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Why a poem is where the heart is . not where the mind is .
Some people simply have no more minds left , and also no heart.
Some of us have both , other just want to be idiots ...
Not a big deal , but idiots will always remain idiots .
So basically and simply put lovely financiel fallacy... and bad investments , no general oversight , let just sue them .
Easiest way to get the IP .
What are the working conditions for empoyers and advance warning time?
Especially for a profitable business company not in debt .
what are the american rulings about shutting down a division without advance warnings ?
Or indications it would happen ?
Since NCSOFT lawyers must be the most terrible on earth.
They have probaly overlooked some small prints again . -
Quote:No subs to count.
What does a quarter matter?
Just a fourth of a dollar.
The almight dollar might be free to pay.
Don't count don't stack them high can't see.
Iphone tablets give you cancer.
Can't see no CoH cure there either.
What you dream ain't real, no chance
In your short attention span theater.
Donkeys tilt at windmills bro
They are change on the wind
Go west far enough and you'll be east
You can't withdraw from yourself.
*snap*
/endslam
Simply put you are a donkey , have no understanding of finanicial fallacy .
Don't worry soon you will be playing a android or iphone game .
So next gen of idiots too short term sighted and very quick slighted . -
Quote:Good everything is jamming first couple of months including rift , let see in 3 months shall we ?Guild Wars 2 still jamming.
Servers keep on slamming.
No digital sales gotta throttle down.
Keep them boxes movin.
Metacritic exploding.
Hardcore CoH boi can't take it.
No doubt.
The Street hits back.
Reality can harsh your vibe.
Illusions hold you tight.
Keep your digital lies until the end of night.
*snap*
/endslam
Starting period don't mean a thing anymore for games , secret world , swtor ?
Let see then GW2 server updates and server cost versus the new Iphone/Tablet Gamer generation.
Since they are planning to withdraw from the west , means bad investment for you .
So to invest means pay , paying for virtual goods where they can axe you when they want.
And already proven capable and doing , means only donkeys pay .
GW2 is sales , then earnings from virtual goods . well earnings from virtual goods by a publisher who can axe it anytime they want , means definetly buying air ! -
Bottom line short of cash , cut the lowest income project , sounds fair ..
But still in the red , means wrong project cancelled ,
Especially a project that brought stable income trough all the years , the income outweight the cost .
Sure development cost of CoH2 could be tied into NCSOFT future development .
Since NCSOFT somehow even manage to lose lawsuits of 3 million against a gamer addict playing lineage 2 ...
I think it is time to cut the lawyers cost , especially if they keep losing all the lawsuits.
Honestly a project that brings in more revenue then cost , is selfsustaining ,
No matter the reason , if they wish to retire from the western market !
Then they should have offered Paragon Studios a option to untie themself from NCSOFT.
With coming of GW2 it makes all the postive hype surrounding GW2 worthless.
Nobody is going to invest into a product where the publisher cut and run whenever they feel like it , and make jumpy decisions without looking at the problems .
I guess all future relationship with NCSOFT look very bleak, no matter what the outcome.
They just didn't analyse the situation correctly , even if the west is only 5% of the income.
And withdrawing from that market seem sensible , atleast offer the west a solution .
Sell the IP , allow another publisher to take over for a fair or low price.
Allow Paragon to go independant for % of income .
Any of those options could have been discussed before hand , then 1 day axing of a whole studio, this isn't a business , this is like wierd stuff ...
No ultimatum , no warnings , DEV were still working on I24 .
People were still spendig money , WTF is this ? they want more lawsuits on there hand ? -
Sorry disagree scarlet , Time to boycott the heck out of NCSOFT.
This also teaches publishers they have a responsibility , other then look at stupid stats and sweet talks of marketing .
$$ is money , and profit is profit , when they set quota and deadline , they are met.
Then sorry , what more is to be said !
if a publisher cannot abide by it's own rules , how the heck can developers or studios .
Rules are Rules , and lawyering is part of the rules ,
You cannot simply say , he I want more profit !
When you set the quota that is met ! -
Quote:I don't think that NC Soft will give up the IP. There must be an other way then closing the entire game, other games are not so popular and they are still online. They don't sell Auto Assault or Tabula Rasa, they just close them and that's it. Maybe one or two people are crying but who cares? Soon the players will forget it and on Wildstar or Guild Wars 2 or whatever they are all coming back when the hype is right. That's the way a publisher is thinking, it's just money that makes the world go round.
Maybe some from Paragon Studios really have a heart lost in Paragon, but did they really want's to make buisness with NC-Soft, a company that fires the entire team, or isn't is better to do something new? Something without license or publisher troubles. Maybe they really have something what they was working on, so this can be a nice start and they have something that is really great and what not everyone had to offer: Us. A great community what does everything when they can help them, I'm sure about this. Maybe it's not Pargon City anymore then but who cares?
They have nothing to lose anymore so maybe a Kickstarter Campain with a new game will work and when this will not work... Well, then they still can go to Electronic Arts and do Free to play browser games, but when this is really true what they all said here, that the team was so good and they loved what they do, then try it and I promise we will be there to help you.
Look while you are right in many things , Auto Assault was not profitable .
Tabula Rasa was a different reason , a conflict with the creator that couldn't be resolved .
None these reasons applies to Paragon Studios , since they are profitable .
Did they insult somebody of NCSOFT ? the shock and disbelief in the whole teams says otherwise .
Sorry this is simply wrong business habit of NCSOFT , shutting down a selfsustainable project that brings profit , is simply wrong .
Infact tons of others wish they had these options . sorry I cannot imagine any reason for shutting down CoH , without having tried alternative means , like server merger .
letting them finish I24 first and then see if the profits are allright !
Nope just a blunt axe method , that causes more harm then it was good !
So what the heck just happened ? they caused more harm to themself then it is good .
6 million loses as a company , isn't that much based on F2P market strategy .
Sorry they are just doing themself more harm then good .
We are just the casualty of that idiocy . -
bye Sean , thank you for everything.
I really hope they can reassamble a fabulous team again, like you all were .
With a product that many tought would be dead , each team the team and players proven there would not let it die .
The stories even if most people didn't read them were wonderfull , even mister midnight childishe tantrums was welldone . made me chuckle and laugh , -
Thank you melissa , while the money invested wasn't a problem for me and never will be.
The wonderfull world created by all of you dev (old and new) and the trust you have given us as players , made this one of the best community around.
One of the greatest development teams , am just shocked beyond beliefs too .
This must have been a error on NCSOFT part .
But most of all thank you for coming out to say goodbye .
I hope , really hope to see it as a new start , not a end . -
and trolling will not win over logic mister donkey ,
Go invest into a company that pulls this kind of stunt , your choice ,
But as a consumer I have the right to warn people about a publisher intent .
Since honor or dishonor slight on NCSOFT part , CoH is not a tabula rasa case .
Since this case they beter apologise and recitify the mandeed !
It even looks bad for them in the east , nobody in the east does this kind business practise .
Especially not with a profitable division . -
No it is simple ! , the publisher holding the reigns of both products !
Has Gone beyond what is considered fair treatment in consumers eyes .
That another flagship of that publisher , has to take the blaim is the publishers own fault !
Do not blaim it back on the consumers !
Sorry you cannot do that anymore , we been trough this a long time .
And lies are being so transparent , it is not even funny anymore .
So those investing into GW2 congrats , you just made a bad investment !
Since the owner of that game how great the game might be , can pull such stunt anytime !
That is not acceptable to do business with ! -
Christopher lee sacking still left a sour taste in my mouth ..
But atleast in a month , the new/old team has won back the trust , that it was doing more for the playerbase , then most could have known .
Thank you for all the good work.
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Don't care one bit of GW2 definetly not one bit about NCSOFT , after this stunt .
No matter what the excuses , unless recitified immediately , they signed there own grave.
Simple why invest into GW2 when they can pull the same stunt there !
Give consumers one reason to bother with any products assosiated with NCSOFT!
Sorry only somebody worst then a donkey hithimself on that stone twice .
Server merger as a excuse to decrease cost fine , downright sacking of a development team
Canning Customers ! , canceling a division that was PROFITABLE !!
Who the heck do they think they are korean maffia ?
Korean highschool kids doing business ? without etiquettes ?
Sorry that boils it down too !
Tabula rasa I could understand , but this crap no way !
so bye bye GW2 .... -
Quote:Exactly we are a pile of cash with brains thus a individual person .Actually Kickstarter proved that we ARE all piles of cash. It also proved that we are piles of cash with brains, and that when we all join up into giant piles of cash things get done.
Not a #x spent so much a month , he must be poor or rich or whatever reason .
Infact what kickstarter proven is that depending on the project people rise beyond those flat statistics .
Now rather have them try to do a donation othersway so more can go into the new/remade paragon studios . but you cannot deny kickstarters fame at this moment and different people of all walks of life it attracts all over the world , that is worth a lot more then small donations from us CoH fans alone .
They have the professionality , the fame , the credibility , enough community support from all walks of life . to pull it off . -
Don't give up the fight , it ain't over yet !
Sorry fire man , start thinking positive , doesn't matter if it is a cooperate structure .
in the end fans can do a lot for a company , we are not just $ statistics like kickstarter proven , we are more then that ,
Sure while in real life , banks rule the world and contacs in that world , online it is still the consumers who decide what is going to happen .
Since we still have our cash power , influence here ! -
infact zillenger coffee talk time was great and funny to watch .
They gotten the transition to that part of making money also right !
A little bit more theatre and it was a winner .
Everything was set for another 5 year or the next gen !
Who are influenced by spending on the mood or fun .
Sadly the competition element is not here , but then again that is why most people loved this game .
But competition element in way of new powerset was here !
So that is also no reason for lost of profits , since slow powercreep was being introduced to gain more money .
More money means they can go back and powercreep the free sets , which they were doing.
City of Money in this case was totally unproven !
Sorry the game had terrific potential , and a terrific team behind it , that tought of people first , no matter the income status or problems . -
Quote:they played by the rules , meet the deadlines and quoto set each time ,I think that's what NCSoft will wind up doing, yeah. Shelve the IP so no one can ever play the game again, C&D anyone who tries to bring it back, or pursue further legal action.
It probably wasn't any slight of the folks at Paragon Studios that caused this to happen; NCSoft just decided City of Heroes was not making enough money to justify its continued existence in favor of its other titles.
Sorry so don't use that justification as excuse , since coporate structure groundbase rule is quota and deadlines .
There was no reason for this behaviour ! what favor of other tittles ?
CoH was and still is revolutionair in MMO development , everybody who create/play MMO knows that , sure it doesn't bring the huge bucks like wow , but it wasn't starving either especially with going free to play , people just need to get use to donate a bit more each month .
Since we are a bit smaller community , at this rate only thing left to play are Pay to win games , since they rack up the money with deciets and lies and ripoff .
Customers are sometimes really blind how good the developers here were .
And must say they were excellent , even answering some of my stupid questions . -
Quote:If they can't come to a compromise let them do that , and this time stay independant .In the worst case, we'd have to develop our own CoH-but-not-quite-CoH-to-attract-lawyers IP - and when you consider just how many of the CoH story elements were based on classic comic book set ups, we'd be able to come pretty close.
Sorry I think enough people in the MMO community and people in the development of MMO would contribute enough , for a ressurection independant CoH .
Especially since it was making profit , not huge amount , but if all bills get paid , and still substantial profit for the publisher , who the hell are they to complain . -
Quote:This is one of the plans that's being considered - the biggest hurdle would be getting NCSoft so sell/give up the IP.
What do they want to do , shelf it like tabula rosa , and let it rot , did paragon studios piss them off that much ?
I do not think so , infact they allowed them freedom , so what the heck went wrong ?
Honestly things were looking great , for the future . -
Quote:Wait one second how can dark be bad ? with a dark servant that with 2 SO tohit debuff.Tonight I tried to duo on my level 49 dark/dark controller with a SG member the daily 'Phram'. The dark/dark combo is a total wreck, completely ineffective with the new content. I really dislike the upper level play, and I am leaning towards this being the highest level character I have deleted. I really resent the time I put into this character it was fun until about level 45 with all the miss, resist, and unaffected b.s.
1 accuracy is a solid tank and a healer ?
You need to strategically place it , I usually use teleport ally to smack him into the middle of a group. but truth is your build doesn't look bad at all .
Maybe it is the difficulty playing on x8 , + too high , remember there is a certain cap , and those to bit buff drones with forcefields , when not killed , will make you miss a lot.
And nullifies your tohit debuffs , sorry preatorian arc , is not meant for everybody .
Those mobs are way uber , and targeting is very much a priority .
Sorry each of those mobs are very challenging to play against , all of them nullifies your defense , resistance regen etc . -
Both concept will work well , problem is that they are late bloomers , so they faceplant a lot at higher difficulty ,
So it is not that they are bad combination , till you get the resist 45% and selfheal .
It really feels like living on the edge , kill or be killed .
Resist is that earlier levels your hp will dip a lot so choose either to rest or keep going and have less hp bar buffer , or lose the fury bonus in damage.
So there combo is not flawed it is more like how much can you enjoy it .
Dual Blades problems is that it requires all the powers minus taunt .
Some would cut something out l but I found weaken in the endgame to be a blessing .
Especially knowing that I am going to take way too much damage , so gives more bucks for your resist ..
Fire Dark , has least problems of the two set , sorry both sets will do fine in the endgame.
As long you know what you want to do in the endgame .
As for me in the end , I got bored with them when I hit the stage of he almost there for survivalbility . ( loved the elec armour look was the reason that kept me going)
But sadly was just not it for me . -
nevermind , not worth fixing if
Spoiler.
There isn't anything different with auto complete .
As manual complete . -
bug still there in I24 , even /sync every mob didn't help , it seems as you progress killing the mobs , the more likely change of a DC .
Definetly serverside issue , not client side . -
Quote:If you checked the black blob of ink is still there , no fade , I do not have trouble with at all.I have and use the power as it is to great benefit on my Sonic/Devices. I quite like the fade affect which is very much a part of the look and feel of my character.
However, I also understand that not everyone thinks fading is cool, and that the graphic effect won't fit with every character concept, and that some would rather role-play a character with stealth based on something other than transparency.
I wouldn't be adverse to a black blob of ink being added back in as an option either. Some may want to pair that look with Dark Blast, or simply think that "fading to black (or whatever colour)" is cool.
The more options the better, in my view.
But the OP sounded like her opnion must be law , infact invis is very much loved by women.
Cloaking device is the same , now would it hurt to have a no fade option ?
No , more options the beter .
But is cloaking device such a burden , since she already has it .
For LOTG , to switch on and off in combat and after combat ?
Sorry if you really cannot stand the concept of cloaking device for Roleplay .
Then just don't take it , her argument seems more like , RP drama arguments about a power.
We had mastermind pistols running around without henchmen , severly gimped .
people didn't complain that much .
You want to play a certain concept accept the penalties , especially for roleplay purpose . -
Quote:Lmao how fun it is to quote somebody , and read there answers to there own quotesUm....ok...in the future, I'll try to be more rude to newcomers like you, then? Not sure what you were aiming at there. A for effort though, dude.
Ah, so now (again) you are the one assuming forum dates mean something? You make me smile.
I could make a joke here, but I won't. Just so you know.
Lol. Ok.
Well, anyway, you keep doing the things you do, buddy. I'd continue this little chat we're having, but unless you're an alternate account of New Dawns, I really have nothing to say to you. Not that I believe you are, as I personally believe that she's above that. So...yeah.
So basically you were talking to yourself , like always .
nothing new . -
Quote:Newsflash , then nobody means a thing do theyNews flash genius, join date don't mean squat.
You people comments? Really? Poor form dude, this one is not winning anyone over.
Perfect acceptable for us all , people who gone trough ED Global Defense , Inventions Gladiators , stupid PvP that caused more nerfs .
Ah well all those things don't mean a thing acceptable .
So no need to say welcome newbie , cause oldie and newbie don't mean a thing..
And I for one am sincerly happy with thatno sarcasme intended .
Nope and if you cannot stand the truth , then don't accept it is poor form .
If truth is no longer your interest , don't talk about winning .
Or is so important to win , that you can write your own truth .
Lmao , how far people have sunk