Johnny_Butane

Frankly, we don't need more jack of all, master of none sets. There's too many of those now for SS to stand out and none of those has a crash penalty. SS shouldn't have a power with a crash that ONLY brings the set up to par with the other sets that don't have such penalties. If we're to suffer a crash and any kind of penalty for Rage, it should put SS's damage above the sets that don't have those.


Oh. Yay. A long rooting, low DPS Smashing damage attack that can only be triggered on the ground.


Then you can take Hand Clap, which I proposed be switched to Knock Down. With the change I suggested, you can chose to control enemies with Hand Clap OR damage them with Foot Stomp. The suggestion makes BOTH powers desirable instead of Hand Clap being an auto skip and Foot Stomp doing it all.


NO. Just to spite you I'm going to infiltrate the offices of Paragon Studios over the holidays and make these changes to SS and put them in the next patch just to spite you.



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I've never thought the crash was a fair trade off.

Rage merely brings SS up to the level of sets that don't have Rage, yet it forces a penalty and without Rage, SS is pitiful. I don't think that's fair, do you? At the end of the day, SS is not the best ST damage set (something like fourth now IIRC), nor is it one of the best AoE sets. It's also a commonly resisted damage type, so that's another knock against it.

I wouldn't mind SS getting some changes, depending on what they were.

-As an experiment, I'd like to see what would happen if the damage buff Rage gave was changed instead to additional bonus damage like Fiery Embrace.

-Seeing what would happen if Hand Clap was changed to Knock Down and Foot Stomp to Knock Back.

-Hurl getting a damage boost.

-Jab having the Disorient removed in favor of a damage increase.


I don't expect any of these changes to happen, ever, but I wouldn't mind testing them.




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And yet does less damage than a punch from a guy who doesn't have super strength, and can't even knock over a cowboy in blue kevlar PJs.


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Near the end of the book's run there was a big editorial changeover. In short, new bosses came in, axed the books of the writers and artists they didn't like or had a grudge against and brought in new blood, often their friends, to 'retool' most of the books they didn't cancel.

In Young Justice's case, they didn't like Peter David. But they couldn't help but notice the book was doing OK, and it had helped sell them on the idea that a book about teen heroes could make money. Before that, IIRC the Titans book had flopped badly and they had written off teen heroes as being out of fashion.

Then they were approached by Kid's WB about doing a show about young heroes. The WB had wanted the Justice League series to feature some sidekicks, but it went in another direction. Together DC and Kids WB started work on a Teen Titans series and of course DC wanted to relaunch the Teen Titans book to cash in on their end. The decision was made to kill Young Justice to free up the characters so they could go over to Teen Titans since most of the original titans grew up and are no longer teens.

The sad part was, they used the comic bible written for Young Justice as source material for the Titans cartoon. They borrowed heavily from Young Justice's light tone and characterization; the Robin/Impulse/Superboy dynamic that had worked so well in Young Justice became default personalities for Robin, Beast Boy and Cyborg respectively, with Starfire standing in for the naive Secret. Which is partially why their personalities in the cartoon don't really mach up with the comics.

In the end, like you said, the editors didn't really respect any of the continuity or character development after Young Justice was canceled. By the time Graduation Day happened and the new Titans book launched, Geoff Johns had retconned the characters to suit his tastes anyways. In many ways, those characters ended when the YJ book ended.

Her being a doorway between life and death would have made her perfect to bring back for the Blackest Night event, but as far as the current editorial team is concerned, she doesn't exist. She's slated to appear in an episode of the Young Justice cartoon, so maybe that will make something happen in the books.


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Uh, we have a way of knowing because the devs told us. They announced on Massively and at a gathering (I forget which) that an i20 closed beta would be happening before i19. IIRC the devs even told a number of people in the i19 beta test channel that i20 testing was going on concurrently. I wouldn't be surprised if i20 testing was still going on with those testers because there's more that a few forum notables who went dark around when the i20 beta was supposed to have started and are still quieter than usual.

It's no secret a couple of i20 features (notably the new loading screens and some kind of queuing system) bled in and then out of the i19 beta by mistake. It's also no secret there's a new raid coming for the Incarnate content (the BAF compound) which is likely what these testers were testing, among other things.


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I think one of them has PMs turned off.


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I'll say this again: All of these "new" fights/AV/EBs/what have you, be it Trapdoor, Battle Maiden, Boobcat, they're still bags of HP and damage. They're still bloated up to being ridiculously tougher and harder hitting than they should be, but the devs force us to jump through a gimmick hoop on top of that for nothing. They are no less a time sink and they do not even reciprocate in increased rewards proportional to the increased effort required.

If it was an either-or proposition, that would be another story; brute force it and face a typical drawn out moderate-hard EB fight OR find a sneaky trick like dropping the roof on top of him or flooding the chamber with lava. That would actually be kind of cool.

But no, that's not what this is. This guy is roughly a typical EB in terms of power (when there are players, ATs and combos who that is already a tall order for) with the added hassle of the bifurcation schtick. I'm not down with that at all.


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That sometimes happens if you jump the gun before the update completes. It's basically downloading the whole game again from a certain previous date. Cancel it and wait until it says the severs are UP on the status page.

http://www.cityofheroes.com/news/ser...er_status.html



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Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.


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And I plan to keep beating it until the Equine Rapture and beyond if that's what it takes.


Get more sick of it.


You like mashing Taunt over and over and being exploited. Good on you. As far as I'm concerned, people with the attitude you demonstrate allow the marginalization of Tankers to continue.


Perhaps if the developers read a comic or gave a damn about the super hero genre and its sensibilities instead of mindlessly aping outdated fantasy game mechanics and conventions, Tankers wouldn't be a joke.


You're right, 'decoy' is an apt description of Tankers, it isn't very heroic and as currently implemented, neither is the AT. They're overspecialized rodeo clowns with a highly artificial and limited "role" as the team gimp and their reward for this is they get to hit like little girls.


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They're trying to get the rumored new raid at the BAF just right so it optimally craps on our characters as much as possible, especially Tankers.



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I think around issue 15 or 16 they extended the level range of the enemy group so that stuff other that the rock guys can show up at 50. But there aren't actually any missions or zones using them aside from a couple hero Tip missions or player-made AE missions.

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As a dedicated Tanker player, I consider these TFs to be the $%^&ing Antichrist.

I've always maintained that the devs have rendered the Tanker's benefit for the trade-off they make of offense for increased defense to be trivial. Well build Scrappers don't die a lot in most regular content, but they get much more damage.

These TFs demonstrate exactly what I've railed against. The sword bombs don't care if you're a Scrapper or a Tanker, they mostly negate any survivability difference. Both ATs get slaughtered. The same thing extends to the enemies with the massive stacking debuffs. I'm rendered just as squishy, yet, my damage remains as inferior as ever. The devs strip me of my armor, but punish me for having that armor anyways.

To Hell with that.


Being a Taunt bot isn't much of a role in my opinion. That's about all you can meaningfully contribute on the Apex finale as a Tanker. Oh sorry, you can also joust-poke with your T1 to maintain the Bruising debuff. That's sooooo much more fun than actually going toe to toe with the enemy I'm fighting. /sarcasm


I'm offended that they take away my Primary power set by rendering it useless against sword bombs and most of the mobs via stacking debuffs, and then they ALSO take away most of my Secondary by having me not able to attack most of the time because I constantly have to be pulling her out of death puddles instead.


The whole rest of the game I get to watch Scrappers and Brutes charge into spawns, do more damage than me and still not die while I'm constantly punished for my "role" on a team of putting Taunt on cycle and being a distraction that hits like a little girl.


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Wait until the Interface Incarnate slot arrives. Your attacks having -regen or -resistance debuffs would help considerably, as would being level shifted.


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You know how we as Incarnates should deal with being shot at from orbit?

This:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQh26wKS6f8

Heaven forbid we're allowed to be proactive against these attacks and stop them. Nope, we have to react and run around like idiots dodging them.



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Large numbers of people aren't immune to mass stupidity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Mu...water_incident

If thousands of deluded people will gulp down sewage, I'm not surprised there's people on these forums who lap up these foul TFs.



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On the Apex finale we do run, a lot. We're so pathetic compared to Battle Miaden that we have to run and kite like cowards and gang up on her with seven others.


Oh you will, usually while executing a long animating attack or by a nameless mook who's four levels higher than you.



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Striving to overcome things is great. As long as what those things are is suitable to the challenge required. The entire seven member Justice League striving to overcome the Penguin is a little pathetic on the League's part.

We've fought Battle Maiden, Bobcat and Neuron before. We've fought Clockwork before. Hell, they've been soloed before. Them automagically becoming four levels higher than us and in many ways more powerful than the two most powerful guys on primal Earth, for incredibly dubious reasons, isn't cool.

I've taken multiple direct hits from Lord Recluse, a demigod, when he was hooked up to a freaking god machine, but Boobcat's claws two shot me because she got upset?

BULL.


There's little teamwork in Tin Mage beyond "spam heals on tank" and "drag Director 11 into a corner" and "everyone run away from death patches".

None of that feels like a super hero battle from comics and animation to me. It feels like really artificial and contrived mechanics trying to ape WoW and other MMOs and I don't like them one bit.


This kind of change is crap IMO and represents everything I want the game to distance itself from; namely tired MMO conventions, hokey mechanics and demonic spiders.

Go to hell, Tin Mage and Apex. You and all you represent.


There's enough "challenging team content" in the game that almost nobody wants to do already. The Shadow Shard TFs for starters. I don't like that resources were wasted developing those and the new TFs when it's obvious the majority of players prefer stuff like the ITF and the LGTF.


That is an incredibly idiotic notion.


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