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Is it just me or is spamming us with the standard 'Daily maintence' spiel 5 mins b4 your about to shut down your servers unexpectadley just kinda rude. Is a short message expalining the situation, apologising, estimating how long said problem might continue really too much to ask as we pay to feed them hamsters in the first place so if they got sick and need to go the vet surely we should be properly informed.

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Yea its just you mate, if its important and needs fixing just fix it, who cares about the message.

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I cant wait to design perfect farm and farm it till agricultural exports in paragon skyrocket.


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I just hope i can at last create a decent villain farming map, so we can do our bit for the Rogue Isles too

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I do get your point, I just think you're wrong. You were in no way forced to give them access to the storage, but you did. Since the permission system functions on a binary system rather than with more complex permissions, at that point any limitations you imposed on them were fully trust-based, not via game mechanics, and thus you no longer had protection of them being broken.

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You did note the actual point of all this in with your usual unsypathetic point of view there.

Its the trust element that pisses people off,then the lack of being able to do something about it straight after.

Your view on the rules making wrong things right REALLY is obscure, its a good job not many people share it or the world would be a [censored] up place.

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I know HOW it happened, although there is no justification for the "Why" of it.. but this isnt about that. This is about the larger issue of someone doing something safe in the knowledge the system will protect them from having to answer for it.

My trust may have obviously been missplaced as it turns out, but that doesnt make what he did right, nor does it excuse him being able to get away with it.

For example.. if I have a flat and I look for a flat mate and all his references say his an awesome person.. such that I give this seemingly trusworthy effective stranger a key to my flat, only later find that after a week I come home one night and discover all my property has gone and my flat mate has vanished.. On what planet do you think the police would tell me sorry its your fault you gave him the key, consider it a learning experience and know better next time? Obviously that would not happen, the police would never tell me that, instead they would do everything possible to apprehend the thief and make him answerable for his actions and if humanly possible retrieve what was taken. And even if it wasnt retreivable id have insurance that would at least reimburse me for my loss.

So if such a situation could not occur in real life, then why should it be excusable for it to happen in a game, especially when that game constitutes a service I am paying to be provided and as such expect someone (the game company) to be looking otu for and protecting my ssafet and interests while playing it.

As I have stated this is about the principal of what the individual did, he stole from someone else, something that wasnt his and the system has effectively allowed him to do it, get away with it and even protect him for doing it from having to answer for his actions so that he could effectively do it time and time again to other people in total safety.

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Thats all true and i agree 100%, but with the permissions as they are this lots customer support are pushed to tell the difference between case a... whats happened to you.

And case b.... someone has a grudge, gets sg member to remove salvage then reports them for stealing it.

Its the the permissions that need changing badly, customer support are between a rock and a hard place.

Its happened time and time again mate,nothing will be done about it because the useless pemission structure in effect says you gave him permission to steal your goods.

Shame you had to stumble over another [censored] bag.

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True, as did everything. But most purples prices have been steadily creeping up the past few months.


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I must admit iv not noticed that, but anyway thats hardly the same as the price of purples being higher than ever is it?

I also doubt purples will ever be as high in price as they were at the start, thanks to more of them dumped on the market.

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The prices of purple recipes has dropped to a degree, the price of the relevant salvage associated with them has risen dramically.

Chronal skip, Platinum, Impervium etc. Some of these are selling for ridiculous INF now.


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I stick to ready made ones when i can to avoid that.

Also villain side magic salvage has dropped a lot, so making them aint the bitter pill it was to swallow.

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Look at the prices of purple recipe drops (higher then ever).


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The price of purple recipe's has dropped a lot since they were introduced.

Huge gratz mate , well done

Happy Birthday mate

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minor point but don't you have to be in the same zone for it to count you in the mob size calculation? I know you don't have to enter the mission, but I always thought you had to at least be in the same zone.


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No any zone will boost the mobs.

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I think in game ads are pretty good but I'm surprised they haven't gone for smaller businesses, more localisation etc. I also imagine that once the system has been proven it will attract more advertisers

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Smaller business's are going to get a better return for advertising pretty much anywhere other than here, especially localised ones.

Unless its a very game or computer related company, and then it would have to be a national one wouldnt it, the chances of them getting any local people in a particular town in this game are gonna be slim to none with this population.

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I mean honestly, do they expect you to wait around to do your door mission in the tutorial just so they can have a few extra mobs in their mission? It's somewhat selfish and not giving the best impression of the community to complete newbies if that is the first communication they ever get in the game.

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Why not just do it, takes 2 minutes.

As for impressions well at least they know there is life on the server

PB's have got a decent single target heal too if i remember rightly.

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Where are the half truths... A PB/WS can pretty much just tank and DPS... but it would be alot better for the team to find a blaster or tanker... cause they can easyly outmatch a kheldian...

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But neither can do a half good job at both, which Khelds can, thats what they always been, very adaptive.

VEATS dont bring anything special to a team bar a few buffs either.

I found both my khelds and veats a bit under-whelming to be honest.

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out of intrest how would players feel about the 40/50 question being open to agreement by the 2 opposing team captains, if an agreement can not be reached a best of 3 r/p/s match with the winning captain picking the level limit?

Or would this create to much of an uneven keel to the contest?

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What you gonna do if they cant agree?

That seems like a recipe for last minute pull outs.

A vote on here dosent mean a lot as more dont bother with this forum than do.

I dont think the ratio is representative of the population.

But anyway i vote for raising to 50.

Huge gratz mate getting your second VEAT to level 50

More quality from Murders Unlimited VG!

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Yes, it is great and I do rather hope it carries on after the Halloween event.

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Bored and fancy a bit of trolling?

Another event to lag the server to death.... nice.

I hope it dont carry on after the haloween event.

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Micro-transactions bother me if:
1) players can buy an "in-combat advantage" over non-buyers in the game
2) they become mandatory to play the game (like certain Asian MMOs I've heard about where you can only buy heal/mana potions for real money from the "cash-shop/item-mall", and content becomes too tough/onerous without them)
3) content that players previously received free in issues/patches (such as new costumes/powersets/archetypes/zones/arcs, etc) will only be available through micro-transaction payments in future

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I think if this game went down that road they would end up with no cutomers so i cant see it happening.

I do hope they bring out a bug free paid for expansion though.

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Ok for those who don't believe 1 respec=20mil gained

Toon 1- 20 mil to start - buy respec £6 - 20 mill at end
Toom 2- 20 mil to start - but respec 20 mil - 0 at end

So therefore there is a diffrence made in the economic wealth of a charecter through an input of cash.

Or let me give you a slightly more obscure example. Now for the sake of arguement I have made a deal with my dancing friend that whoever completes this respec TF and chooses a recipe gets a LOTG 7.5, now both are charecters need respecs but I having forked out my £6 can choose a recipe anyone who didn't and needs to choose the respec has missed out!
In fact through an easily workable exploit you may as well say NC will sell you inf at a rate of £1/mill!!

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I think thats a very obscure way of looking at things and not gonna be shared with many to be honest.

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Or let me give you a slightly more obscure example. Now for the sake of arguement I have made a deal with my dancing friend that whoever completes this respec TF and chooses a recipe gets a LOTG 7.5, now both are charecters need respecs but I having forked out my £6 can choose a recipe anyone who didn't and needs to choose the respec has missed out!


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Having just read that again im a bit lost, how can you guarantee a certain recipe for a respec trial?

And how are you any better or worse off picking the respec at the end of it?

You are just as likely to get a jank recipe as a decent one, and anyway you do the respec trial for 2 different reasons, a you want a respec or b you want a recipe.

Someone who has paid 6 quid for a respec from this lot aint any better off or worse in game, they just chose to spend 6 quid out of game.

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Surely as a respec, if you ran out would cost u, 20 mill then by paying £6 you have gained 20 mil , No? surely an ingame benefit.


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No because not having the 20 mil might be the reason you pay the £5.99,in fact thinking about it, whichever way you look at it you havent gained 20 mil in game.

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Humm I don't mind this at all. I can see there being a market for those who don't have alot of time to play and would rather spend that time playing than trying to gather the inf for a respec recpie. Pluss extra cash NCNC get will filter back to us eventualy(hopefuly).

There is one thing i have a few spare respec's on toons I dont play any more could i sell them back to NCNC I won't charge £5.99 how does 1 purple or a LOG + 7.5% recharge as a swop sound.

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Your GREEEEED for expensive recipe's knows no bounds!