really watching the movie but instead was just waiting for the next 5 minute action sequence to start. That's not a good formula for a good movie.

The fact that it's still rated in the low 20s on RottenTomatoes.com and that it only made about half the box office over the weekend that they expected it to speaks volumes to me. If the critics just "don't get it" then why isn't it making any money regardless?

Yeah them getting married would not be that surprising. Still, trying to slip something like that in at a Con is fairly pathetic all things considered. They could have at least given her like a 30 second cameo during Legacy to explain all that and put a nice "bow" on her involvement in the overall story. *shrugs*