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If PVP is so great now and I13 is nerfing it, then how come you are not all in the zones now and why have they been dead for ages?!!!!


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Well there's this thing, its called the test server.

Its where the i13 beta is at the moment, and funny enough, everyone is on there, trying out this new fun version of pvp.

And if you think the zones were dead before this, have a look a month after this new rubbish goes live.

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So zero people minus x = what exactly?

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What i mean is, once this goes live you will have the same dead pvp zones as before, minus however many of the people that did used to use them that wont bother after this.

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Dooooooooooooooooooooooooooom!

That is all.

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Keep on chuckling mate.

That is all.

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If PVP is so great now and I13 is nerfing it, then how come you are not all in the zones now and why have they been dead for ages?!!!!


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Well there's this thing, its called the test server.

Its where the i13 beta is at the moment, and funny enough, everyone is on there, trying out this new fun version of pvp.

And if you think the zones were dead before this, have a look a month after this new rubbish goes live.

The difference between the moaning about this and the moaning about ED is that there was'nt an alternative to this game when ED happened.

There is now, and as for people crying wolf, read what i just said again.

Having read those prices i now feel short changed myself and on behalf of our VG.

We are one of those big active VG's that did put the time and effort in to earn 100 million prestige, and did spend it on expensive rooms.

Now that i see the HUGE price reductions of security rooms, i almost feel obliged to now waste god knows how long demolishing god knows how many turrets, rooms etc to get this prestige back.

This has REALLY [censored] me off now. Why can a script not be implemented, they have done it before, do it again.

Dont keep [censored] off your long standing customers who have put the effort in.

If you cant run a script to refund prestige, fix the borked, clunky base editor so there is a place to store made items while rooms are removed and remade.How many times has that been asked for? Listen to your customers my [censored].

There are so many things they could have done, and they chose this absolute rubbish salvage conversion thing instead. Amazing.

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Fitness I was glad to avoid on my Elec Blaster, y'know? And my TA/Archery defender. Know why? Not because I'm a masochist and love pain, but because I loved being able to take fun, useable, cool looking powers instead of stat upgrades.


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I did try that route yonks ago (all be it on a melee char) but the frustration of having no end to use my spiffing new powers out weighed the fun of having them in the end for me, so i relapsed and got the usual swift, health stamina.

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Y'know, if NCNC want all types to be able to have access to Conserve Power, Focused Accuracy, Power Boost and such, here's an idea.

Give them to it as inherents from level 41+. A free inherent power for 41, 44, 47 and 49.

I've leveled my Electric Blaster without stamina. I've held out 34 levels for Power Drain, a cool electric looking effect at 35. Then I had Shocking Grasp, Shocking Bolt, Static Discharge, the shield and EMP Pulse ahead of me to round out my character for cool looking powers that I'd be thrilled to use in combat. My character raising her hands and letting out a huge surge of electrical energy, or blasting out with a powerful field. I had concept reasons for taking them!

Or here's an idea, give us more sets. Let people take sets with those 'needed' powers in if they want and you don't want to just -give- us the damn things for free, and keep some sets having cool looking powers. Let us make the choice.

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Zortel be smart! Deleting powers is a VERY bad move! Add more choices into the APP/PPP and we'll be happy, not keep our epic powers to a minimum. At it stands only 1 or 2 epics appeal to me still.

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I thought that was an alright idea Zortel had there with the inherents.

I might give Ovaltine light a try next

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I guess you've already read what Posi has said about this:

<<Bases:

We’ve made some changes to the way players deal with bases. Overall things got a lot less expensive, Prestige-wise, in bases. This means that smaller SGs should be able to accomplish more with their bases now. If your SG wants to take advantage of the new, lower, prices, you’re going to have to do a little work in selling the older items, and buying the new, lower priced items. It’s an unfortunate artifact of the way the base system was designed that we can’t just refund your SG the difference straight away. We’ve also eliminated the need for Base Salvage. Now everything in bases can be built with Invention Salvage. You will even be able to convert all that extra Base Salvage into Invention Salvage to help get rid of the extraneous items your SG has probably accumulated. This change will help smaller SGs build cooler stuff faster, as well as give large SGs a benefit for all their hard work so far. Don’t worry, the storage containers in bases will now be able to hold a small amount of Invention Salvage as well now.>>

or the Patch Notes already posted by Palladium:

<<Bases

• All Supergroup Base room prices and Prestige costs have been rebalanced.
• Removed all base salvage from base item recipes. Base Salvage should only be needed in recipes that convert base salvage to invention salvage.
• Base raiding is currently being redesigned, and will be in that state for some time. For the duration, all base raiding, including instant raids, will be disabled.
• Added Teleporter Beacon for Pocket D.
• Added SG badge to access Pocket D beacon.
• Robo-Surgery can be attached to the Basic Reclaimator
• Sprit Signal can be attached to Resurrection Rings
• Base Salvage racks can now hold a limited amount of invention salvage.

Removed all raiding related restrictions on placing items in a base. Specifically, items may now intersect and or completely block door to door paths or door to item paths.
• This change will allow much greater freedom in placing objects in your base.
• When raids are enabled again, players will be able to choose whether their base will abide by the new raiding-related restrictions.>>


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Theres a few nice things in that, what stuns me is the one single thing that has caused more arguments than anything else EVER in sg's/bases (permissions/salvage theft) STILL cant be addressed.

In fact, now they managed to [censored] it up a bit more.

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Yes, fixed my typo. I just woke up, gimme a break. <_<

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No! How dare you err! Flagellate yourself with this birch branch until you've repented properly

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It's this de caff coffee making me cranky

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Decaff coffee? I have to ask why?

I'm putting my crankyness down to lack of sleep (stupid Fallout 3), lack of ciggies (stupid impending operation), removal of one of the Character Concepts I was looking forward to (stupid other Masterminds hatred of personal attacks), plus my usual sunny personality.

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Well ..... i read that drinking de caff can help reduce irritability you see, which believe it or not, even with my usual sunny disposition i do at times suffer from.

Soooo im now on this de caff only for a month kick

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Then don't drink decaff?

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No, im drinking de caff in an attempt to stop me getting the hump in me office, but it's failing.

Last bit of advice i take from a web site

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Yes, fixed my typo. I just woke up, gimme a break. <_<

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No! How dare you err! Flagellate yourself with this birch branch until you've repented properly

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It's this de caff coffee making me cranky

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Thunder Strike is a targeted melee AoE that does Smashing/Energy damage to the primary target with a chance to stun it, the Energy damage component to all those around the primary target, and has a high chance to knockdown all of the targets affected. Also it drains a bit of endurance if you care for that kind of thing. It's a great attack in Energy Melee for Brutes/Stalkers.

Here's hoping they give MMs the Brute version that does indeed do knockDOWN as opposed to knockBACK.

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Thunderstrike aint in the energy set.

It wont even get that far, because its going to be hard work getting people to part with it in the first place.

You spend years harping on, please put ya base salvage in the base, people are used to that now.

Then bang, for no good reason it gets changed and you are asking them to give useful stuff away, its going to cause drama, and salvage theft.

Epic fail of an idea. Why on earth didnt they sort out base access permissions first, how frigging hard could that have been really.

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Looking on test , there forced if you already had the power they have changed.
*** Sucks*** was there a poll we all missed or something?
My blasters sleep grenade has been replaced by what ever the new power is called , my purple set is still slotted but because its a sleep set it doesn't work.
I didn't check the bonus so would presume they dont work either.Will check later on after work.

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Feck that so. Well done Castle. Rather than give people a choice (like the APPs tend to do) you're replacing the whole lot of one type (AOE Damage) with another (single target + mez).

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Yea another well implemented i13 feature.

Iv never said this before but im finally, slowly, going off this game.

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Hmmm. The changes aren't forced upon us, so if I hurry and do the arcs and get that half a level before Beta runs out I could still get it?

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Are they forced or left in till a respec? Thats what i was just discussing with Cynic.

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Now they've gone and changed it this means i lose my purple set and recharge bonus which was the whole point to picking and slotting the power in the first place.

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I think you will find you only lose the power, and the purples bonus if you respec.

I might be wrong there though.

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I thought they said it wasn't the case with this change that it would be forced through. But I cant even remember where I read about the change in advance. It is also why I'm glad they're not changing Dark Mastery though cause it holds my only purples

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Ah you could be right, i was just going off what happened before.

In that case its worse then, they shouldnt do that in my opinion.

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Now they've gone and changed it this means i lose my purple set and recharge bonus which was the whole point to picking and slotting the power in the first place.

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I think you will find you only lose the power, and the purples bonus if you respec.

I might be wrong there though.

The plot price reductions are all good, but my 2 main gripes remain.

Destroying things to reclaim the prestige difference is going to hinder the sg's that need it the most.

And that other stupid idea of changing base salvage for invention salvage, to be honest, after seeing what they had done to pvp, i lost interest in checking out any more last night, so i dont know if its still going ahead.

But if that salvage idea goes live it's another nail in the coffin for sg's and base building.


Issue 13.... SG housing crisis lol

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Joy. Thanks for replacing powers with such bland ones. I take APP powers for cool, flashy stuff. Not boring must improve efficiency things.


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Trouble is that puts you in the minority. Most people take powers because they are , well powers, not for how they look.

Im not saying this is wrong or right obviously, everyone's gotta do whatever floats their boat.

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Oh, btw, concerning the "grass dieing". I once went up to Shetland midwinter, where the best light you get for a couple of weeks is zombie-red twilight, and there is lots of grass, it doesn't die.

I guess it just stops growing.

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Did you measure it to make sure that is in fact the case? Cos if there is lots of it, i cant help thinking it could still be growing.

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I also roleplay and the city has been sitting under a cloud of inky blackness for two weeks. By now, frankly, the entire city should be panicing, or leaving for places where the sun shines, and all the grass should be dying.

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Nah, I lived in Manchester for 4 years. you get used to it.

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I do live in Manchester, and we still get less zombies and more sun.

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I bet you could do some thrilling role playing in Moss Side

I cant see the problem, if you are sick of it (like i am too) just stand somewhere they dont spawn, or god forbid, go and do a mission.

Happy birthday mate

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Well had it been described more clearly, you might have had less people mention it.

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I thought it was fairly clear...

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Well obviously not judging by the amount of people here and on the us forum that didnt read it right.

Anyway, all's well that ends well.