LastLeprechaun

Whew. Thought you were deadly serious for a second. Glad I read through

I do like the new animations and I get the concept, but at least "one" weapon that isn't from outer space japan - or looney tunes - would have increased its universal appeal a hundred fold.

Not by my assessment - but I'm very particular. See my OP on page 1.

If they would have fleshed out even just one simple OVERSIZED regular old medieval style sword it would have stretched so much further across the character concept gene pool into things like non-anime black knights, bulky barbarians, ogres, half giants, mythological gods, Amazon Women from Mars etc, etc... but it's very niche as is... an odd mixture of tech modern and abandoned construction site to be exact.

Classic fear of less is more or anti-minimalist design standards at play I suppose. Again I'm just saying one of the weapon choices could have been more generic (although one of each type even better) for maximum theme penetration.

As I also said it will be great for some - but its an aesthetically specific set to be sure.

*brushes dust off left shoulder*

Now if I could only do this trick with lottery numbers.

Understood and agreed. The fem version is probably the best designed pieces in the set and the only thing I could see piecemealing into some of my toons, esp with the steampunk stuff. Oddly enogh. as "whorish" as you are making it out to be, I've actually found with the right combination "some" of the pieces help add quite a bit of class and femininity to other costume parts for certain toons. Lots of these sets are about mixing and matching - I have no problem with doing that. It's when pieces are omitted, designed poorly, or in certain instances "unnecessarily" gender specific.


I suspect you are well aware that your position is both unique and probably minority - as far as the global comic book market goes - so I respect you even more for shouting it loud and proud.

But... "There was not some secret back door entrance in comics that any of you slipped through where the heroic girls are flat chested and wearing frumpy layers."

By your own admission you know the genre inside and out and I not only respect you're dislike of major keystone elements of the genre but I am in awe that you've managed to stick with and endure a genre that is so molecularly bound with the things you detest, almost since inception. I would have tapped out long ago, if i shared your convictions, especially when there are so many other places to get "story".

But be that as it may... please don't petition that a game, that has never made any bones about emulating super hero comic books, no longer emulate them. Petition Marvel and DC, artists and store owners and try to change the genre itself at its core... not it's simple conduit into MMO. I'd prefer a super hero comic book game to be unflinchingly reflective of the super hero comic book genre.

or comic books...

Historically erroneous statements - and slight difference on opinions aside - we can (and should) easily find common ground in the singular notion that the Dev's dropped the ball by not allowing the creation of the VERY comic book appropriate "female gunslinger".

No worries - you'll get it - but please bear in mind the hoop rings around the skirt will of course be pre-tinted perma-yellow as indicated.

I'm going to selfishly pretend this little costume-centric tease - singled out from the other 10,000 things talked about and covered at the conference - was thrown out in an effort to quell the Great Gunslinger Debacle of 2011.

On the positive side - I can say that at least one or two offerings from each of the gender sets shown in the comp is nice, clean, simple and universally neutral enough to cover lots of themes and concepts. Some of the other things I see are still really odd, silly and have that “well we gotta slip some other fodder in there to make it seem like a great value” – but then again this is the positive portion of my post.

On the neutral side – At first glance I seriously no joke thought they were showing a long time existing costume set from “another hero game” – until I read through.

On the down side – Sweet retro “Ray Gun”… too bad it shoots lead bullets.

It's just not a conservative genre when it comes to sex, power and fashion. Never really was.

So while our personal definitions of what is sexy vs slutty in the game... or in current pop culture for that matter... assuredly will never align, nor our individual thoughts on what was sexy vs. slutty in the early 19th century, one thing is for certain... our call for options and freedoms in the world's greatest costume creator is singular and sound.

Well... yes it is.

I’ll start off with the ball that was dropped the hardest… the guns. Why oh why oh why? What are those misshapen super-sized puffy polygon children’s toys? As I stated in my initial post 90% of the DP weapon choices are already hideous (Although I did notice last night that additional work has gone into the S&W and the Steampunk Pistol – thank you for that) and this was the one costume set that oozes pistols – perhaps our last chance to see new pistols - this was a designers time to shine! I expected so much from this. It only hurts so much because we know they can do better (Navy Colt). From a design standpoint I find these completely silly and unusable. This is my one true impassioned gripe. The rest of my post is just chatter in the ominous shadow of poor gun designs.

Contrastly, costume updates are consistently the only thing that gets me to come back to the game after hiatus. Unfortunately this means it burns me twice as much when the anticipated costume set feels like rushed afterthoughts with no consideration for cross-gender, or more importantly cross-concept, compatibility.

Sorry to pile on, but this seems like a really odd desire to me as well. And I’m all about content and continuity and wanting things to make sense and fit in the universe I play in. But the big difference here is I don’t need someone else writing the backstory to “my” hero. I provide that, either in my head, via the in-game bio or occasionally on a bit of offline creative writing if I’m so inspired. This is to say I justify the costume I create – If I can’t then I wont pick those pieces. I don’t want any of that done for me and I want lots of “quality” (ahem) choices without any dev storyline management bottle neck.

There should be an endless closet of costume sets with zero explanation… and when the hero poofs into existence on the sprawling streets of paragon… it is up to he/she to tell us their story.

I have to agree with you on this. (A) Because it’s not a costume set and (B) because I can’t creatively make a German Shepard fit into any comic-book theme no matter how disparate whatsoever and I’d love to see the Dev’s try. That would be entertaining.

Wait… Those things are spurs?


At least the cow skulls can be turned off. What about those odd grand marshal circus parade slash band geek perma-gold rope thingies that CAN’T be turned off? Not making this pill easy to swallow for us are they.

I actually like the hair, but I've been begging for long hair with cowboy hat (any hat?) since beta, and in the interest of full disclosure I would pay good money to attend the pre-screening of "Rob Zombie's High Noon".


I’m still in awe. How do you fumble your easiest win the hardest?


You mean the natural claws that Werewolves, Spectral Terrors, etc have been using since forever and has been ingame for ages? Really, why can't devs just give us natural claws if they’re already there? :3

Devils advocate: Because the in-game NPC thug will never be subjected to a scale slider.


This also brings up the issue as well. I’ll never be able to hear that excuse the same way again.

The cockiest thing I’ll say here is that it seems to me if the Devs would just put 1/10th the QA/QC that I put into making a single costume in the creator - I think we'd be a little better off. I'm such a perfectionist (to a fault) with a silly little hobby… I just can't fathom releasing something like this from a professional standpoint. I truly think it’s that bad. Riddled with issues both buggy and creatively speaking.

Hold your cards we have a bingo! Congrats on nailing the exact photo the designers were working from. Well done Vega. Any chance you can figure out where on earth they got the idea for that coat with the rope things??

Ok… so play along with me for a second… maybe NCSoft has a pretty powerful firewall in place to keep these guys from slacking and google images is blocked from their desktops? Only excuse I can think of for missing the mark by this much.

Actually our first “super” heroes (in the US anyway) were cowboys. This genre then spurred (“spurred”… get it? Notice I didn’t say “gaudy fish-hooked”) some of the first “heroic” comic books, TV serials and film action stars. They even did innovative things like mix the western genre with Sci-fi… 80 years ago. Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ioDuO4w-jI sometime. It can’t get more “super hero comic book” than that stuff.

I’ll spare you all of the somewhat contemporary examples of western figures in hero comics – but I think it’s very safe to say western themes nestle just as comfortably into the genre as the appropriate super hero science fiction and fantasy elements. And based on the response to this costume set in particular I think my sentiments may be echoed.

MORE COSTUME SPECIFICS…

Try slapping a high collar cape on the back of the gunslinger jacket for an extra special clipping party. Never got this with the Baron stuff.

Strictly on aesthetics… The female gloves are just horrible. What are those? I keep getting feelings like so many costume pieces and even auras are just quick filler throw-aways.

However by far the worse offending Costume issue (besides the pistols of course) has to be that the inside color of the buttcape is perma-black. Can some one else verify this? Maybe I was seeing things/red.

SEXIST

This is the comic book genre. The chicks are sexy and the dudes are swollen... that's why we're here. There was not some secret back door entrance in comics that any of you slipped through where the heroic girls are flat chested and wearing frumpy layers. And mind you I say this without even throwing Anime into the mix which is where it starts to get really kooky . However, a sexy female gunslinger with chaps is completely genre appropriate and will be horribly missed. Ugh.

In closing I think what saddens me the most is that I have thrown my two gunslinger hero characters (Six Gun Kid and Six Gun Girl on Pinnacle) from way-back in a holding pattern for months - waiting for the new gunslinger costume options before I started running them around for the world to see and spent hours looking at their backsides in possibly sub-par fashion glory. However having worked this costume set to death I am astonished to report that what I did with the pieces already available is better than anything I could do with what just came out and was meant specifically for my concept.

OUCH.

Is that release date accurate? Don't give a rat's **** about giant slow moving anime weapons - but would you happen to have an accurate release date for Staff Fighting or Gunslinger Costume set?

I think you missed my sarcasm on the German Shepard.

The person I was responding to - with my comment that you quoted - had said:

I facetiously stated that if this rumor were true the German Shepard would be included in the sale (because in my findings it is not selling well at all).

Arf!

This must be false as I do not see the German Shepard listed in the sale.

Well I have to do a follow report here...

I went in pretty hot and heavy over the weekend and put more consecutive "in game" time (as opposed to Costume Creator time) into CoH than I have in quite awhile.

And let me just say I am very proud of you "masses"... very proud indeed. I believe the Dogpocolypse may fall in Y2K category. To put this in real terms - I prolly logged in about 20 hours across 4 servers and saw 1 GS.

I quite honestly couldn't believe it. And if my fearful expectations didn't come to pass - does this mean the Devs hopeful expectations also did not come to pass? Hmmmm...

Similar findings anyone? Supply and demand in effect? Pricing?

But I’m sure that only hero concepts – costume and name – that make sense with a German Shepherd will take this option.

But seriously folks, I had this CoGS reaction as well… similar to the CoBA… until I saw the price. 500 = population control... if not canineocide.

Please note something like this – roughly – is right up my alley – they are catering to me. I am a costume creator junkie with altitus that has made everything from Duo’s based on costume change emotes to highly detailed and themed Super Groups that only slot IO sets that have an on point name/theme that is synergistic to the hero… dozens of hours painstakingly spent dialing in a concept just right… and though it would be a struggle for even me to come up with a concept that specifically uses a German Shepherd (hey can someone check for me and see if Schutzstaffel is available on pinnacle and hit me back)… there is no way I can justify 500 points for a non-combat non-color-tintable non-spiked collar single breed pet. I keep comparing its price to other “accessories” to try and justify it since I am all about style and swag - but I just keep reeling in awe.

Of course I don’t know, but I would confidently bet unequivocally. The only justification I can come up with for the price point and the severely limiting niche “breed” would be pure market testing. Supply and demand. Milkability. This test wouldn’t have worked as well if they would have released the hounds… er wolf. The wolf actually would fit a wide variety of themes and concepts and is just generally a much “cooler” animal in this and related genre’s. The wolf would have been the no brainer (and as lots of us saw it was all queued up) and will in the end garner the most cash from this advent. But a German Sheppard (with its specific coloration etc) is a very specifically limiting choice in my estimation. If this sells I bet we see 1 or 2 more niche breeds before the wolf. If this doesn’t sell I think we’ll see the wolf much sooner… and then the over-priced non-everything pet idea will fade away into “nice-trydom” – hopefully materializing at some future date into at least summonable ally or at most an MM primary as someone already said. Just my humble. But I fear that supply and demand thing... what will the masses do... they alone have the power.


GSD… so that is what the kids are calling the free-to-players now-a-days?


This was a priceless post. Well done.

Anyway... 500... wow... just wow.

Ape body has been pretty easy to whip up in a few different ways for many moons... but that damn dirty ape head... now THAT's the missing link we're all after.

Holy bi-polar.